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#1 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@punyparker: I think she's overly sexual in one scene and that was intentional,eh I can let it slide unless you're talking about her exposed cleavage which has become something of a norm at this point.

Norm in comics sure,i've seen "worse",but not in an Animated film....

Just havent seen so much over sexuallity,since the Supergirl flick.

@entropy_aegis said:

Yeah it was poorly written,that I agree with,for what it's worth I enjoyed Nightwing,Alfred,Damian,his final fight with Slade,some of the jokes and the final scene(until it was cut abruptly).

Batman kinda joked.....didnt dig it.

Alfred was good,Dick was the best written character there.

Star Sapphire from JL Doom,Catwoman from Year One and Wonder Woman as usual come to mind.

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#2 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

@g_leno said:

@entropy_aegis:

Sorry but I really can't believe that you have never heard anything bad about Hathaway as 'Catwoman'. Almost everyone I know including the Nolanite friend of mine said she was in no way cat like enough to be catwoman, Pfeiffer wins that hands down.

The heck is that supposed to mean? Pfeiffers version was eccentric and over the top she did well but that was not Catwoman,it was good for what it was but Hathaways character was much better written.

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#3 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@entropy_aegis said:

Slade wins now.The last episode just pushed him in to a whole new level.

How?

Gave him decent reflex feats,Bucky is still faster but the advantage just got lessened,the durability advantage for Slade just went higher.

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#4 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

@g_leno said:

@frozen said:

@g_leno: Because Iron Man 3 contradicts the notion of MCU being more faithful to the comics. TDKR isn't a mess, it's critically acclaimed. It's a mess in your opinion. To deny this is to deny fact.

TDK > Iron Man. That much should be clear.

You cannot deny then that MCU IS more faithful to the comics. Iron man 3 was the blip in the large batch of films that are as faithful as can be expected. Over the same number of years, how many DCU films have been faithful to the comics? You could argue aspects of Green Lantern were. Bits of MOS? Simply put WB wipe their butts with the source material I comparison to marvel.

Faithful in what sense? if you're referring to the origins then all the movies mentioned in this thread are faithful,if you're talking about stories then Nolan's trilogy,if power levels then MOS and MCU.

Faith fullness doesn't matter anyway,certainly not to the extent fanboys believe,Arrow's Merlyn and Deathstroke are 2 examples of awesome characters who have clearly departed from the source material.

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#5 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

@punyparker: I think she's overly sexual in one scene and that was intentional,eh I can let it slide unless you're talking about her exposed cleavage which has become something of a norm at this point.

Yeah it was poorly written,that I agree with,for what it's worth I enjoyed Nightwing,Alfred,Damian,his final fight with Slade,some of the jokes and the final scene(until it was cut abruptly).

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#6 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

For me, this is comparing my 4th and 5th favourite comic book movies. Now both sets do have their flaws. TWS did lack a significant Bucky role for a film called The Winter Soldier. And like it or not, the Nolan movies are not STRICTLY good Batman movies. The first two are exceptional films, especially TDK. The supporting cast is riveting, the villains are translated well to film and the plot does contain plenty of thematic structure and intelligent commentary on the human condition. Where they fail, and I do mean cripplingly fail, is translating Batman to the screen. Nolan's Batman was a pitiful facsimile of the original deal. His fighting is awkwardly clunky, he barely uses actual, oh I don't know, DEDUCTIVE reasoning and he mopes just as much as Tobey Maguire did in Raimi's Spider-Man films yet people don't bat an eyelid.

Call Batman Begins and The Dark Knight good films. Heck call them good comic book films. I enjoy them both. But calling them good Batman films is a weak argument because they aren't good because of their adaptation of Batman. He was barely recognisable from his seriously well organised comic book counterpart and Bruce Wayne wasn't handled any better either. And don't get me started on TDKR. How anyone can like it is utterly beyond me. That mediocre mess of a disappointment let down two really good films.

Rant aside, The Dark Knight is the better film but The Winter Soldier has a much better protagonist in the form of Chris Evans as well as better action and better adaptation of the source material. The Dark Knight beats it in overall acting, plot, cinematography and realistic themes. Even though Nolan is massively overrated as a director and producer with his iffy gritty Nolan realism.

I know you and I never will never see eye to eye on Rises but this is new,you mentioned what you believed to be the plot contrivances in the film but lackluster acting and disappointing antagonists really? how many performances in CMBs come close to Hardy's Bane? Hathaway's Catwoman was also incredibly well received,to this day the only complaints against her are "MORE BOOBS AND WHIPS" same goes for the villains,after the Joker Hardy's Bane is the most praised villain in CBM history.

TDKR is universally liked by critics and general fans,the only ones who dislike it are either Nolan haters or comic fans and those guys just go back and forth with Nolan lovers on the forums.

All that aside,I think it's plausible that Winter Soldier title was more of a reference to Cap than Bucky.

@g_leno said:
@farkam said:

I honestly expected Cap:WS to be more of a personal/emotional film. The plot was so big the slight personal element present just got overshadowed under it. Bucky being revealed as the Winter Soldier in this was just like "Oh, ok". It wasn't very important compared to the "minority report" plot. Also the 3rd act was so bad. 4 people can take down Shield/Hydra now. Uh-huh. Black Widow getting away because "they need her". Yeah right.

