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I kind of had a similar theory back when 700 happened. They didn't actually switch brains, so what constitutes someones mind? It's really just a semantics difference. I actually don't think it would be that clever of them. It will be very impressive to me if someone can come up with a way to redeem this story to me. I don't think it's going to happen.

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I like Miles pretty well, but it's a tough call between him and 2099.

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I liked a lot of it. I wouldn't say the writing was great, but it had some stories that were fun enough that I overlooked the plot holes and leaps of logic. Alpha was terrible and the low point IMO. I liked ends of the earth although again it could have been a lot better. The last few issues dealing with the brain swap weren't as bad as alpha but they were pretty bad IMO. Once I learned that was supposed to be the new status quo I stopped buying. I've read a few issues of superior and followed along with the basic story, but Slott hasn't won me back.

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There are basically 3 versions of Miguel O'Hara/Spider-man 2099.

Original 2099 version, Exiles version, and Timestorm version.

original and Exiles versions both wrapped up their stories, but the exiles version in and of its self was just an alternate version of the original, timestorm had a different origin and everything.

This will likely be a version of the original.

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I've read a few issues, Ock is not a character I find enjoyable. I realize that peter will be back, but I also believe the writers that they intend to keep Ock as Spider-Man for a while so I dont' feel the need to follow a character that I don't like just so in a few years I am up to date with all of the minute details of what Ock screwed up as peter, they will probably conveniently erase half of it anyway or gloss over it anyway. Everybody praises scarlet spider and/or Venom, but Venom particularly has jumped the shark for me. Scarlet spider is ok, but while I love the character of Venom, flash just doesn't do it for me (kind of like Ock). I'm really enjoying Ultimate right now though. It's the only one that I am subscribed to.

I have read a few issues of Superior and followed along with the general storyline by reading summaries of the issues I haven't read. I will buy the issues with O'Hara in them because I am a sucker for 2099, so Slott will get a chance to pull me back in but he's got a tough job ahead of him.

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I'm standing by what I always say about smallville. When its good , it pretty freaking good. When its bad , It pretty franking horrible.

Well said. I got into it about the second or third season and caught up. Then I followed it regularly. Towards the end there were lots of episodes where I was pretty embarassed to be watching the show. I did enjoy guest appearances by other super hero's. It also felt like towards the end they were going to unneccesary lengths to adhere to the "no flights-no tights" rule.

I thought Clark was growing into Superman in the first few seasons, and then growing away from the Superman that we know towards the end. I was glad they brought Michael Rosenbaum back for the finale though. They did enough stupid stories with "clone child lex", and shadowy figure lex, etc.

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There's obvious destruction and collateral casualties everywhere, and this fight is probably like Clark's third in his entire life. And keep in mind he's never fought on this scale of combat before, while Zod's been a warrior his entire life. So at the moment that Zod nearly kills the family, Clark sees that family and finally realizes that not only are people dying, but that Zod cannot be subdued. That if he keeps trying to defeat Zod without killing him, more and more innocent civilians would die. Realizing that he cannot beat Zod fast enough, and that prolonging the fight will only lead to more deaths, Clark finally kills Zod. It's a painful moment for him, and we see his immediate regret after killing the last other member of his race (save for the P-Zone ones) - I thought it was done very well.

I like that explaination. It's not just about the family, but about the lives that would likely be lost if Superman wastes any more time trying to figure out how to stop Zod without killing him.

The destruction of metropolis didn't bother me when I watched the movie, but maybe poeple would have handled it better if they had mentioned that the city had already been mostly evacuated due to the alien threat. On the other hand that would have removed some of the incentive for superman to end the fight before more people got hurt or killed.

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As I said before, the thought never occurred to me, I think you were just expecting something more from that comment. But to me, it was purely metaphorical - a symbol for Kal-El's freedom from the old dying Krypton, and a chance to forge his own destiny. As for Zod being able to fly, I think that was another factor that added to Clark finally choosing to kill him. He realized that this was a man who would not back down, a soldier who was trained to kill and fight. Whereas Clark is still fairly inexperienced at this point.

I can definitely understand that, I would probably be more aware of it if there was a child present.

I think that the atmosphere isn't necessarily what affects Superman. The weak gravity of Earth grants him flight, and the yellow sun radiation grants him strength, speed, x-ray vision, and heat vision. But Zod's ship was simulating the atmosphere of Krypton, and it took Clark a while to adjust to it (which was why he got knocked out). I assume that the ship is shielded from the yellow sun that he needs (it does fly to space, so that would make sense). I'd have to rewatch the film to get a definitive explanation.

I get that about the birth and it being metaphorical. I just think they could have skipped the birth scene and lose virtually nothing from the story.

I think that is what they were going for with Zod's reveal of his ability to fly, but I just didn't feel it when I watched the movie. Also, while I have no personal experience, isn't it funny how easy they make it look in movies to snap someones neck. Having grappled before and found it difficult to move someone's head when they don't want you to, I imagine it is pretty difficult to snap someones neck. Superman seemed to be unable to even turn Zod's head to protect the family from his heat vision and yet he can snap Zod's neck.

