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#1 Posted by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensentry: Wikis' can be edited by everyone eh? who exactly made that cost of being Batman and Iron Man ? and it's only relevant to the movies in which case Bruce stomps,Baleman was far more responsible than RDJ Stark.

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@citizensentry said:

  • Intelligenge: Batman vs. Iron Man
  • Wealth: Bruce Wayne vs. Tony Stark
  • Combat Skills: Batman vs. Iron Man
  • Strength: Batman vs. Iron Man
  • Speed: Batman vs. Iron Man
  • Versatility: Batman vs. Iron Man
  • Friends: Batman vs. Iron Man

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#2 Posted by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

HAHAHA, Superman fans are having nightmares,maybe this will make up for the expected garbage Earth One sequel coming shortly. You just cant kill BatGod or Miller,there's gonna be lots of bleeding now.

On a serious note,I'm more excited for Miller's contribution than Azz's, Azz's Batman work hasn't impressed meTBH,I loved the Knight of Vengeance story but Joker was rubbish and Broken City was bleh.

#3 Posted by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

I like it

Same here,I'll never understand CB fans,they complained about Heath not being comic booky,bleachy or over the top crazy,we finally get something like that AND THEY'RE STILL complaining.

The only thing that bothers me is that they're basing this Batman world on Millers work too much,though I can see a hint of Morrison/Daniels RIP Joker as well. They're plenty of other great Batman writers and stories out there as well,I wish they'd use them as a template too.

#4 Edited by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

@vivide said:

@black_arrow:

This is true but maybe he has a cooling system they can always invent something to make Batman survive.

also, even if the joints can spin 360 degrees the human limbs cannot.

I am just curious on how the writers can do this without looking stupid.

@vivide said:

@black_arrow: Depends on the solar charge, even Zod's and Nam-Ek's kryptonian stuff can be broken.

Don't forget the meat-in-the-machine issue, the shell is hard but the innards are squishy. Batfleck is a Lobster waiting to be boiled.

Was Cap America squished when his shield withstood the brunt of an RPG? or even better the Mjlonir? does Iron Man get squished when he fights his baddies? the purpose of an armor is to provide protection across the board,the armor protects Batman from everything Superman throws at him,that's why he's wearing it and standing in front of him,the screen writers are more aware of the limits of Superman's powers and Batmans abilities(we haven't even seen what he's capable of and some people are already crying PIS) than you or I,it's up to them to decide what works or what doesn't stop nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.

#5 Posted by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

TDKR has been adapted in to 2 animated movies,an episode of BTAS,a loose adaptation in the "Batman" cartoon, it had considerable influence on The Dark Knight Rises and obviously on the upcoming Batman v Superman movie. There MUST BE SOMETHING great about it.

Hipsters just refuse to see it.

#6 Posted by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

A piece of me died with him. I will no longer be watching the DCCU.

Oh please,he's getting his own tv show and Batman's character development will always trump every other character in the Batman mythology save Joker.

#7 Posted by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

@anjales said:

@rogueshadow: I re-read the issue last night, and Slade himself even dismissed the notion of having a "weaker" body (which doesn't make sense since in the story he became younger, not weaker, only his appearance changed, not skill). As Batman was kicking him around, Slade mentions at first that it's because of what I-Ching did to him, but then he blamed his "poor" performance on his new eye because his new mask was modified with a black tint. And while I admit that this may definitely affect his performance in some form, it's nowhere near as bad as Slade made it out to be. As we saw in his fight with Bronze Tiger (a top tier martial artist), which he ended in a couple of panels, all he needed to do was close his eye and he gets the job done. Later on in his fight with Batman, Slade mentions that he's a millisecond off, and because of this Batman is beating him or else he would have ended the fight in "three moves tops". I'm sorry but that was exaggerated. "I'm fighting like an amateur!". No, Batman was making him look like an amateur because he was outclassing him, and instead of admitting being out-skilled, Slade blamed his eye. He honestly came off as extremely petty. Ironically, in the next issue, which takes like a few hours max after the fight, Slade mentions how he got used to his new eye, which kind of nullifies the "my new eye makes me weak" argument.

@entropy_aegis said:

Yeah I'm mad, Bane is Croc's superior,he's stronger,smarter,faster,more skilled, I'm not gonna bother debating about Bane's skill level,but in every single incarnation Bane has been Croc's superior.

Every ounce of logic indicates a victory in favor of Bane,unless the writer had a hard on for Croc which in this case is fairly true as Tim Seeley IS a Croc fan and the only writer in Eternal who even bothered to use Croc, Croc was complaining about losing to Bane in the very first issue of Eternal he was introduced in,and more than the loss itself it's the circumstances and implications that bother me. The whole fight had no worth,other than "HAHA I finally beat you Bane"

So by your logic, there are no upsets. The underdog never wins. Croc won via using his head and Bane underestimating him. Honestly, I would love to see you make the argument for Bane's skill, the skill that he's never used to win any major encounters (including his previous victories over Croc, which required no skill whatsoever, but by simply being a brute, which Bane is). Could use some laughs.

