You do understand that it took a multitude of other magic users working in conjunction with Captain Marvel to accomplish that feat, right? "
not that one, marvel was possessed by Gluttony, so its just an irrelevant scan. "
Yeah he's been depowered a few times now
sometimes easily, sometimes it takes a lot to depower him
Anyway I douby he would take a planet busting shot to the face, Adam unlike Superman does not have the feats to his name. Plus Thor does not have Superman's weakness to magic
You do understand that it took a multitude of other magic users working in conjunction with Captain Marvel to accomplish that feat, right? "
not that one, marvel was possessed by Gluttony, so its just an irrelevant scan. "
Yeah he's been depowered a few times now sometimes easily, sometimes it takes a lot to depower him Anyway I douby he would take a planet busting shot to the face, Adam unlike Superman does not have the feats to his name. Plus Thor does not have Superman's weakness to magic "
By amped versions of Billy, or Shazam himself. Thor doesn't posses the power to do so. Adam has fought planet busters before, and has taken on teams more powerful collectively then Thor. Adam has the advantage here. Go troll some other site.
Even if he fought Pre Crisis Superman, it still would not count because Superman is extremely vulnerable against magic attacks
Current Superman is much weaker than Pre Crisis but current Supes is still is the lead heavy hitter in DC and Current Superman breaks MOONS not Planets DC specifically made him weaker than his Pre Crisis Year for a reason, it was so Superman wouldn't just one shot everyone, today's Superman was made weaker so he doesn't deus ex machina every villain and spin the planet backwards to save Lois Current Superman does Moons not Worlds and Adam can barely keep up with him despite Superman's weakness to magic
There is a reason Superman or Wonder Woman never showed up in Adam's comic that was made to make Adam look good the reason is if Sueprman or Wonder Woman showed up either could have taken him down, instead they sent a bunch of rookies with no feats to be cannon fodder in front of Adam
Superman is still the lead hero when it comes to strength on DC Earth He will probably always will be
The Benchmark is taking out a Moon Or dragging a planet when 3 friends come together
Very few have passed the mark unless you want to start counting Pre Crisis Feats
Name one Even if he fought Pre Crisis Superman, it still would not count because Superman is extremely vulnerable against magic attacks Current Superman is much weaker than Pre Crisis but current Supes is still is the lead heavy hitter in DC and Current Superman breaks MOONS not Planets DC specifically made him weaker than his Pre Crisis Year for a reason, it was so Superman wouldn't just one shot everyone, today's Superman was made weaker so he doesn't deus ex machina every villain and spin the planet backwards to save Lois Current Superman does Moons not Worlds and Adam can barely keep up with him despite Superman's weakness to magic There is a reason Superman or Wonder Woman never showed up in Adam's comic that was made to make Adam look good the reason is if Sueprman or Wonder Woman showed up either could have taken him down, instead they sent a bunch of rookies with no feats to be cannon fodder in front of Adam Superman is still the lead hero when it comes to strength on DC Earth He will probably always will be The Benchmark is taking out a Moon Or dragging a planet when 3 friends come together Very few have passed the mark unless you want to start counting Pre Crisis Feats "
Has Supermans strength not moved planets and destroyed celestial bodies? Has Billy, Powergirl, or Martian Manhunter gone toe to toe with Clark in the past? Because Adams done battle with all of them, and defeated them on numerous occasions. Seriously, go back to trolling sites that will actually listen to you.