Those 4 people were the Director of shield who knew its ins and outs, his 2nd in command, the best agent they have and the super soldier. I can't imagine a better 4 people for the job (except if the other Avengers got involved).

@frozen said:

@g_leno: Ironic. Iron Man 3 was not close to the comics....

Why do you keep bringing Iron man 3 in to this? my avatar is Iron man. Iron man 1 is one of the greatest CBMs ever. I agree that the mandarin was handled very poorly. The difference here is that I can admit that one of my favourite characters had a poor movie, you however cannot. TDKR is a horrible mess. I have a friend who loves the Nolan trilogy, yet when I say that Burtons batman is better, the only thing he ever comes back at me with is that he hates the Prince soundtrack!

Your opinion,truth is any TDKR supporter can go a few rounds with you on that one,you can keep hating the lover will keep loving it but it's unquestionably a critical and financial success would've been even more so on the latter if it weren't for unfortunate events.

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#7 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh....... another Batman direct to dvd animated joy. Wake me up when DC actually has the stones to do a animated direct to DVD not involving Batman and his mythos.

It's a Suicide Squad movie,at this point they're using Batman to help those said characters.

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#8 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@wolverine08 said:

Finally watched it.

I see where all the complaints are coming from, and it was indeed flawed at some points, but I still enjoyed it.

As someone who enjoyed the movie,I'd like to hear your thoughts on the criticism(the common points).

Well, I do agree with the complaints surrounding BaneDeathstroke's portrayal and Batman's role throughout the film. Deathstroke did more or less just get Bane's motivations as a character slapped unto him, and Batman was like many pointed out, just kind of.... there. The Langston family plot point was also kind of useless and other parts of the film could have seen development from the cutting of them. In regards to positives, I think Damian Wayne was portrayed pretty well. I feel the gravitas around the character that drew me towards in the first place was placed perfectly. His interactions with other characters like Dick, Alfred, etc. did flow well too IMO. I also liked how potent he was portrayed. The only thing I'd criticize with his portrayal was how quickly he went against killing towards the end. That was something of a convenient change that wasn't set up much at all. I'd also point out that Talia was done well here too. I usually don't give a damn for her, but I think her relationship with Damian was done very well. I've read most of the complaints surrounding action, and I guess it's a case of what you're used to. I actually read a lot of manga along with comics, and I actually enjoyed the manga- esque feel the action sported. The only thing that I questioned there was the gore. I personally wasn't bothered by it or anything, but considering that this is supposed to be a PG-13 movie(I believe), the producers were willing to push the limits pretty high. The more adultish things surrounding the movie were kind of hit or miss for me. I did laugh when Dick almost told Damian to go f%ck himself, but I was kind of perplexed by Deathstroke calling Batman a sperm donor.

I think most of my enjoyment for this movie stemmed for me coming into it with a popcorn entertainment type of thing after hearing the critiques around it. I think on that front, the movie is good for that in just mindless entertainment, but I do agree that from a critical stand point, the movie kind of missed out largely on what made the Batman and Son storyline great in the beginning.

Thanks for the input.

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#9 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally watched it.

I see where all the complaints are coming from, and it was indeed flawed at some points, but I still enjoyed it.

As someone who enjoyed the movie,I'd like to hear your thoughts on the criticism(the common points).

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#10 Posted by entropy_aegis (13611 posts) - - Show Bio

@anjales said:

I feel like the most of the people who didn't like the movie are jaded Deathstroke fans who were disappointed he wasn't portrayed as unbeatable mastermind they think he should be, and Damian haters who aren't even fans of Damian himself. Sorry, if those are the only real complaints it is hard to take them seriously. People seem to forget that the movie is called SON of Batman, guess what, Damian is gonna get the spotlight and is gonna be made as strong as possible. And guys please if you're going to post spoilers, at least put them in spoiler tags, just because you didn't like it doesn't mean you have to ruin it for everybody else.

The only things I'm reading, are just the usual nerds stuff, like, he should not beat this guy, etc, it's so annoying and childish. Give a serious reason why this movie sucks..

The problem with Deathstroke is not his combat ability alone,he was ofcourse gonna lose,all villains lose. The problem was his character as a whole,he's the reason why the characters do what they do,he's not Deathstroke in personality,back story,power set and motivation,his goals are unclear,he is petty,heck his back story is inconsistent and the worst part here is that everything he does affects all the characters involved so his suckiness doesn't just stick to him it's spread out. To sum up the central plot is dependent on a very poor character.

Deathstroke affects the movie well beyond fight scenes.

Apart from all that,the Langstorm family portion of the movie was a huge waste of time,the narrative would've benefited immensely if it was cutout entirely,Damian's journey from assassin prodigy to Robin was not believable,the characters(and voices) were bland and wooden,particularly Batman and Deathstroke. The action was unappealing to me personally in part due to gore but also cause it felt more like Manga action.

In addition the story was very detached from the source material,it's not an issue for me but it's gonna be one for many others.It was a very poorly crafted film and this is coming from a huge Damian fan.

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