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#1  Edited By Symbiocide

@VenomousDragon: For me, I rather see Eddie being treated like a dog than not see him at all.

That would be horrible (for me) to have him still be Anti-Venom, and then never actually see him do anything thing. People complained about how the original Toxin just upped and disappeared and was never given any stories. I'd rather see Eddie go through hell and back than to have him disappear from comic books for 5 years (Toxin) or 10 years (Scream, Hybrid). I just rather see him in some capacity even as Toxin than to have him all happy, fine and dandy as Anti-Venom, but off-screen and never, ever used all the time.

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#2  Edited By Symbiocide

@hectorsquall:

Well, you already know the gist of what I think (I posted on your blog). Its cool that you feel as strongly against the direction and handling of Eddie Brock, as much as I feel strongly for this series of events for Eddie Brock.

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I agree with Circle of Four being a waste. And I agree tremendously on Patrick Mulligan's fate. I would have rather Pat's fate had been left open. Eddie isn't going to stay Toxin forever; he'll either eventually go back to being Venom after a long series of character-status-quo changes, or he'll get yet another symbiote, or he'll just lost Toxin. Pat could have been spared. I would have liked to see the original Toxin somewhere down the road, or at LEAST kill him in an actual comic, where we can read and see it. Well, since it didn't happen in any comicbook form, and was explained to us off-the-table, I wouldn't argue continuity if Pat was brought back...off-panel, non-written deaths don't count. Vague deaths that happen and are alluded to IN A COMIC (like a character his crushed by flaming falling debris, but no one is able to retrieve the body, suggesting that maybe they survived and scuttled off somewhere off-panel)...THAT counts. Just saying "Oh, Debra Whitman? Killed herself...didn't take place in any issue...I just declared it"...that can be easily ignored. I can't quite agree with your feelings towards Eddie as Toxin. There's no telling what hell the Toxin symbiote suffered while Blackheart had it. It could have greatly changed for the worse, forgetting all the positive life-lessons Pat taught it, being forced to turn violent and angry. And since Venom DID try to kill it (twice...back when Eddie was still Venom and in Flash's Venom book), it would naturally regress to a vicious state. That's believable. And Eddie has no control of what he's doing as Toxin, so seeing Eddie regress from being something decent to something crazy again isn't his fault.

Well, I'm not trying to force you to agree with me, just throwing out my thoughts. We do agree on everything else.

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#4  Edited By Symbiocide

I'm thinking Ultimate. Won't we be neck-deep in Ends of the Earth in 616 by July?

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#5  Edited By Symbiocide

Must be some rule in the universe where every single Spider-Man game has to have a symbiote character and Rhino as a boss all the f........ time!

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Its amazing how Doctor Doom can isolate the part of Hulk's mind that controls transformations and clone a new body for Banner, yet no one in the Marvel universe knew how to save an old lady from a bullet injury except the Devil.

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#7  Edited By Symbiocide
The best physique. Muscularly big, but not HULK big.
The best physique. Muscularly big, but not HULK big.
Venom should NEVER exceed these proportions.
Venom should NEVER exceed these proportions.
 
Same goes for Anti-Venom
Same goes for Anti-Venom
See? Compared to Spider-Man, Eddie's frame is more intimidating without being dumbnormous.
See? Compared to Spider-Man, Eddie's frame is more intimidating without being dumbnormous.
 
    
Ridiculously huge. Failure.
Ridiculously huge. Failure.
Giant Venom doesn't work.
Giant Venom doesn't work.
Worst Venom ever. Stupid.
Worst Venom ever. Stupid.
Too damn scrawny. Hardly Venom.
Too damn scrawny. Hardly Venom.
 
Too lean, too lanky. What the...?
Too lean, too lanky. What the...?
   
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Eddie should always be a guy with a permenant chip on his shoulder. He doesn't need to be a villain exactly; I mean really, obsessing over Spider-Man will get old if it hasn't yet. Eddie believes himself to be destined to do good things. Having him swing around the city gleefully trying to be a good hero is funny for some and very entertaining for others, but also comes off idiotic to others. I personally prefer an Anti-Venom or a Eddie as Venom character who isn't even trying to be a hero. He's just a pissed off guy looking for an excuse to rip someone. 
 
I remember in Venom: The Hunger how out of pure spite, not because he was trying to be a defender, just out of spite, Eddie wlaks into a biker bar and purposely starts a fight with a bike gang so he had an "excuse" to kill them all when they attacked him. This is how I would write Eddie Brock, Anti-Venom or Venom. He still regards innocents just enough to never target them, but he has no intention of going out on patrol just to save people. Instead, he'd go out to find "bad guys" just so he has a reason to spill some blood. In theory, this would be him keeping the streets "safe", but also this would keep him different from Punisher. Frank does it for a reason. He intentionally wants to save innocent lives by killing the criminals. Eddie just does it for sh?ts and giggles. Like Cody from Street Fighter/Final Fight. 
 
This will keep Eddie at odds with Spider-Man. While he may stop pursuing Spider-Man as a villain, Spidey would never let Eddie go on doing what he's been doing, so the two will have many chances to still cross paths and come to deadly blows. That way we keep the antagonistic relationship of the two with Eddie going back to just being the same old "We hate Spider-Man" crap. And when they do need to work together, they can since, while their styles and reasonings are polar opposites, they are still on the same side. 
 
The only thing I really wish of Anti-Venom, though, is that they go back to having Eddie communicate with his symbiote. He never refers to himself as we or us anymore. He never talks with his symbiote or argues with it. Its just so lifeless...All the other symbiotes still have this dynamic of a human host talking with their symbiotes., Toxin, Scorn, Gargan and Flash Venom, even Carnage now, and Carnage (except for maybe once) NEVER referred to themselves in the plural. I miss Eddie having a costume that was in a small part its own character. There's no dynamic of Anti-Venom being two characters co-existing as one. That was a huge appeal to me with Venom in the first place.
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What I don't understand is why did he ever undergo a cat's appearance? His powers are very simian. He bounces off ways and graps things with his feet. Like a monkey. So it made sense that his 1st mutation had him looking like a man-ape even before the blue fur. I've never seen feline characters or cats in general swinging from poles and grabbing things with their feet. The feline appearance clashes with the ape-attributes.

 

Regarding the Beast/Mystique love, I don't care. Seriously, this movie will have as little connection to the original comics as they will to the X-Men's films before.    

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#10  Edited By Symbiocide


Something else we wont see in THOR movie?

 

Donald Blake, perhaps?