Superman VS Smallville

#1 Posted by Nick-SV(ril) (571 posts) - - Show Bio

Just saw that on cracked.com , and I lol'd 
 

#2 Posted by johnny_spam (2035 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah they blast the show pretty bad on that feature not that they are wrong really. 

#3 Posted by Dracade102 (8167 posts) - - Show Bio

This Thread Deserves an A+
#4 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21878 posts) - - Show Bio

true, but i still like smallville

#5 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Smallville did a good job of attracting millions of viewers (mostly teens and adults) for about 10 years so it was doing many things right. no tights, no flight and no code name were quite useful for a teen drama show.

#6 Edited by deaditegonzo (3686 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont like Smallville, at all, but that chart is a little inaccurate to be fair.

#7 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Smallville tv was pretty faithful to the John Byrne reboot same as the earlier Teri Hatcher Lois show. John Byrne reboot had a young Clark Kent in Smallville with no costume, no code name which was followed by Smallville tv. Kryptonite giving super powers is not far fetched since many super heroes and villains in dc/marvel got powers from radiation. Earth 3 Ultraman got powers from kryptonite. The radio show Atoman also got super powers from kryptonite. I did not like Clark looking dumb/constipated every time he stumbled upon kryptonite which was very plentiful in the smallville tv show. I wished the smallville tv show had no silly kryptonite weakness.

#8 Edited by Zardu (345 posts) - - Show Bio

Smallville started interesting and would have had a lot of potential. Unfortunately, the potential has not been used. In my opinion, Smallville attracting millions of teens. That is the reason why strange scenes were seen: liaisons, frustration, conflicts with parents, school, etc; the usual teenager stuff. Clear that it couldn´t be a masterpiece. I do not want to be misunderstood: these things belong to a normal life. But it depends on how they are staged. In Smallville they were filmed for a specific target audience.

#9 Posted by Z3RO180 (6558 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm standing by what I always say about smallville. When its good , it pretty freaking good. When its bad , It pretty franking horrible.

#10 Posted by consolemaster001 (5604 posts) - - Show Bio

TRUTH

#11 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Smallville was enjoyable and it helped boost popularity in Superman for a time, even if it didn't lead people to read Superman comics.

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#12 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Smallville was enjoyable and it helped boost popularity in Superman for a time, even if it didn't lead people to read Superman comics.

Enjoyable to a point. Other than that though, I agree.

#13 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees: Well yeah, it became a little ridiculous at times, either with the drama or completely screwing with continuity as we know it, but it was an alternate time-line so I could handle it.

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#14 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees: Well yeah, it became a little ridiculous at times, either with the drama or completely screwing with continuity as we know it, but it was an alternate time-line so I could handle it.

Mostly I was referring to the drama and the fact that the ending was one of the biggest cop-outs I've ever seen in a series finale (nay, THE BIGGEST I've ever seen, but then again, I don't watch a lot of live action stuff). I didn't REALLY have a problem with the whole alternate continuity thing, just that Batman, WW, and Shazam never appeared.

#15 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio


Mostly I was referring to the drama and the fact that the ending was one of the biggest cop-outs I've ever seen in a series finale (nay, THE BIGGEST I've ever seen, but then again, I don't watch a lot of live action stuff). I didn't REALLY have a problem with the whole alternate continuity thing, just that Batman, WW, and Shazam never appeared.

Haha, a lot of people were bummed out that Welling never appeared in the actual Superman suit and cheated his way out using CGI. As for the more popular characters such as Batman appearing, he couldn't due to the chance of it interfering with his live action films, or some corporate stuff like that :/

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#16 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees said:

Mostly I was referring to the drama and the fact that the ending was one of the biggest cop-outs I've ever seen in a series finale (nay, THE BIGGEST I've ever seen, but then again, I don't watch a lot of live action stuff). I didn't REALLY have a problem with the whole alternate continuity thing, just that Batman, WW, and Shazam never appeared.

Haha, a lot of people were bummed out that Welling never appeared in the actual Superman suit and cheated his way out using CGI. As for the more popular characters such as Batman appearing, he couldn't due to the chance of it interfering with his live action films, or some corporate stuff like that :/

Isn't that the same utter LOAD of BS that caused the Bat-Embargo (I.E., the lack of use for Batman Rogues) in Justice League? The hell kind of logic is that!?

Also: fuck Nolan and Christian Bale HARD when it comes to their views on animation and animation involving super heroes. Fuck. Them. SILLY!