" Has Billy, Powergirl, or Martian Manhunter gone toe to toe with Clark in the past? Because Adams done battle with all of them, and defeated them on numerous occasions. Seriously, go back to trolling sites that will actually listen to you. "
ok troll , lets spell it out
Superman AND FRIENDS have moved planets, that's 3 people Pre Crisis Moved Planets, Current can not
He destroyed asteroids, maybe a Moon...but a Moon is not something he does with ease he looked pretty burnt out after that one
@Lance Uppercut
said:
" Has Billy, Powergirl, or Martian Manhunter gone toe to toe with Clark in the past? Because Adams done battle with all of them, and defeated them on numerous occasions. Seriously, go back to trolling sites that will actually listen to you. "
Billy has magic, Clark is vulnerable to magic Manhunter would destroy Superman, unless Superman has time to build a fire J'onn J'onzz can own him any number of ways going intangible when Superman attacks just mind wiping Superman Most of the JLA are outclassed by Manhunter Superman is not the lead hero its J'onn J'onzz but DC would prefer to keep her icon in front so Manhunter sometimes jobbers for the sake of PIS and poor story telling PowerGirl is a joke, her on pannel feats don't even put her near 1% the power of Superman. Even if we be extremly generus and give her 60% the power of Superman. She's still way behind on speed and durability and Superboy is always noted for holding back If Lex Luthor brawls with Superman does that automatically mean Luthor can physcially psuh 1 Third of the Earth? No Troll It does not
Again your A B C logic is meaningless
@Lance Uppercut
said:
" Because Adams done battle with all of them, and defeated them on numerous occasions. S "
Adam beating Manhunter in telepathic fight must be classed as PIS Therefore the entire comic can not be taken serious
Superman AND FRIENDS have moved planets, that's 3 people Pre Crisis Moved Planets, Current can not
When did I say he moved planets alone? I said no such thing in my post. I simply said he moved planets. This is still above any strength feat Thor has. And yes, Superman has in fact destroyed celestial bodies. Moons, asteroids, etc. Thank you for confirming this.
Billy has magic, Clark is vulnerable to magic
Judging by this statement, you haven't read a DC comic in years. I really don't have to reply to this anymore, especially since you apparently have no idea what you're talking about.
Manhunter would destroy Superman, unless Superman has time to build a fire
Another shining example of you not reading DC comics. Way to go.
If Lex Luthor brawls with Superman does that automatically mean Luthor can physcially psuh 1 Third of the Earth?
Superman has never lost to Luthor in physical combat without some sort of enhancement. He's needed Kryptonite, a set of armor, and even in the armor, he's has his head handed to him. IF he'd physically brawled with Superman and won on pure strength alone, then yes, he is stronger then Superman and thereby able to move 1/3 of the earth. But hey, who's ever heard of using logic? Not guys like OhTru and Batdance. Jesus, you're like a dumber Klandicar
Adam beating Manhunter in telepathic fight must be classed as PIS
Just because you want it to be PIS doesn't make it so. Once again, stop trolling and get with the program. Adam won this fight ages ago. He's faster then Thor, stronger then Thor, and far more brutal than Thor. Thor's had trouble with the Hulk and Hercules in the past. He'd need to be in warriors madness with the power gem, or have Odin Force to even think about competing with Adam.
" He'd need to be in warriors madness with the power gem "
Now I know you're completely trolling
The power Gem = Infinite Power
If he has the PowerGem he kills all the Avengers, all the JLA, until a guy like Phantom Stranger or Pre Crisis Darkseid steps up to take him down
I'm never surpised about the number of DC trolls here who bash anime, starwars, marvel comics, dbz etc but it shouldn't be surpsing since Methos and Buckshot admited to being DC biased and did a pretty crappy job on battle moderation from day one and allowed the "cool club" infestation to take place. I suspect as per usual SonofMagnus, Vance, DCMarvel1000, StaticShock, Creator, and yourself LaceUppercut will once again escape the ban button despite your trolling and despite breaking comicvine rules numerous times
" He'd need to be in warriors madness with the power gem "
Now I know you're completely trolling The power Gem = Infinite Power If he has the PowerGem he kills all the Avengers, all the JLA, until a guy like Phantom Stranger or Pre Crisis Darkseid steps up to take him down "
Thor didn't even know how to properly utilize it. Nor did Champion, or most of it's other wielders. If Thor had been using the full power of the gem, Thanos would have been killed in the first blow.