He is Croc's superior but he lost. It happens. Just because Seeley is a big Croc fan doesn't mean that the victory was unearned. It was written in a way that makes the reader sympathetic with Croc, and done in a convincing manner without downplaying anyone. Again just crybaby fans whining over their favorite fictional character losing a fictional fight. How original. FYI, Croc's loss to Bane was mentioned twice max, and one of them was someone else poking fun at Croc. I already demonstrated in my previous comment how despite Bane outclassing Croc in skill, Croc's victory still worked.

As for the implications, well Croc was simply being separated from the rest of the Arkham crowd, and at the time, Etenal was going through "filler" mode. Croc defeating Bane allowed him to be more credible to separate himself from the other rogues and join up with Selena. Having him getting punked by Bane again and attempting to join Selina wouldn't have made him credible. The victory made Croc credible enough to be grouped with the other villains who were going to be fed to Batman sooner or later. So yes, there were implications. And BTW, Bane getting beat isn't very earth-shattering, and so shouldn't be treated as such.

If all you're going to reply with is hate-filled rants and complaining over writers, without using an ounce of ACTUAL logic, then just don't bother.

Croc won because the writer wanted him to win for no other reason other than to prop him up and while every character has this happen to him once a while in this case it had no purpose other than to give Croc 2 seconds of respect in a forgettable filler issue which no writer is gonna even bother to acknowledge. Snyder didn't in Endgame and Pak sure as hell didn't in his annual, Bane>>>>>>Croc that's the consensus even among the writers themselves,only ONE writer chose to have Croc win,said writer was the only one who even bothered to use Croc in the story and since Eternal wasn't even a major Croc story jobbing Bane has no long lasting impact.

I love how you refuse to even acknowledge the fallacy of your own arguments, Croc won cause he used his head you say? but the character with intelligence AS PART OF HIS ACTUAL SKILL SET didn't use his head, how is that not BS? and Bane doesn't underestimate anyone, that again is out of character for him.

There were no implications,it was filler mediocrity, Croc didn't even make it to the Catwoman book and his story was connected to hers, his story is exclusive to Eternal and only one writer within Eternal who loves him too much. No one is going to look at Eternal and say ZOMG what a big Croc story,his victory amounts to nothing.

And Bane is skilled(Pre-52) you dont beat Nightwing,Azrael,King Snake etc without venom and not have high degree of skill,most of his showings in the pre-52 continuity were without venom,how exactly do you think he survived and won without venom may I ask? laugh all you want,you'll only end up making yourself look foolish.

Bane would easily be in the top 10 h2h fighters in the pre-52 continuity,dont believe me just ask k4tz

#8 Posted by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@black_arrow said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

@black_arrow: I'd say he'll be pretty on par with Arkham Batman if they keep this up. But then again Batman did knock him out with his hands in the New 52 a couple of times, so I doubt they will keep it consistent with this instance.

Well Killer Croc already beat Bane with Venom. So he being that powerful in New 52 has already been saw. Also Batman can beat Bane Hand to Hand even if Bane is pumped up with Venom.

Bane has beaten Croc twice in the New-52 and was ordering him around even in this annual,the Batman Eternal fight was just BS,the writer has a huge crush on Croc and deliberately jobbed Bane to make Croc look good.

and Batman is Batman,he's more powerful than ever,he dominated Deathstroke and even hung with Lincoln March in spite of all his injuries and fatigue.

Batman didn't dominate Deathstroke, the fight was pretty even and Deathstroke was severely handicapped due to his physicals being depleted, which threw him off his game since he wasn't used to his body, as well as his fighting style and depth perception being fudged up by having both eyes, which he isn't used to.

Batman dominated most of the fight,Slade only got a few blows at the end. Physicals being depleted? LOL wut where did you get that from? he said something about his eye which doesn't even make sense since he was wearing his old mask. It's clear Deathstroke was just unwilling to accept someone could fight him so well.

@anjales said:

@rogueshadow said:

Batman didn't dominate Deathstroke, the fight was pretty even and Deathstroke was severely handicapped due to his physicals being depleted, which threw him off his game since he wasn't used to his body, as well as his fighting style and depth perception being fudged up by having both eyes, which he isn't used to.

