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#1 Posted by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

TDK was good because of Leger's Joker, but outside of that, the film dragged through some dull spots and had mediocre fight scenes. It is still a good movie, but as a livelong Batman fan, the Burton Batman fans still stand tall as the defining live action renditions of the character. They had their flaws, but did a much better job capturing the tone and style of the comics than Nolan's ultra realism approach did.

TWS is an amazing film, and I liked it so much it has made me a dedicated Captain America fan making his way through Ed Brubaker's run right now.

Incorrect,Burtons movies had Burtons tone,a good deal of his movies have the same tone(weird fantasy),the fact this tone was later incorporated via TAS doesn't mean that Burton got the tone of Batman before the 1989 film correct,Burton created his own tone that became a part of Batman's history. The tone of Post Crisis Batman stories leading up to the 1989 movie was closer to Nolan's approach(Year:one,Prey,Venom).

#2 Edited by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

@g_leno said:

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@theacidskull said:

@g_leno said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@frozen: BUT ME WANT DETECTIVE SKILLS,ME THINKS JOKER SHOULD BE PERMA WHITE,BANE SUCKS DUH HE'S TOO SMALL,CATWOMAN LAME CAUSE NO BOOBS,FRICK YOU NOLANITE.

Ummmmm, Actually, the Joker should be perma-white. That was why I don't like Ledger's Portrayal. Why would he be the joker? Some criminal painting his face (badly) is in NO WAY like the comics that you are claiming the Nolan films are so closely following.

And Bane is too small. lol

Joker having a white fade has nothing to do with his character, if you think it does, I believe you have some catching up to do. seriously. Appearance is secondary.

Stop talking sense,we're comic fans.

Oh ok.

LEDGER SUCKS COZ HE DOES NOT USE CLWON GAS! BECAUSE COSTUMES AND WEAPONS DEFINE COMIC CHARACTERS!

that's cool, I must be wrong because you are now using capitals and being childish.

Does the Joker use 'CLWON' gas lol in the comics? yes. Does he have a perma-white complexion in the comics? yes. (obviously its not attached to his face any more). So in what way is Ledger's Joker faithful to the comics?

In the end, this poll has a healthy lead for TWS, so I understand that you guys are the cornered rats here, but 2/3 of the votes are against you.

Maybe you should go read some Joker comics,cause at this point it's clear that you have o idea what you're talking about.

TWS has a healthy lead cause it just came out recently while TDK did 6 years ago,not to mention this site is heavily biased against Nolan and the total vote count is less than 200,this poll indicates absolutely nothing.

#3 Posted by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@entropy_aegis said:

Arguing with Lvenger got me thinking,the complaint that Nolans Batman was a crappy fighter and unintelligent springs up consistently,however when you get down it Nolan Batman ACTUALLY WON,he succeeded even in doing things that comic Batman has failed in(stopping crime,destroying the League,beating Bane hand to hand). So the argument is fallacious at best,Nolan's Batman works in the context of the story of the trilogy and that's what matters.

Heh no that argument isn't fallacious in the slightest. You can't go the extreme end of the scale of "Batman won therefore Nolan's Batman works in the film universe." Need I remind you of Batman's failings in each film? He got his handed to him by Scarescrow straight away, he got tricked by the Joker into following the wrong path every time and even when he had him for interrogation, he still failed to save Rachel. And then Rises is just a big massive failure unto itself. I fail to see any competence or serious skill displayed by Bale's Batman at all. He's a bog standard vigilante with a gruff voice and a large amount of luck. Nolan's Batman does not work within the context of the story because it's what others do that always adds to the victory.

Ra's al Ghul: You were my greatest student.

Lucius Fox: One of the wealthiest,most powerful men in the world.

Bane: I broke you,how did you come back?

Looks like he works in his universe to me,unless you want to categorically deny on screen evidence.