" Thor didn't even know how to properly utilize it. Nor did Champion, or most of it's other wielders. "
EPIC FAIL
and Champion is an Elder of the Universe
@BatDance said:
" @.Mistress Redhead. said:
" @BatDance: watch how your speak to users "
Yes I will watch myself from now on
But would you please like to 'Moderate' or will you prefer join the mob of trolls who bash me? The only reason I have been speaking this way is becuase I'm returning fire
I've been discreet enough to warn you by Pm when someone spams up your forum with NSFW posts, so now that you call me out in public Let me highlight a few pointers for you In public
Here's some examples highlighted
All in 1 day:
Thor vs Captain Marbles thread
@the creator
said:
"
Try getting the name right for the characters first off. It might help to convince that you actually have a brain to think with. "
DBZ vs Sentry thread
@Johnny_Nemesis
said:
" wow...DBZ fans get dumber every day
Seriously, I knew DBZ fans were generally brain dead, but wow...
DBZ is an inconsistent piece of crap "
Storm Selene thread
@Stormultt
said:
" @Caligula said:
"@Stormultt said:
"@Caligula: Why'd you come in the first place you have done nothing but bash the character's and yet failed at it. atleast there is a storm fan that isn't going around stating flase claim's on her. storm calling has shown the scan's and CLEARLY explained them wether or not you have wanted to believe it. It's desrespectful to treat anyone like that in the forum's when they are clearly debating and actually making sense when two idiot's are trying to tip-toe pass the main point's. YES SHE MANIPULATED THE GODDAMN AIR IN THE LUNG'S AND BP'S EAR! it was shown explained. goodbye SWEETHEART! "
This is exactly why I come to "STORM" threads, because all of her fans like yourself, over exaggerate her powers, and use rare shwings that you think back up claims to ludicrous statements. so now you know why I came to this thread. I always stop by the Storm threads to see how far you guys take her. with the way you guys pump her up you'd think she'd be in a better league than she is. Storm threads are comedy at it's best, it's like finding out Katt Williams is doing stand-up tonight, because you know both are gonna give you a good healthy laugh. and you have no clue how much I'm laughing at the crap you guys are spewing. "
Sweetheart when ever did i overexxagerate her powers? because i only stated one post on why she'd win i didn't over exagerrate and no im not spewing anything but truth and fact. YOU! are spewing nothing but hate for a fictional character which is pathetic. and no you stop by to talk s$&# about a character you obviously don't know s#$% about. You did the same in the superman vs marvelman thread wether it was a joke or not...YOUR a joke yourself. and just because i'm a storm fan doesn;t mean i dont have common sense which is what you don't have. You don't like storm? that's fine don't come trying to twist the panel's on scan's a logical storm fan is explaining clearly. Don't come down playing her abilities. In an ANY! case in any thread don't talk or even give an answer if you don't know anything. you have no credibility at ALL because you don;t do anything but go around talking about "storm fanboys are this and that". and crap like that im a storm fangirl but i know when my girl is beaten. Fix your self up hun and quit being pety and pathetic. k XD "
Champion Herc thread
@Vance Astro
said:
" WindCloud said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Hercules wins."
i thought you already said that.BTW, you look hot. If you really DO look anything like your icon pic, i would do you in a sec, even if you're a trans, or a C.D. LOL !!!"
Seriously..wtf is wrong with you? Does Vance Astro sound like a girls name to you? "
DBZ vs Manhunter
@SaiyanGodMax
said:
" who's making excuses?
you stupid f*cking troll
lol please just go back to trolling and saying how MM solos the dbzu...in fact why dont you just go make a thread titled..MMH vs the dbz universe "
Diana v Lobo
@Mort
said:
" Lobo would rape her "
That's just a 24 hour period Mistress Readhead, If you want to start and single out people who push and bend the vine rulebook I am far from alone in this matter Battles has been like this for a long time, I am not the only offender here The fanboyism and trolling is legendary on the vine "
im going with current thor because im a fan and i know what he can do but if someone can provide scans of BA i might change my mind because the only ones of him ive seen are him not scratching SBP
"im going with current thor because im a fan and i know what he can do but if someone can provide scans of BA i might change my mind because the only ones of him ive seen are him not scratching SBP "
No, this isn't a good match-up at all for Thor. Black Adam is vastly stronger, faster, more durable and is highly resistant to virtually every form of magic. He mopped the floor with Lord Marvel (a skyfather-leveler), took down Martian Manhunter in 2-3 shots, took down multiple Flashes at the same time and has taken on the entire JLA, JSA, Doom Patrol, etc. singlehandedly. You're probably already aware of his signature WWIII feat, and there are plenty of scans you can find of him on this site and on KMC.
