Thor vs Black Adam

"Ragnarök said:

"HalJordan1986x said:

"If you are suggest Thor can fight BA in a physical fight you are out of your mind

BA made Wonder Woman his bitch as well several times now

"

Energy manipulation and transmutation aren't magical abilities.Heralds of Galactus,Chemistro,Ms.Marvel,Photon and Vulcan are not magic users.All of them can use at least one of those powers.

Thor doesn't not have to use magical energy.

BA making Wonder Woman anything means nothing.I never said Wonder Woman could beat him.My point was Wonder Woman shouldn't be able to cause him pain at all if anything of magical nature does nothing to him.

"

WW was using physical force
It has the same effect but Thor powers are still magic based
That is the source of his power
Any offense he has is magic based


Even so its not like transmutation is gonna do anything to someone of BA level
Heck even Supes has resisted transmutation from sky father level beings

Look I know you like Thor but face it
He loses"

BA wins

Thor wins.

"Thor wins."

"Ragnarök said:

"Thor wins."

No..

BA outclasses him in every way and is immune to magic.

BA wins after a decent fight."

Thor powers are magic based

BA puts a beat down on Thor

Thor is boned

and ragnarok is a fanboy

"Thor powers are magic based

BA puts a beat down on Thor

Thor is boned"

"HalJordan1986x said:

"Thor powers are magic based

BA puts a beat down on Thor

Thor is boned"

Did you even read my post? This is getting ridiculous.Energy manipulation and transmutation are not magical powers.

"

I don't understand why people have to throw around insults when they just aren't right.

Black Adam hands down, in my opinion.

Thor wins this.

"Black Adam hands down,

"Qoheed said:

"Black Adam hands down,

Yup
He beats Thor to death"

LOL all i see is BA fights Captain Marvel and Superman....SO DID THOR...and he beat Captain Marvel and gave Superman the fight of his life. HE IS IN THAT STRENGTH RANGE.

Nobody has shown anything convincing for Black Adams strength other than who he has fought. Fair dues then Thor has squared up to Galactus and the Celestials, he has squared up to infinity Gauntlet Thanos...does that mean he is every bit as powerful/intelligent/durable as them? No.

The scan with BA beating the JLA explains why he is kicking their arses. He means to kill and they only mean to incapacitate, plus the fact there were only about 3 people there in his strength range.

Magic may allow Thor to weild energies but the energy itself is not magical...like the cosmic storm scan all the magic did was allow him to control it the destructive force is still that of the cosmic storm. So if BA is hit with cosmic energies or all the powers of the storm it is a thing of science, being immune to magic wont help. Same with the infinity vortex thing. That bad science will hurt, it isnt magic based.

I dont really care if Captain Marvel cant do diddly to BA's magic. Its pretty much standard that Thor is one of, if not THE, thunderiest/lightningiest man there is. Its still viable.

Oh and since this is how things seem to work with some people NUFF SAID....yay Thor wins now...silly me providing scans when all i had to do was say that....Come on people show some scans. Show Black Adam lifting something Thor cant. Show Black Adam being faster than Thor, until you can you are just being silly and hoping, rather than proving BA wins.

Personally i think a physical fight would be very hard to call between the two BUT Thor has all the other crazy psuedo science magic powers that throw this in his favour for me.

BA  with ease

Thor wins.

"Classic Thor is, outclassed in all terms. Is as simple as that, don't know why people, refuse to accept this."

"Thor wins."

"Fantasma Ghost said:

"Classic Thor is, outclassed in all terms. Is as simple as that, don't know why people, refuse to

"LOL all i see is BA fights Captain Marvel and Superman....SO DID THOR...and he beat Captain Marvel and gave Superman the fight of his life. HE IS IN THAT STRENGTH RANGE.

Nobody has shown anything convincing for Black Adams strength other than who he has fought. Fair dues then Thor has squared up to Galactus and the Celestials, he has squared up to infinity Gauntlet Thanos...does that mean he is every bit as powerful/intelligent/durable as them? No.

