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#1 Posted by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: eh like i said in the animated series joker was a 4 episode per season villain who always get beat, even penguin too,they will have more enmity with the bat because he is the main guy for street heroes in d.c, almost or all d,c street villain will encounter him, and he will have more villains to his name, about superman fans complaining joker finding out his identity we all know that joker is an intelligent psychopath, him finding out his identity would not bother, and MAY not bother most fans though it may cause a ruckus, but joker is not someone who uses secret identity of a hero or cares about it so there should be no annoyance IMO.

Batman was b!tching darkseid is the brave and the bold animated series, he even b!tched kanjaro and lex luthor, and even many other big villains, in the animated series(btbatb).

The similarities you say is there is gonna be there due to the rep batman have, clark faced lex multiple times in smallville when lex turned bad and people enjoyed it.

Though am waiting for the real count vertigo to show.

Cartoons dont follow the structure of actual shows, the comparison is moot. Joker doesn't use the ID of Batman(which is about to change),he'll have no problem whatsoever with using it against Superman.

#2 Posted by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

Silent Bomber trying to downplay Nolan as usual,the dead dialect thing was an excuse to cover the creators mistake,you cant just use a real language to get your point across and then claim to making up your fictional dialect when it turns out a mistake was made. It's Raas folks,unless you think he's the feather of the demon.

#3 Edited by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

@gizmorino said:

@saren: anytime batman never do a thing or doesn't solve a problem.

Like about 3 threads popped out when luthor found his identity, and there are others, whenever he is idle threads pop out that the writier is b!tching him, when he does things or like the most active leaguer.

Lol at superman fans and wondie fans creating threads about batman b!tching them, it's almost like a normal thing for him to be doing, their complain is not even up to the batman fans complain when he is idle in the league, or another character stands up to him, when cyborg stood up to him the time the watch tower destroyed the fans were like he will end cyborg, they were like so cyborg is now that popular or badass to stand up to batman.

Batman fans have every right to complain about a Superman villain discovering his identity,maybe Lex should figure out the secret id of his own arch nemesis first. How do you think Superman fans would feel if Joker discovered Clark's double life and started making him look like a fool? they were pissed off at Endgame as it is and that was just one issue.

@gizmorino said:

@entropy_aegis: People continue creaming bathood, green bats for a reason that is not worth it, like many other characters don't have similarities to him.

The show using characters from batman is just....... The characters exist in the same universe, deathstroke is a teen titans villain, deadshot is a suicide squad member.

Amazo appeared in a batman animated movie, lex is talked about, and again which d.c villain is not associated with batman or superman? Deathstroke appeared in smallville, deadshot appeared in smallville.

Am not denying it has similarities, but it is not similar to the extent of calling it a batman show

This show took 3 characters who were the best GA villains and exceptionally badass in their own right only to turn them in to fodder villain of the week. I am ofcourse talking about Constantine Drakon,Simon Lacroix and Count Vertigo. Imagine there was a Batman show out there which turned Bane,Joker,Two-Face etc in to villains of the week but used Darkseid,Vandal Savage and Lex Luthor as the primary antagonists. I would love to hear what these Arrow apologists would say to that,see I can dig up comics where Batman faced all these men,heck Batman's rivalry/animosity with every single one of them is much more fleshed out than Oliver's enmity with Ra's(non existent) and Deathstroke( has as much depth as a cardboard). So I guess from now on we can consider Darkseid,Lex and Vandal Batman villains.

#4 Posted by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

Bat-God is just a satire of any form of fanatical support on the internet to a person, group, object, fictional character, or ideology. When I throw around the word "Bat-God" I don’t really think he can beat Living Tribunal or Galactus, just that one way another the thread's topic will incite a heated discussion.

TLDR - it's rustle mah jimmies with utility belt.

Not any more though not really,Batgod does not necessarily imply Batman beating Godlike characters,it's just a new twist and new perspective of looking at Batman and his relationship with the Joker. Similarly The Return of Bruce Wayne also made him a God,rather literally,again no planet busting or JLA ass kicking.

#5 Posted by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: These characters are cool but they are not popular. Ask any person on the street and the only one that might get recognised is Hex because of the movie but it's not like he can be used in Arrow. Cheshire is related to Batman, so is Scandal because you would have to explain who her father is for the character to even work.

@tdk_1997 said:

The show is literally supposed to be a Batman TV show but somehow it got the name 'Arrow', which is very strange. Every single thing is pointing out and shouting "Batman!!!" but it is supposed to be around Green Arrow and his mythos. Seems really strange.