Its funny how Black Adam gets Superman feats because he has fought guys on that level, yet Thor doesn't. Despite the fact that in a CANON comic Thor fought Superman and was shown to be on par. Why this bias? Thor can go toe to toe with this guy.
We could do a scan for scan thing, based solely on these characters, rather than any reflected glory or 'DC IZ ALWAYZ STRONGAH' bias people seem to have.
Anway, Thor is Lord of Thunder, giving him the un-Shazam powah. There are loads of things Mjolnir can do to take BA out. Infinity vortex, now this is 'science' based, so anyone saying BA is immune to magic can't complain. The hammer is faster than BA so it can catch him and pummel him. Mjolnir can drain his soul, teleport him, and i would wager that a balst that can make Galactus run away would work BA over something fierce.
" Its funny how Black Adam gets Superman feats because he has fought guys on that level, yet Thor doesn't. Despite the fact that in a CANON comic Thor fought Superman and was shown to be on par. Why this bias? Thor can go toe to toe with this guy. We could do a scan for scan thing, based solely on these characters, rather than any reflected glory or 'DC IZ ALWAYZ STRONGAH' bias people seem to have. Anway, Thor is Lord of Thunder, giving him the un-Shazam powah. There are loads of things Mjolnir can do to take BA out. Infinity vortex, now this is 'science' based, so anyone saying BA is immune to magic can't complain. The hammer is faster than BA so it can catch him and pummel him. Mjolnir can drain his soul, teleport him, and i would wager that a balst that can make Galactus run away would work BA over something fierce. "
Black Adam doesn't need Supermans feats, Adam fought nearly every major hero on Earth at once and they were barely able to stop him. That's why Thor dies in this fight, Adam is a team buster. Thor isn't and the fact that you are using that crossover makes me want to take what you say with a grain of salt. Also the fact that you think he can depower Adam further shows that you have no idea what you are talking about,.
The god blast took forver to charge up, good luck getting Adam to stand in one place long enough, also Mjolnir isn't faster then Adam either, Adam was able to keep up with Jay Garrick for a while despite his speed being drained.
" @Logic Mark III: you've convenced me Deff Thor wins"
He's a massive troll, so don't bother listening to him in the future. @FinalStar86 said:
" @Logic Mark III said:
" Its funny how Black Adam gets Superman feats because he has fought guys on that level, yet Thor doesn't. Despite the fact that in a CANON comic Thor fought Superman and was shown to be on par. Why this bias? Thor can go toe to toe with this guy. We could do a scan for scan thing, based solely on these characters, rather than any reflected glory or 'DC IZ ALWAYZ STRONGAH' bias people seem to have. Anway, Thor is Lord of Thunder, giving him the un-Shazam powah. There are loads of things Mjolnir can do to take BA out. Infinity vortex, now this is 'science' based, so anyone saying BA is immune to magic can't complain. The hammer is faster than BA so it can catch him and pummel him. Mjolnir can drain his soul, teleport him, and i would wager that a balst that can make Galactus run away would work BA over something fierce. "
Black Adam doesn't need Supermans feats, Adam fought nearly every major hero on Earth at once and they were barely able to stop him. That's why Thor dies in this fight, Adam is a team buster. Thor isn't and the fact that you are using that crossover makes me want to take what you say with a grain of salt. Also the fact that you think he can depower Adam further shows that you have no idea what you are talking about,. The god blast took forver to charge up, good luck getting Adam to stand in one place long enough, also Mjolnir isn't faster then Adam either, Adam was able to keep up with Jay Garrick for a while despite his speed being drained. "
@theiconic: Coming from the biggest Thor fan on the entire site (with the exception of Fresh Prince), no, he doesn't stand a chance. @FinalStar86 said:
" @theiconic said:
" @Logic Mark III: you've convenced me Deff Thor wins "
He is wrong and has no idea what he is talking about "
He's even stated that Thor and Gladiator are both stronger than Superman.