The scan with BA beating the JLA explains why he is kicking their arses. He means to kill and they only mean to incapacitate, plus the fact there were only about 3 people there in his strength range.

Magic may allow Thor to weild energies but the energy itself is not magical...like the cosmic storm scan all the magic did was allow him to control it the destructive force is still that of the cosmic storm. So if BA is hit with cosmic energies or all the powers of the storm it is a thing of science, being immune to magic wont help. Same with the infinity vortex thing. That bad science will hurt, it isnt magic based.

I dont really care if Captain Marvel cant do diddly to BA's magic. Its pretty much standard that Thor is one of, if not THE, thunderiest/lightningiest man there is. Its still viable.

Oh and since this is how things seem to work with some people NUFF SAID....yay Thor wins now...silly me providing scans when all i had to do was say that....Come on people show some scans. Show Black Adam lifting something Thor cant. Show Black Adam being faster than Thor, until you can you are just being silly and hoping, rather than proving BA wins.

Personally i think a physical fight would be very hard to call between the two BUT Thor has all the other crazy psuedo science magic powers that throw this in his favour for me."

Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page

"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"

"HalJordan1986x said:

"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"

What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Yup

"Is this current Thor? If it is, Thor ftw
"

and super skrull lol

"Vance Astro said:

"HalJordan1986x said:

"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"

What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins."

BA wins
There is nothing Thor can do

"bloodmist said:

"Vance Astro said:

"HalJordan1986x said:

"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"

What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins."

The whole point wasn't based on the crossover."

"BA wins
There is nothing Thor can do"

"Vance Astro said:

"bloodmist said:

"Vance Astro said:

"HalJordan1986x said:

"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"

What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins."

The whole point wasn't based on the crossover."

Doesn't really matter...if a person is going to use crossovers to make a point I can't trust their logic on anything else."

Thor wins.

"bloodmist said:

"Vance Astro said:

"bloodmist said:

"Vance Astro said:

"HalJordan1986x said:

"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"

What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins."

The whole point wasn't based on the crossover."

Doesn't really matter...if a person is going to use crossovers to make a point I can't trust their logic on anything else."

Yup
BA curbstomp

Most people here already acknowledge that"

...............

Dont worry
Thor will be dead before he can feel anything

I'm done here.

Glad you admitted BA wins
See that wasnt so bad

"Glad you admitted BA wins
See that wasnt so bad"

See that wasnt so hard
Glad you admitted BA wins

Trolling is not ok.

"Trolling is not ok."

"Vance Astro said:

"Trolling is not ok."

Then you better leave troll"

"LOL all i see is BA fights Captain Marvel and Superman....SO DID THOR...and he beat Captain Marvel and gave Superman the fight of his life. HE IS IN THAT STRENGTH RANGE.

Nobody has shown anything convincing for Black Adams strength other than who he has fought. Fair dues then Thor has squared up to Galactus and the Celestials, he has squared up to infinity Gauntlet Thanos...does that mean he is every bit as powerful/intelligent/durable as them? No.

The scan with BA beating the JLA explains why he is kicking their arses. He means to kill and they only mean to incapacitate, plus the fact there were only about 3 people there in his strength range.

Magic may allow Thor to weild energies but the energy itself is not magical...like the cosmic storm scan all the magic did was allow him to control it the destructive force is still that of the cosmic storm. So if BA is hit with cosmic energies or all the powers of the storm it is a thing of science, being immune to magic wont help. Same with the infinity vortex thing. That bad science will hurt, it isnt magic based.

I dont really care if Captain Marvel cant do diddly to BA's magic. Its pretty much standard that Thor is one of, if not THE, thunderiest/lightningiest man there is. Its still viable.