No offense, but that's just isn't true. You have to realize that the stuff you mentioned were all from Slade's POV, and one thing that is clear in this Tony Daniel written book, is that Deathstroke highly values his abilities and so is not satisfied unless he is 100% dominating his opponent. Anything less then that, and according to Slade, he's not fighting well and something's wrong. This was proven in his domination of the 100+soldiers (second fight, after his transformation) and the fight with Bronze Tiger, which he completely dominated, and even then, Slade mentioned that he was off his game. This is pride talking, not physicals. And even when he had his suit on, the mask already covered his formerly missing eye so that should, more or less, compensate. So as far as the fight with Batman goes, Slade was at 100%, but the fact that Batman was kicking his ass was too much for his pride to handle. Read his monolgue again, Slade came off as extremely petty, and almost childish. And notice in the end, when Slade was talking about how he had Batman on the ropes, visually you could see that Bats still had a lot of fight left in him and the battle was far from over (until the explosion of course). With that said, I agree with you, while Batman did have some dominating moments, the fight was far from a stomp, and it was mostly evenly matched.

@entropy_aegis:

Bane has beaten Croc twice in the New-52 and was ordering him around even in this annual,the Batman Etenal fight was just BS,the writer has a huge crush on Croc and deliberately jobbed Bane to make Croc look good.

I don't mean to sound rude, but you sound too much like a bitter Bane fan who is mad he lost to Croc, a known jobber, so it's kinda hard to put too much weight into your "argument". First and foremost, I agree with you that Bane is more "skilled" than Croc (something that was made clear in that fight), and yes I agree with you that the fight was written to make Croc look good. However, the Croc written in that fight wasn't the same mindless monster that usually gets punked by Bane. This Croc had a purpose, was still holding a grudge after his previous defeat by Bane, and so was extra motivated, especially after losing someone he cared about in previous issues. This Croc was more ambitious and so, this was a Croc that actually decided to use his head for once and took advantage of the fact that Bane was underestimating him. Remember, Bane was actually dominating the fight, had Croc on the ropes and was about to finish him off, but he was also boasting about his superiority over Croc (something well in line with Bane's arrogant character so it's not plot induced). These brief moments allowed the extra motivated Croc to cut off Bane's tubes thereby weakening Bane (something that is also in line with the character). However, as Bane stated, while the move did weaken him, he is still capable overcoming it. This is where Croc, again using his head, instead of trying to slug it out with Bane ( a fight Bane probably expected and would have probably won even in his weakened state), decided to drain Bane's blood, and so started slashing away at Bane. Contrary to what you might believe, Croc did not demonstrate any skill here, that was pure savagery, but it wasn't mindless, it actually had a purpose, and so he slashed several of Bane's body parts, and therefore ended up incapacitating Bane in decisive fashion. So no, this fight wasn't "just BS because the writer has a huge crush on Croc and delibaretly jobbed Bane to make Croc look good", the writer may have "a crush" on Bane, but all that made do is write a logical and well written battle that took advantage of existing plot threads to craft a satisfying and logical battle outcome.

I felt like the only people who didn't like the fight are people who put too much stock in Bane's supposed skill. I hate to break it to you, but Bane, while he is a skilled fighter and excellent tactician, is mostly more of a brute than a disciplined martial artist, and it is mostly that brutality which has won him his fights, in both New and Pre-52 (including his fights with Croc). Not denying the fact that he has a degree of skills, but when compared with the likes of Batman, Lady Shiva, Ra's Al Ghul, Matt Murdock etc.. as in people with exceptional skill, he simply pales. The reason he gives Batman a worthy fight isn't because he matches him in skill, but because he has advantage over him in strength and brutality + some decent skills, but Batman still beats him in a fair fight. For proof, see their fights from Legacy (close but decisive win for Batman), No Man's Land (no decisive winner, but Batman was clearly winning until Bane used an explosion to retreat), FE Aftermath (close but decisive win for Batman where he actually matched Bane's brutality to a certain extent).

Yeah I'm mad, Bane is Croc's superior,he's stronger,smarter,faster,more skilled, I'm not gonna bother debating about Bane's skill level,but in every single incarnation Bane has been Croc's superior.

Every ounce of logic indicates a victory in favor of Bane,unless the writer had a hard on for Croc which in this case is fairly true as Tim Seeley IS a Croc fan and the only writer in Eternal who even bothered to use Croc, Croc was complaining about losing to Bane in the very first issue of Eternal he was introduced in,and more than the loss itself it's the circumstances and implications that bother me. The whole fight had no worth,other than "HAHA I finally beat you Bane"

#9 Posted by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason. Kori's alien space ship combined with Roy's tech wins.

It's Deathstroke vs Jason not Deathstroke vs Roy and Kori, if we're gonna use your logic then Deathstroke just brings the entire Secret Society.

#10 Edited by entropy_aegis (15980 posts) - - Show Bio

@bjm316: I don't have a beef with the Bat. My original post was asking the OP why does he feel the need to single out Batman when there are other characters doing exactly what Batman does.

The OP has these urges to create Batman threads once in a few days,he's probably made more threads complaining about Batman than I've made in these forums.