Have you ever read Green Arrow: Year One or Longbow Hunters?

How is Cheshire related to Batman? or even Scandal for that matter.

#6 Posted by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

@dan12456 said:
@entropy_aegis said:

You do realize Merlyn was actually introduced to assassinate Batman right? half of his appearances have been in Batman books,yes he's a GA villain but the LOA roots all go and tie back to Batman,every single time he shows up with the League he's in a Batman book.

Why would GA fans complain? they realize this show's success has a lot to do with it's Batmanization. Fans get the chance to see their favourite DC characters,they have no incentive to complain.

Who cares that Merlyn's initial connection to the LOA came from Batman, doesn't change the fact that he is now (and has been for a long time) a Green Arrow villain who has these connections. Just because Merlyn's entire character hasn't been defined in Green Arrow comics doesn't mean the show should ignore the parts that weren't defined in GA.

Also if the show wasn't true to GA, his fans would have the most reason to complain, as it wouldn't be the character they love on tv anymore. Look at all the major movie flops, Green Lantern, Daredevil, Catwoman. The people complaining about those movies were fans of those characters who were angry because the movies butchered the character they liked. No one cared that technically their character was in the spotlight because in reality it wasn't their character anymore. But (for the most part) that hasn't happened with Arrow because GA fans are happy with the portrayal.

Also people need to stop acting like Nolan reinvented the wheel. The tone of the Batman movies is a tone which has existed as long as movies and comics have existed...

Merlyn has showed up in as many Batman books as he has GA,strange for a GA villain dont you think?

You're comparing a TV show with movies,you have also incorrectly implied that serious fans have any significant impact on the success of a product,if that were true the first Batman movie would have been butchered at the box office.

Nolan DID reinvent the wheel,that's not me saying it,it's just what all respected directors and actors think.

#7 Posted by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: What characters would that be?

Seriously you dont think DC has street level characters who have nothing to do with Batman? Jonah Hex, Unknown Soldier, Scandal Savage, Richard Dragon, Cheshire, do I need go on?

#8 Posted by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: what am getting at?

It's that it's not a batman like series and batman fans are jealous/ love to rant.

MMH fans voiced their anger about him being removed, i do see it, but it can't be compared to batman fans rant, when anything happens in JL and batman doesn't solves the problem threads pop up, you cannot compare the amount of rant thread batman have to the entire rant thread other d.c character have.

GL and flash will continue to attack eachother but not like batman fans crucify the writer for not allowing batman win a fight or solve a problem or stand with JL.

GL fans is that hal is b etter than john or john is better than hal, same goes for flash fans especially wally and barry(with barry having civilised fans), you cannot compare it with bats, and cyborg fans don't even talk that much, their voice is not heard, i have seen cyborg's fans rant about him being b!tched, but it is not up to batman fans rant.

Every fans rant about their character, sure, but batman fans, the rant are just too....... MUCH, any slight thing that happen must result to a thread with atleast 2 pages of rant.

People who don't follow the character loves the show and don't see any similarities with any batman moviesm the casual fans love it, then why must you batman fans complain.

It's just that you all fear he MAY take the spotlight(though i don't see it happening).

Don't get me wrong i love batman, MMH, flash and GL, check my "about me" then you know am not against him, am even happy MMH has his own JL with cool characters, but the rant about arrow being batman is just annoying. Check the people complaining all are batman fans.

The writer in question is Geoff Johns and he's the only one Batman fans complain about,go to the WW forums they complain about everyone.

You are right I cannot compare,because Batman is head and shoulders more popular and as such there will be more threads and topics.

So you're saying that there are no similarities because casual fans dont find them? is that supposed to convince me? heck it only reinforces my opinion.

#9 Edited by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Is Batman just a green black Green Hornet?

I dunno, but I sure as hell dont recall GH having a Ra's al Ghul in his rogues gallery.

How many popular street level characters exist at DC that aren't in Batman's rogues gallery?

DC has plenty of street level characters that have nothing to do with Batman,popularity though depends on how much effort and love they were given by the writers. If Arrow continues to use Batman related stuff,I assure you those characters are NEVER gonna be popular.

#10 Posted by entropy_aegis (15602 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Do you realize how hard it is to write a 52 issue comic series only having a week to do one or two drafts.

Yeah,I just wish the writers realized that as well.