#17 Edited by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't that the same utter LOAD of BS that caused the Bat-Embargo (I.E., the lack of use for Batman Rogues) in Justice League? The hell kind of logic is that!?

Also: fuck Nolan and Christian Bale HARD when it comes to their views on animation and animation involving super heroes. Fuck. Them. SILLY!

Watch the language mate!

And honestly, I'm not sure! Just that something with rights with these dudes made it so that the other dudes couldn't get this character on the show. Blah, blah, blah.

:P

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#18 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3519 posts) - - Show Bio

Chart's dumb. So they took some creative license with the show. So what?

#19 Posted by consolemaster001 (5604 posts) - - Show Bio

"Tied the knot with some chick in vegas" lol

#20 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

"Tied the knot with some chick in vegas" lol

To be fair though, that's out of context and in the episode, he was affected by red k or something like that, I think.

#21 Posted by consolemaster001 (5604 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001 said:

"Tied the knot with some chick in vegas" lol

To be fair though, that's out of context and in the episode, he was affected by red k or something like that, I think.

So he was roofied and tricked into marriage ?

#22 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees said:

@consolemaster001 said:

"Tied the knot with some chick in vegas" lol

To be fair though, that's out of context and in the episode, he was affected by red k or something like that, I think.

So he was roofied and tricked into marriage ?

Not roofied...since no one did that to him...

I think he was wearing a class ring made out of red k which makes him either crazy and/or causes his inhibitions to slip and that's how that craziness happened if I remember right.

#23 Posted by consolemaster001 (5604 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001 said:

@hewhosees said:

@consolemaster001 said:

"Tied the knot with some chick in vegas" lol

To be fair though, that's out of context and in the episode, he was affected by red k or something like that, I think.

So he was roofied and tricked into marriage ?

Not roofied...since no one did that to him...

I think he was wearing a class ring made out of red k which makes him either crazy and/or causes his inhibitions to slip and that's how that craziness happened if I remember right.

I get what you mean. That was a joke.

#24 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, this is kind of hugely stupid.

#25 Edited by ltbrd (562 posts) - - Show Bio

The problem I had with Smallville.....besides the teenage slant which I'm glad Arrow isn't following as strictly.....was that it never really seemed to have a direction following season 2/half-way through season 3. It was as if the writers simply didn't know what to do with the show after the initial premise and set-up and it clearly showed in seasons 3-6 with a general lack of forward momentum and constant changing of character portrayals/motivation (should have just left Lionel as an evil d*&! and been done with it). Just my opinion obviously but I think if they had a) not introduced Lois in s4; b) not made Lois completely unlikeable for 5+ seasons and then all of a sudden put Clark and Lois together; c) let Clark leave Smallville and travel the world at the end of s4 like he does in every origin story and pick the show up in Metropolis two or three years later, introducing Lois then who calls him "Smallville" and thus keeping the name of the show intact rather than some suggestions of calling it Metropolis; d) removed Lana as a focus.....seriously, the woman can not act and eventually giving her superpowers was a sin. Maybe that would have allowed the writers to keep the momentum of the show going rather than some very bad, painfully trudging seasons before the proto-justice league began kicking off (and even then it didn't save the show from slow story development).

But the list comparision definitely is a bit more biased than the comparisions really could be......and I don't really knock Smallville for the Jor-El push of his son actually using his powers because its a concept that came out of Superman: The Movie and nobody had a problem with it then, its just that Smallville made a very simple change complicated by writing a Clark that was constantly at odds with his father when he was doing near exactly what Jor-El wanted him to anyways. Which is why I always thought Jor-El's more "abusive" inclinations should have simply stayed as tests to see what kind of person Clark had become rather than been portrayed as his personality and mindset in his final years. That way tests could have been passed in the first four seasons and the show moved on from the creepy voice in the sky character that was given waaaaaaaaaay too much power for its concept.

#26 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3519 posts) - - Show Bio

Once you accepted Smallville as an "elseworlds" story, it was a lot more enjoyable. It was a new take on the mythos. Sure, you had to deal with the teen drama/nighttime soap opera aspects of it, and maybe it was drawn out a bit too long, but overall it was a good show.

#27 Edited by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

superspeed for the win. couldve renamed it flash with ocassionally really bad red-eye.

