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#1 Posted by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

Close,very close,Superman wins it out for me by a hair.

@zaied said:

Superman. He's about as American as it gets.

Pfft. Don't make me laugh. To be American is to be a citizen of America. In this regard, Superman and Captain America were equal, until Superman renounced his citizenship, because Superman belongs to everyone, even tyrants, warlords and slaughterers the world over. Steve Rogers is proud to be American, while Superman is embarrassed to be associated with that country. Steve was "American" enough to volunteer for military service, not as an invulnerable demi-god, but frail, 90-pound weakling Steve. When he finally got his wish, he served his country with distinction, to the fullest extent of his newly-superhuman ability. Talk to me when Superman puts aside his messiah complex long enough to topple dictators in the name of freedom as Cap has (which he can do easily, heck without killing anyone, whereas Cap had to win victory through blood, sweat and tears).

They say Superman's brave, but he's bulletproof. Cap won respect not by being a "good guy" magnified by incredible powers, but an inspiring leader. It is not powers, but faith and conviction that makes Steve Rogers a god among men.

Freedom ain't free. It's easy to forget that when your powers insulate you from reality, when you split your time between Antarctica and space, and can fly away and leave the world behind in a heartbeat.

Wanting to topple dictators is why he renounced his citizenship in the first place,come back when the U.S.A spends as much effort toppling the House of Saud as Assad,heck even that is being done at the behest of the Sauids' never mind the potential long term implications,you know who are fighting alongside the U.S.A to overthrow Assad? the ISIS and Al-Qaeda. They love dictators who serve their interests and hate those who dont.

#2 Posted by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh not sure what to think of this,I dont put Joker in the same category of villainy as Ra's or Vandal,it cheapens all of them.I hope it's misdirect though tying together different types of immortality was kinda cool .

Endgame just got crappier.

Beata

As if you're even reading it.

#3 Edited by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

It bothers me ALOT that Black Canary in th CW-verse is not a natural blonde. So based on that little nit-pick, no I am still not OK with Laura as Black Canary... Also did Canary ever use a staff in the comics?

But truth be told I didn't like her sister as Canary either. I guess I just don't like the CW-verse incarnation(s) of Canary period....

Not sure why you're being bothered so much,Canary IS NOT a natural blonde,she dyes her hair and prior to that wore a wig.That's one thing Arrow actually GETS.

She uses a staff in her sparring sessions, but it doesn't suit her comic aesthetic,it however suits her here.

#4 Posted by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

TDKR part 1,it's a true Batman movie,UTRH falls under the category of certain so called Batman movies that are really just movies about B or C listers holding on to Batman's jockstrap.

UTHR was good but TDKR gets what it means to be Batman.

#5 Edited by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

@toplel said:

@deathpoolthet1000: The word has lost meaning and the fact that there are so many types just proves it.

Normally, a Mary Sue is loved by all, has little to no character faults and learns things almost instantly. In short, a perfect character. Of the 3, Batman fulfills only the last one and there are people who beat him in that category. Batman is by no means perfect.

Common Marty Stu Traits

  • Aesthetically placed scars can keep Marty from being too pretty, while emphasizing his dangerous lifestyle.
  • Make him big and muscular. Even in professions where he does little physical work and shouldn't have time to train to be an Olympic weightlifter. While there's nothing preventing Mary from doing this as well, you won't see it happen very often (although there are some examples) because being muscular takes away from feminine charm in the eyes of most writers (if she needs to be strong, she'll often just practice Waif-Fu).
  • Cool Guns, Rare Guns, Cool Swords, Improbably Cool Cars... The Marty Stu will usually travel in and/or fight with something WAY COOL, and the writer will not let the reader get away without understanding just how cool it is. Basically, if female Mary Sue writers go overboard about making sure that the reader knows how crazy, gorgeous and revealing each of their character's one-per-chapter new costumes is, male Marty Stu writers will do the same about the exact model of revolver he uses and what cartridges he puts in it to kill what kind of monster, or precisely how he souped his Jaguar E-Type V12 up to 500bhp.
  • If he doesn't use firearms he will be a master of some kind of fantastically-obscure and specialised (if not imaginary) martial art which will likewise be discussed in excessive detail. Bonus points if it's a martial art that the character would in the real world have no opportunity to learn, such as an eighteenth-century nobleman who single-handedly invented modern Mixed Martial Arts or an eleventh-century knight who went crusading and learned kung-fu from a wandering Chinese master who somehow made it to Palestine.