He's even stated that Thor and Gladiator are both stronger than Superman.
yea I'm a Thor fan too but i know Thor isnt physically stronger than Superman i mean i think in an all out fight thor and supes could go to a standstill maybe but i'll look up those BA scans but where did u say they were?
@bloodmist: silly bedweter stop trolling for black adam i say current thor does have a chance and would get his beat just like he did by red hulk? wow that's your best cheesy attack? good for you first off thor didin use the odinforce so it's even thor was holding back or it was pure bad writing and you know it plus last i check thor has face stronger opponents and won adam is nothing but a crazy nut job that get beaten by captain marvel yes captain marvel the guy that may i say lost to thor in the crossover even if crossover don't count it's even funner that in jla vs avengers crossover adam gets hit by mar-vell? i need to find it so anyways i only said it's in my opinion jesus man take it easy oh well i got better things to do have a nice day
@bloodmist: silly bedweter stop trolling for black adam i say current thor does have a chance and would get his beat just like he did by red hulk? wow that's your best cheesy attack? good for you first off thor didin use the odinforce so it's even thor was holding back or it was pure bad writing and you know it plus last i check thor has face stronger opponents and won adam is nothing but a crazy nut job that get beaten by captain marvel yes captain marvel the guy that may i say lost to thor in the crossover even if crossover don't count it's even funner that in jla vs avengers crossover adam gets hit by mar-vell? i need to find it so anyways i only said it's in my opinion jesus man take it easy oh well i got better things to do have a nice day
adam lose to CM? then how was he holding his own against Superman and CM together.
ok why do people assume superman and black adam being stronger (which i agree with, but not WAY stronger, if black adam was 10/10 then id give thor 8/10) and faster decide who wins? im not an expert on BA so if i am wrong, then i am sorry. but has Ba ever broken a planet? thor has. so to me in striking power thor>black adam. and for the speed thing couldn't mjolnir tag him? it is WAY faster than BA. mjolnir did a very silly feat of going around the (universe or galaxy, both very different, but still both are impressive) in 60 seconds? so mjolnir can tag adam.
btw for people comparing superman to thor, ive always thought they would stale mate. and what would make the MOST interesting fight would be... what if superman did not have super speed and thor's hammer was not enchanted? what happens then?
btw for people comparing superman to thor, ive always thought they would stale mate. and what would make the MOST interesting fight would be... what if superman did not have super speed and thor's hammer was not enchanted? what happens then?
That has been discussed many times in other threads. Use the search function. There have been many interesting discussion on the topic.
Thor lifted the world serpent which wrapped itself multiple times around the earth, has thrown the Twilight Sword through a Celestial and beat up the Surfer in a fight on Mars. He knocked theHulk into orbit and defeated two of The Worthy. In this fight, the one who fights better would win.
You do understand that it took a multitude of other magic users working in conjunction with Captain Marvel to accomplish that feat, right? "
not that one, marvel was possessed by Gluttony, so its just an irrelevant scan. "
Yeah he's been depowered a few times now sometimes easily, sometimes it takes a lot to depower him Anyway I douby he would take a planet busting shot to the face, Adam unlike Superman does not have the feats to his name. Plus Thor does not have Superman's weakness to magic
Thor should take wins by BFR or making BlackAdam turn mortal
in a slugfest I give it to Adam, Thor is kinda average at hand to hand, Herc and Wonder Woman do have good hand to hand feats but Thor does not
Hercules, Hulk etc have proven to be better brawlers than Thor
In hand 2 hand I say Black Adam dominates
with PIS off Thor can do the easy BFR move and open up a gateway throwing Black Adam into another dimension for a ring-out
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