This is a question better reserved for Superman fans,most of them I'm sure think DS and Superman are equals. Atleast Batman didn't deflect the OE with a rock.
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@entropy_aegis: You can't compare Batman fighting Darkseid to Superman fighting Darkseid.
Yes, Batman is a genius at everything he does and knows every martial art on the planet.
That's cool, but it doesn't compare to strength, speed, and versatility that Superman bring to the table.
Superman vs. Darkseid is a fight that could easily go either way, because Superman is a being that can conceivably hold his own against Darkseid. Batman shouldn't be in that weight class.
But he's the man at DC. It's his 75th, he makes the money, he survives 9/10 when every other hero falls. It's expected. I'm just saying, Superman vs. Darkseid can't be compared to Darkseid vs. Batman.
Yeah thanks for proving my point. Darkseid vs Superman is absolutely as much a mismatch as Batman vs Superman. When you're operating on Darkseid's level then to you Batman is a mosquito and Superman is a Scorpion,you can squish both in an instant. The Batman vs DS fight could have had more naunce and depth to it but as a Darkseid fan it left me much more satisfied than his encounters with Superman.
DS can and should easily crush Superman,if Superman can handle DS then so can Lex,Toyman etc and by extension so can Batman. Simply put both fights are mismatches,Darkseid should be a cosmic powerhouse,not Superman's punching bag.
@jack_donaghy: The real cause of resentment is Batman doing it ALONE, if Superman was there kicking the crap out of DS then I guarantee you the reactions would have been different. Having read every encounter DS has had with Superman,I can safely say this was far more respectful than the treatment he is meted out with by Supes writers.
I feel ACs plot is massively overrated,I also feel Rocksteady dosn't really get Batman's side characters and villains beyond the surface,still overall as games they're perfectly rated and deserve the praise they get.
At this point I'm convinced that people just see/read what they want, looking at some of the posts you'd think Batman slapped around DS in his standard gear. The fight wasn't perfect,but it was by far more respectful to Darkseid than any Superman related encounter.
Batman uber armor that was created by the JL was effortlessly trashed by Darkseid,Batman's punches had ZERO effect, the only attack that did do some damage( and by damage I mean make DS lose his balance,cause he was fine with in the very next page) was the chaos shard charged OE. A weapon that belonged to DS himself,capable of busting planets and further charged by Darkseid's own signature power and he virtually shrugged it off.
Power wise this was in line with what has been established in Worlds End and the Darkseid villains month issue,personality wise I thought even better,leagues ahead of the crap Johns gave us.
As a Darkseid fan I'm satisfied,most of the complaining seems to be from the JL characters fans who wanted their own fav character to get a piece of the pie.
Can anyone explain to me what the hell is going on with joker? How does he have his face back again?
Forget that,I still wanna know why he had it cut off in the first place.
It is already will be 2015, just forget Nolan Realism Batman. Besides, I find it funny and hilarious when people say Nolan Batman is the best Batman ever. Best Batman to what ? Seriously comicbook Batman , Batman TAS, Batman Arkham Games are million times more superior. Besides don't forget that Nolan Batman retire for fight crime and stay at home for 8 years just because his girlfriend die, then comeback then retire again forever. Seriously, Bob Kane and Bill Finger will be upset with that
I just love how you ignored the live action material and moved straight to comics,games and cartoons.
@jack_donaghy: "character evolve" That's fine. Batman can totally get some better suits/gadgets... except the fine line has been crossed on numerous occasions. Having a plan to take down the JL: Cool. Being able to do it on random occasions to random members with an hour of prep? Absolutely ridiculous. There's no fun to his character. Hell, it's sad but I actually look forward to when they hopefully one day kill off Batman, just like they did Wolverine. There's no fun with the character now.
So, as for the sarcastic little tad bit? No, I didn't mind when Iron Man, Superman, and Flash- etc LEARNED their powers. Evolved them. Aka, took control of their potential. Batman did that when he learned his morality code, what he does, and upgraded his fighting style and stopped being sloppy. He did the same thing you listed for them. There is a damn fine line.
Batman has crossed it. Upgrading the suit here and there? Cool. Hell, if he started to beat Croc a bit down quicker with a one shot suit, whatever. Coool. There is no reason he should have a Hellbat suit that lets him take on Darkseid. That is the dumbest damn thing, ever.
That's not an evolution. That's not a character getting better. That's a character literally pulling technology out of the air, due to fanboy writers wanting to increase sales.
Then again, Batman fans on here would be okay if he one shoted Galactus, am I right?
@jmarshmallow Yeah, that'd be fine - if he wasn't beating people who have literally beat Superman to a pulp. He, himself doesn't count in that besides the PIS occasions.
What's the latest and most ridiculous invent- Right, the Hellbat. Which.. means he's going to take on Darkseid? Come on. That's ridiculous.
Might as well just make a suit that can allow him to one shot Doomsday next.
No one's asking you to read Batman, every characters fan would be over the moon of they one shotted Galactus,I've never seen anyone complain about Black Panthers take down Galactus plans. Every Batman book has something different to offer,if you want street level Batman go read Detective comics or dont read Batman at all,there's plenty of us who DO want to read the character,his popularity and sales reflect that.