NANANANA BAAAAAATMAAAAAAN!!!!

Yeah no,mary sues' dont have specific characteristics like fast cars,best at everything or scars on the body. If that were the case there wouldn't be much controversy identifying them. All that stuff you posted can easily apply to James Bond as well, those are not the characteristics of a mary sue,they're some characteristics of a wish fulfilment character. Yes Batman is wish fulfilment,so is Superman,Spider-Man and pretty much every other super hero,you know why? it's because super hero comics are about wish fulfilment,it's one the primary reasons why comic fans are stereotyped as nerds and the medium as it happens is hard for people to take seriously.

Imagine if Batman loses the scars,then what? or he has less sex than usual,how exactly would it make him less of a mary sue if he is one? and you do realize big and bulky has more to do with the prevalent mindset of the artists in the industry.Hell I'm just ignoring the context behind the scars(how do you not expect him to have those? the points about the pits,science and magic have been explained thoroughly) and the sex(slept with 4 women in the New-52,2 of whom have been his major love interests for decades,why shouldn't he sleep with Selina or Talia?) This was just a crap attempt at identifying a mary sue.

Wish fulfilment character is not a mary sue is not an author insert/avatar,learn the differences between all of them.

#6 Posted by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

@saren:

The other thing is from Doomed; Brainiac poisoned the Earth's atmosphere with kryptonite and Lex said the best plan he could think of to clean it up would take three years to finish. Batman used Xa-Du to clean the atmosphere in a few minutes.

I personally wouldn't use things like that as an example, that's more a matter of access to plot resources at a specific time. Almost like saying the character figured out how to do it because they had a magic lamp at the time.

Also during most of there interactions Lex seems to come across as reasonable vs Bruce comes across as childish at times, Lex was very diplomatic to everyone including Bruce during Forever Evil, Bruce came across as impatient and heavy handed.

That's Johns...

#7 Posted by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

A mix of TDKR, Kingdom Come and Futures End would be awesome.

#8 Edited by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman suffers a loss in almost every storyline, LOL at the haters acting as some gold mine has been discovered.

#9 Posted by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Miller's run on Daredevil was the reason he got the job to write Batman in the first place. Without Born Again there would be no Dark Knight Returns or Year One. So regardless what story you like more Born Again is more influential.

That doesn't mean Born Again is the reason Batman got all his defining stories,the explanation you've given here doesn't add up to your original statement,yes this post is correct but it does not offer a logical explanation to your first post.

Millers success and acclaim on Daredevil was the reason DC got him to write Batman yes but prove Born Again specifically is responsible for all defining Batman stories, as you just claimed.

I know what kind of argument is going to start here so why bother answering.

You made a statement,I asked you to to explain it,simple. The reason you cant bother is because you cant defend it,there's nothing to back up your claim.

#10 Posted by entropy_aegis (15605 posts) - - Show Bio

Miller's run on Daredevil was the reason he got the job to write Batman in the first place. Without Born Again there would be no Dark Knight Returns or Year One. So regardless what story you like more Born Again is more influential.

That doesn't mean Born Again is the reason Batman got all his defining stories,the explanation you've given here doesn't add up to your original statement,yes this post is correct but it does not offer a logical explanation to your first post.

Millers success and acclaim on Daredevil was the reason DC got him to write Batman yes but prove Born Again specifically is responsible for all defining Batman stories, as you just claimed.