He stopped the Nuke,he beat Bane mentally(by escaping the pit) and physically, forcing a proud warrior like him to resort to using a gun,destroyed the League,ended all crime in Gotham,sure there were loses along the way but didn't Nolan Batman accomplish what he set out to achieve in Begins?

I'm not sure if you're even trying cause your arguments here are silly. He beat Scarecrow didn't he? and twice I might add not to mention that was your typical Batman/Scarecrow encounter,Crane poisons him,Batman hallucinates,Batman overcomes it and kicks Cranes ass. By this logic Cap sucks cause he didn't stop TWS in their first fight,or the Avengers as a whole suck cause they allowed Loki to escape right from under their noses.

Same goes for the Joker,he gets inside Batmans head,hits him hard mentally,Rachel's death was no different from Jason death.

#4 Posted by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@theacidskull said:

@g_leno said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@frozen: BUT ME WANT DETECTIVE SKILLS,ME THINKS JOKER SHOULD BE PERMA WHITE,BANE SUCKS DUH HE'S TOO SMALL,CATWOMAN LAME CAUSE NO BOOBS,FRICK YOU NOLANITE.

Ummmmm, Actually, the Joker should be perma-white. That was why I don't like Ledger's Portrayal. Why would he be the joker? Some criminal painting his face (badly) is in NO WAY like the comics that you are claiming the Nolan films are so closely following.

And Bane is too small. lol

Joker having a white fade has nothing to do with his character, if you think it does, I believe you have some catching up to do. seriously. Appearance is secondary.

Stop talking sense,we're comic fans.

Oh ok.

LEDGER SUCKS COZ HE DOES NOT USE CLWON GAS! BECAUSE COSTUMES AND WEAPONS DEFINE COMIC CHARACTERS!

That's my boy.

#5 Posted by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

Add Adam West,he solos,maybe Clooney can buy off Cap with his Bat credit card.

The Black guy was Harvey Dent Jr

LOL,this is Nick Fury reference right?

#6 Posted by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

I dunno but something tells me this movie is gonna be a huge disappointment,I cant pin point it but that's how I really feel.It seems like a blatant cash grab.

#7 Posted by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

@g_leno said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@frozen: BUT ME WANT DETECTIVE SKILLS,ME THINKS JOKER SHOULD BE PERMA WHITE,BANE SUCKS DUH HE'S TOO SMALL,CATWOMAN LAME CAUSE NO BOOBS,FRICK YOU NOLANITE.

Ummmmm, Actually, the Joker should be perma-white. That was why I don't like Ledger's Portrayal. Why would he be the joker? Some criminal painting his face (badly) is in NO WAY like the comics that you are claiming the Nolan films are so closely following.

And Bane is too small. lol

Joker having a white fade has nothing to do with his character, if you think it does, I believe you have some catching up to do. seriously. Appearance is secondary.

Stop talking sense,we're comic fans.

#8 Posted by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

@g_leno said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@frozen: BUT ME WANT DETECTIVE SKILLS,ME THINKS JOKER SHOULD BE PERMA WHITE,BANE SUCKS DUH HE'S TOO SMALL,CATWOMAN LAME CAUSE NO BOOBS,FRICK YOU NOLANITE.

Ummmmm, Actually, the Joker should be perma-white. That was why I don't like Ledger's Portrayal. Why would he be the joker? Some criminal painting his face (badly) is in NO WAY like the comics that you are claiming the Nolan films are so closely following.

And Bane is too small. lol

Okay,lets assume for a second that Ledgers Joker was perma white,lets also assume Hardy's Bane was 6'8,now please tell me how exactly did the quality of the movies change with these new assumptions in place.

#9 Posted by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say rest Batman and use Bat family characters,current Red Hood vs Winter Soldier would be my pick(yeah I know Bucky wins,should be cool to debate though)

#10 Edited by entropy_aegis (13631 posts) - - Show Bio

MOTP in a different beast altogether,it's hands down the best Batman story ever IMO.