Oh and since this is how things seem to work with some people NUFF SAID....yay Thor wins now...silly me providing scans when all i had to do was say that....Come on people show some scans. Show Black Adam lifting something Thor cant. Show Black Adam being faster than Thor, until you can you are just being silly and hoping, rather than proving BA wins.

Personally i think a physical fight would be very hard to call between the two BUT Thor has all the other crazy psuedo science magic powers that throw this in his favour for me."

BA curbstomp

"Logic Mark III said:

"LOL all i see is BA fights Captain Marvel and Superman....SO DID THOR...and he beat Captain Marvel and gave Superman the fight of his life. HE IS IN THAT STRENGTH RANGE.

Nobody has shown anything convincing for Black Adams strength other than who he has fought. Fair dues then Thor has squared up to Galactus and the Celestials, he has squared up to infinity Gauntlet Thanos...does that mean he is every bit as powerful/intelligent/durable as them? No.

The scan with BA beating the JLA explains why he is kicking their arses. He means to kill and they only mean to incapacitate, plus the fact there were only about 3 people there in his strength range.

Magic may allow Thor to weild energies but the energy itself is not magical...like the cosmic storm scan all the magic did was allow him to control it the destructive force is still that of the cosmic storm. So if BA is hit with cosmic energies or all the powers of the storm it is a thing of science, being immune to magic wont help. Same with the infinity vortex thing. That bad science will hurt, it isnt magic based.

I dont really care if Captain Marvel cant do diddly to BA's magic. Its pretty much standard that Thor is one of, if not THE, thunderiest/lightningiest man there is. Its still viable.

Oh and since this is how things seem to work with some people NUFF SAID....yay Thor wins now...silly me providing scans when all i had to do was say that....Come on people show some scans. Show Black Adam lifting something Thor cant. Show Black Adam being faster than Thor, until you can you are just being silly and hoping, rather than proving BA wins.

Personally i think a physical fight would be very hard to call between the two BUT Thor has all the other crazy psuedo science magic powers that throw this in his favour for me."

You want to see proof of BA Lifting something Thor couldn't? Well I can't show you that, because Adam doesn't engage in such activities. He has no interest in moving asteroids or lifting magical snakes in order to save the world. We can only measure Black Adam in two ways: By being equal (or greater in my opinion) to CM and Superman, and through the people he's fought and killed.

If Thor has squared against Galactus and the Celestials, I can tell you Superman Has fought Imperiex, Anti-Monitor, And Parallax. As for BA beating JLA (though I presume you're talking about world war 3) I don't see how killing instinctint is going to be a problem for Adam here. And your assumption (assuming still we are talking about WW3) is wrong, There were at least eight people in his strength range in China: Power Girl, Martian Manhunter, Four Green Lanterns (seen casually taking out Kryptonians in new krypton, though I doubt any of them is as powerful as superman), Donna Troy and Firestorm, not to mention loads of others. Black Adam has also killed Amazo during infinite crisis.

I agree, being immune to magic doesn't mean being immune to physical damage, and his immunity is thrown around a lot on this site. The immunity simply means he would be harmed by a magical attack in relation to his physical durability, unlike Superman, whose durability and invulnerability used to be negated by magical attack (but not anymore). With that said, I don't think a lightning would actually do much to hurt BA. And even if it could, BA can still avoid it. even at his most coonservative speed, at mach 500, he is still more than twice faster than lightning, which is about 220,00 km/h. I don't know about Thor's pseudo science energies......

As for Thor depowering him, not gonna happen. I don't care how thundery he is, if Captain Marvel, the guy actually  who controls his power cannot depower him without serious magical backup, Thor sure as hell ain't doing it. he can only be striped of his power if the egyptian gods who provide his gifts agree on it. The only one I know capable of depowering him is the Spectre, though that isn't helping either of them.

Now I want to make this clear: I NEVER said Black Adam, curbstomp. whoever wins, this will be the fight of their lives, but I believe Black Adam has sufficient strength to overpower thor and win this."