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nice unbiased post, although i believe the strength gap is wider than you think, thor's best strength feat barely puts his strength on supermans averagely high end strength feats, i do agree thor hit harder with his hammer though

@thetruthiii: oops might of exaggerated to get my point around, wasn't looking for a formal debate, but let me iron the creases out of my points shall i.

i was wrong, though about the time where cap was fighting loki in germany and iron man came in shooting his beams, turns out it came from his gauntlet, couldn't make out for sure still can't since one of his beams covers his chest when he shoots, he did shoot with his chest beam at thor though, hawkeye's explosives are as effective as any given grenade, that's the best comparison i would say. if i punched someone and made them bleed, and if you cut someone and made them bleed, it doesn't make my punch just as lethal as your knife, cap only took out ground troops, hawkeye took out the small air fleets which where as durable as cars at the very least given that when black widow scraped and hit buildings without it falling apart

thor never did dent his armour with a punch, i meant when he head butted him you can clearly see a dent on his helmet, and when he held starks wrist he was crushing it, and everytime ironman was hit with the hammer i'm pretty sure he was out for 5 seconds minimum, and showed that he was damaged by the hammer by showing his helmets system went all fuzzy and took longer to get up

@those_eyes: lol what can i say? when a movie does justice to one of my favorite story arcs and among my favorite ant-hero/sidekick, i get all lovey dovey

@thetruthiii: i don't think he hurt him at all, the first time he hit him was from his chest piece and loki just surrendered part of his plans, no mark or sign of injury, second time he hit him he just got back up, to be fair he took a while, but this guy has taken exploding arrows to the face, took punches from thor that dented starks armour, was bullet proof, loki is some undercover beast lol

bucky is the weakest (but the most badass) out of the 4, he's more like a lone wolf, and even when he works in teams he doesn't look out for them, but he takes orders really well. if he took orders from cap and tony like he did from pierce he could be a key factor in the team taking loki down

give bucky the shield and they he wins this with cosiderable less problems, i say round 1 iron man, round 2 bucky in a close fight

prime easily without transmutation

darkseid via omega beams, supes is protected from the effects by higher level beings

JLA 10/10

All 4 battles take place in New York

Morals are off.

Fight to Death.

Universes are mixed.

Round 1: Iron Man is wearing HulkBuster Suit. No Prep: Superman- if it's only prepared to overpower someone who has super strength (which fails), iron man gets demolished

Round 2: Both have 1 week prep: Lex luthor is just as smart and has the wealth to have prepped for superman, and has studied him since the day clark showed the world he was superman, lex used kryptonite replulsors, a mech suit couldn't kill him. also batman, kryptonite man, metallo and those opponents where opponents who have stated he holds back against. iron mans best scenario is as stated above by AsgardianXeno929 "Ironman gets his Uru-suit (magically enchanted), implements red sun repulsors, and has the suit constantly emit kryptonite radiation that he amplifies the strength of. Heat vision? Suit absorbs the energy to power the red sun uni-beam" As forSuperman, he would use his prep to sundip for 4 days increasing his powers to incalculable levels, trains to use the power ring, short time yes but supermans thought processing way more faster than hals or iron mans, and creates an admantium/vibranium suit laced with lead (as stated above universes are mixed and if iron man can get his hands on kryptonite, it's just as likely superman can get his hands on adamantium/vibranium ) I mean if this was a real fight, superman wouldn't job against iron man, and use everything he can to kill him, superman has shown a lot of strategic value on the battlefield lately, that's just one way he could win. But this round in general takes speculation to such a high level, feats hardly come into play lol.

Round 3: Both can have a partner. Iron Man's is World Breaker Hulk. Super Man's is Green Lantern (Hal Jordan). No prep: Well BFR seems to be aloud so there's that, and then there's the fact that superman has still higher strength feats and on par striking feats to figth hulk and then there's iron man who turns into a non-factor and then there's green lantern who turns this into an overkill.

Round 4: Iron Man is wearing a specialized suit that makes him just as powerful as superman. The suit is just as fast, just as strong, and is made of antamantium. The question is, who can use the powers wise: Superman. adamantium has to be easy to heat up, boiling tony inside into a turkey, and if somehow i'm forgetting heat doesn't work on adamanium let alone heat that's hotter than the suns core, then still superman because of more experience