Everyone is freaking out about Superman killing Zod, or pointing out that Superman II basically ended with Zod et al dying. I will say that I don't think Superman had to kill Zod. Maybe he could consult with Jor El about how to make a prison that blocked the sun and simulated the atmosphere of Krypton so Zod would basically be depowered. If he does have to kill Zod then I would have preferred a more ambiguous death (like superman 2 falling into the bottomless pit). At least it wasn't a bloody death though.

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Maybe so, but you did mention you expected a payoff from the comment. I agree it was made out to be a statement of significance, but it never occurred to me that it should be anything but an added significance to Superman's birth alone. As for Zod revealing he could fly, I can live with it, in all honesty. The emotional moments were mostly hit rather than miss, but the scenes that hit really hit the mark I thought.

I wasn't overtly-bothered by the language, I can understand the sensitivity if there's a child present, but I didn't think much about it. I took Lois' comment as sort of establishing her characterization as a strong and unafraid reporter. How would you have preferred Clark to kill Zod? I thought that him snapping the neck was actually fairly tame...there have been more brutal deaths in the history of comic-book movies. Goblin being impaled by his own glider, Shaw getting a coin through his head...

I'm not sure about that - is it a solar thing? I didn't really pay attention to the whole atmosphere bit, but I'm sure there are others here who can provide an explanation.

As far as the birth thing I did expect a payoff. The birth scene struck me as odd at first, then they spoke about him being the first natural birth in centuries and I thought "ok they are setting this up as significant so it will come back later in the movie". Besides a few mentions of other Kryptonians being programed I didn't feel like they ever really picked the natural birth free will thing back up.

The advantage I was speaking of is how I would have made the Zod "I can fly" moment more powerful. You make Superman's ability to fly the only advantage that allows him to maintain an even hand with the Kryptonians and then you take that away with the scene described.

Having my son and wife in the theater with me made me much more sensitive to those sorts of things. I probably wouldn't give them a second thought if they aren't with me. There have been more than a few instances where I suggested a movie I have seen and said "oh, I forgot they did that" or had to turn the movie off because it really wasn't appropriate for my son to watch. When I watched it by myself I didn't even notice it, but with him in the room I am extremely aware of any language, sex scenes, or graphic violence.

As far as the atmosphere, Superman's power has always come from the sun previously (and Zor El mentions him drinking in the radiation of the yellow sun and being a god to them), so even in space he didn't need to breath. If he doesn't need to breath how does the atmosphere affect him? Is there a little bit of kryptonite in the air, did the atmosphere comment refer to simulating a red sun on the ship? I don't know the answer but maybe someone can come up with a good explaination.

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I don't know where this idea that it was supposed to be an 'advantage' sprang from. Watching the movie for the first time, I accepted it as a purely symbolic line, I never thought that it was going to come back in the form of some 'advantage' during Superman's fight. The significance wasn't physical, I don't know why many are crowing for something that was never there. It never came across as a major plot point to me, just a change that added a deeper layer to Superman's birth.

Yeah, Jonathan Kent was kinda iffy for me. But that explanation makes his depiction a little easier to swallow.

I don't think it had to be an advantage, and honestly during the movie I didn't sit there and think about Zod revealing he could fly. It just sort of blended in with the action. If it was supposed to be a powerful scene, it missed the mark for me for the reasons I described. I enjoyed the movie and it provided some of the best action of any of the comic book movies so far. I felt like a few of the scenes that were meant to be powerful emotional scenes ( Jonathan's death, Martha's island speech, Laura's death) just didn't strike a cord with me. I did like the "you are my son" scene and the " you think you can threaten my mother scene" though.

Only a few things actually bothered me during the movie. I felt like some of the language was unnecessary (pete cursing at Clark on the bus, and the "comparing d!cks" comment from Lois). I was a little upset with Supes snapping Zod's neck. Not because he killed Zod, but because he snapped his neck. I was glad my son had fallen asleep by then (I have no idea how) and didn't see it. I really enjoyed it though.

There are plenty of nitpicks I can make after the fact though and I am still coming up with them. For instance how can clark "breath" in outer space if the atmosphere of earth is part of his powers and the atmosphere of krypton made him week like a human. What does no atmosphere at all do him?

Also, they addressed it in the movie as Zod saying he didn't want to spend years adjusting to Earth's climate (although he seemed to do pretty well when fighting Superman), but why wouldn't you want to live on a world where you are nearly impervious to damage and have superhuman abilities. How long would you be willing to "suffer" through a different atmosphere if it meant you would have Superman's abilities afterwards. I think I could suffer through a few years of asthma if I became Superman afterwards.

again these are small nitpicks after the fact and had no impact on my viewing enjoyment. I probably wont' see it again in theater, but I will buy it when it comes out and I'm excited about a JL movie.