@thetruthiii: oops might of exaggerated to get my point around, wasn't looking for a formal debate, but let me iron the creases out of my points shall i.
i was wrong, though about the time where cap was fighting loki in germany and iron man came in shooting his beams, turns out it came from his gauntlet, couldn't make out for sure still can't since one of his beams covers his chest when he shoots, he did shoot with his chest beam at thor though,
Thor's durability is far above Loki's.
hawkeye's explosives are as effective as any given grenade, that's the best comparison i would say. if i punched someone and made them bleed, and if you cut someone and made them bleed, it doesn't make my punch just as lethal as your knife, cap only took out ground troops, hawkeye took out the small air fleets which where as durable as cars at the very least given that when black widow scraped and hit buildings without it falling apart
Nice analogy. However, Loki wasn't exactly unscathed. He got blown right off his hover-scooter and went flying off. Besides, Iron Man has tanked blows from Iron Monger and tank shells, both of which make grenades look harmless.
thor never did dent his armour with a punch, i meant when he head butted him you can clearly see a dent on his helmet, and when he held starks wrist he was crushing it, and everytime ironman was hit with the hammer i'm pretty sure he was out for 5 seconds minimum, and showed that he was damaged by the hammer by showing his helmets system went all fuzzy and took longer to get up
Yes, true. However, Stark was still up and fighting. In fact, Thor's hammer on Cap's shield actually damaged Stark more than Thor's hammer actually did. Besides, Loki wasn't exactly shrugging off hammer strikes, either. In fact, he had trouble with an empty handed Thor.
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