#28 Posted by PowerWoman (3380 posts) - - Show Bio

I just love kara,orz

#29 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait... Smallville was supposed to be a Superman series all along? All this time I thought it was a cheap unfunny parody! Nyahahahahahahaha!

#30 Posted by PCN24454 (454 posts) - - Show Bio

Even the official continuity is inconsistent

Superman's original archenemy was Ultra-Humanite

#31 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

In one episode during the Zod season, they had black costume Clark doing matrix kung fu with fighting sticks like Nightwing. I miss matrix Smallville.

#32 Edited by boogiesteven007 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

smallville season 10

ive just heard that Clark has s symbol on his jacket would give him later in life that he superman to everyone he knew as young adult and they mite reveal his secret, so having an S symbol on his jacket is bad idea, hello secret identity suppose remain a secret not revealing his secret that he is superman to friend or foe

#33 Posted by boogiesteven007 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

cineworld do crazy things to celebrate during the weekend release of the movie man of steel, all the staff whore costumes of superman

#34 Posted by w0nd (3426 posts) - - Show Bio

smallville season 10

ive just heard that Clark has s symbol on his jacket would give him later in life that he superman to everyone he knew as young adult and they mite reveal his secret, so having an S symbol on his jacket is bad idea, hello secret identity suppose remain a secret not revealing his secret that he is superman to friend or foe

he was always moving to fast for anyone to see him....that's why he was called the blur for a short period of time, because when he acted no one could see him. Only people who did were the leauge members, give or take a few civilians for the episode purposes. He pretty muchwore the jacket because he got tired of wearing his dark trenchcoat, needed something "brighter" and friendlier i guess.

#35 Posted by Durakken (1593 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget said:

@hewhosees said:

Mostly I was referring to the drama and the fact that the ending was one of the biggest cop-outs I've ever seen in a series finale (nay, THE BIGGEST I've ever seen, but then again, I don't watch a lot of live action stuff). I didn't REALLY have a problem with the whole alternate continuity thing, just that Batman, WW, and Shazam never appeared.

Haha, a lot of people were bummed out that Welling never appeared in the actual Superman suit and cheated his way out using CGI. As for the more popular characters such as Batman appearing, he couldn't due to the chance of it interfering with his live action films, or some corporate stuff like that :/

Isn't that the same utter LOAD of BS that caused the Bat-Embargo (I.E., the lack of use for Batman Rogues) in Justice League? The hell kind of logic is that!?

Bruce Wayne did appear in Smallville...sorta. The character was introduced under a different name and it was supposed to be revealed eventually that he was Bruce, but then WB enforced their weird rule of having characters only in one media form at a time and so that plan was scrapped and the character was revealed to be working as a spy for Lex and then killed.

@ltbrd: Erca Durance is awesome, and her Lois was awesome

As far as the losing direction after the first 4 seasons... yeah. They didn't plan to go 10 years and they had their hands tied by various things over the year. It's hard to progress pass the initial premise when you're not allowed to go towards where the character should be going and where you were planning to go from the beginning. Those who like the series tend to feel that years 5-7 were the worst and it's because of this reason. It was also during this period or right around the end of this period when several key people were changed so that's why season 8-10 was different.

Also... that graphic should have listed "made super sonic sex causing earthquakes with a future super model" ^.^

#36 Edited by symbiotic (48 posts) - - Show Bio

@z3ro180 said:

I'm standing by what I always say about smallville. When its good , it pretty freaking good. When its bad , It pretty franking horrible.

Well said. I got into it about the second or third season and caught up. Then I followed it regularly. Towards the end there were lots of episodes where I was pretty embarassed to be watching the show. I did enjoy guest appearances by other super hero's. It also felt like towards the end they were going to unneccesary lengths to adhere to the "no flights-no tights" rule.

I thought Clark was growing into Superman in the first few seasons, and then growing away from the Superman that we know towards the end. I was glad they brought Michael Rosenbaum back for the finale though. They did enough stupid stories with "clone child lex", and shadowy figure lex, etc.

#37 Edited by drgnx (3564 posts) - - Show Bio

To be fair, I loved that he regularly utilized his speed in smallville, even if that is all he seemed to have... It was like watching The Flash morph into Superman, kinda fits when you consider they kept calling him "the blur"!

#38 Edited by TJSH96 (875 posts) - - Show Bio

Smallville is the best thing ever created by mankind in my opinion. Everything stated in that chart is just someone's opinion, nothing more. I think Smallville is the best thing ever created by mankind, the person who wrote the chart doesn't.

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