" people its standARD biology if you are alive you have it "The DC Universe's nature does not use ki just like the DBZ Universe doesn't use I.E cosmic energy. Flash doesn't have ki because he is from the DC U and it does not use Chinese culture as a part of its universe's nature. Assuming that Flash has ki, he is too fast even if Goku could sense it, Flash would be moving to fast for Goku to sense it, Goku doesn't possess the right amount of speed needed to dodge anything from Flash. I.E Goku fights multiple opponents in the DBZ U and all of them have ki however he senses it but he doesn't dodge all of their attacks because some attacks are too fast, Flash would be the fastest being Goku has ever faced, Goku wouldn't be able to dodge anything from Flash. The DC U doesn't use Chinese culture as a part of the nature of their universe which is why Flash doesn't have ki.
FLASH VS GOKU
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"@vegeta said:" people its standARD biology if you are alive you have it "The DC Universe's nature does not use ki just like the DBZ Universe doesn't use I.E cosmic energy. Flash doesn't have ki because he is from the DC U and it does not use Chinese culture as a part of its universe's nature. Assuming that Flash has ki, he is too fast even if Goku could sense it, Flash would be moving to fast for Goku to sense it, Goku doesn't possess the right amount of speed needed to dodge anything from Flash. I.E Goku fights multiple opponents in the DBZ U and all of them have ki however he senses it but he doesn't dodge all of their attacks because some attacks are too fast, Flash would be the fastest being Goku has ever faced, Goku wouldn't be able to dodge anything from Flash. The DC U doesn't use Chinese culture as a part of the nature of their universe which is why Flash doesn't have ki. "
show me where dc dosnt use ki like stuff
" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force.
" @Theracles said:Show me where it does use ki because ki is from Chinese and Japanese culture and is only used there so obviously it is used in DBZ since it is a Japanese Anime."@vegeta said:show me where dc dosnt use ki like stuff "" people its standARD biology if you are alive you have it "The DC Universe's nature does not use ki just like the DBZ Universe doesn't use I.E cosmic energy. Flash doesn't have ki because he is from the DC U and it does not use Chinese culture as a part of its universe's nature. Assuming that Flash has ki, he is too fast even if Goku could sense it, Flash would be moving to fast for Goku to sense it, Goku doesn't possess the right amount of speed needed to dodge anything from Flash. I.E Goku fights multiple opponents in the DBZ U and all of them have ki however he senses it but he doesn't dodge all of their attacks because some attacks are too fast, Flash would be the fastest being Goku has ever faced, Goku wouldn't be able to dodge anything from Flash. The DC U doesn't use Chinese culture as a part of the nature of their universe which is why Flash doesn't have ki. "
"@vegeta said:" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force. "
your assuming goku starts on the ground he can power up in the air
" @Theracles said:The first post never specified that Goku starts in the air. If the fight begins on the ground then Flash takes but if it begins in the air, Goku takes it."@vegeta said:your assuming goku starts on the ground he can power up in the air "" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force. "
"@vegeta said:" @Theracles said:Show me where it does use ki because ki is from Chinese and Japanese culture and is only used there so obviously it is used in DBZ since it is a Japanese Anime. ""@vegeta said:show me where dc dosnt use ki like stuff "" people its standARD biology if you are alive you have it "The DC Universe's nature does not use ki just like the DBZ Universe doesn't use I.E cosmic energy. Flash doesn't have ki because he is from the DC U and it does not use Chinese culture as a part of its universe's nature. Assuming that Flash has ki, he is too fast even if Goku could sense it, Flash would be moving to fast for Goku to sense it, Goku doesn't possess the right amount of speed needed to dodge anything from Flash. I.E Goku fights multiple opponents in the DBZ U and all of them have ki however he senses it but he doesn't dodge all of their attacks because some attacks are too fast, Flash would be the fastest being Goku has ever faced, Goku wouldn't be able to dodge anything from Flash. The DC U doesn't use Chinese culture as a part of the nature of their universe which is why Flash doesn't have ki. "
marvel does and if you cant prove they dont then were in the same boat you cant say goku cant sense him
"@vegeta said:" @Theracles said:The first post never specified that Goku starts in the air. If the fight begins on the ground then Flash takes but if it begins in the air, Goku takes it. ""@vegeta said:your assuming goku starts on the ground he can power up in the air "" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force. "
common ground cool
"@Theracles said:"@vegeta said:your assuming goku starts on the ground he can power up in the air "" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force. "
If the fight starts on the ground, Goku will be defeated before he has time to fly up in the air.
The OP doesn't state where the fight starts.
" @Theracles said:We're not talking about Marvel, Marvel actually uses ki, we are talking about DC."@vegeta said:marvel does and if you cant prove they dont then were in the same boat you cant say goku cant sense him "" @Theracles said:Show me where it does use ki because ki is from Chinese and Japanese culture and is only used there so obviously it is used in DBZ since it is a Japanese Anime. ""@vegeta said:show me where dc dosnt use ki like stuff "" people its standARD biology if you are alive you have it "The DC Universe's nature does not use ki just like the DBZ Universe doesn't use I.E cosmic energy. Flash doesn't have ki because he is from the DC U and it does not use Chinese culture as a part of its universe's nature. Assuming that Flash has ki, he is too fast even if Goku could sense it, Flash would be moving to fast for Goku to sense it, Goku doesn't possess the right amount of speed needed to dodge anything from Flash. I.E Goku fights multiple opponents in the DBZ U and all of them have ki however he senses it but he doesn't dodge all of their attacks because some attacks are too fast, Flash would be the fastest being Goku has ever faced, Goku wouldn't be able to dodge anything from Flash. The DC U doesn't use Chinese culture as a part of the nature of their universe which is why Flash doesn't have ki. "
"@vegeta said:"@Theracles said:If the fight starts on the ground, Goku will be defeated before he has time to fly up in the air.The OP doesn't state where the fight starts. ""@vegeta said:your assuming goku starts on the ground he can power up in the air "" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force. "
it didnt say it started on the ground either
"@vegeta said:" @Theracles said:We're not talking about Marvel, Marvel actually uses ki, we are talking about DC. ""@vegeta said:marvel does and if you cant prove they dont then were in the same boat you cant say goku cant sense him "" @Theracles said:Show me where it does use ki because ki is from Chinese and Japanese culture and is only used there so obviously it is used in DBZ since it is a Japanese Anime. ""@vegeta said:show me where dc dosnt use ki like stuff "" people its standARD biology if you are alive you have it "The DC Universe's nature does not use ki just like the DBZ Universe doesn't use I.E cosmic energy. Flash doesn't have ki because he is from the DC U and it does not use Chinese culture as a part of its universe's nature. Assuming that Flash has ki, he is too fast even if Goku could sense it, Flash would be moving to fast for Goku to sense it, Goku doesn't possess the right amount of speed needed to dodge anything from Flash. I.E Goku fights multiple opponents in the DBZ U and all of them have ki however he senses it but he doesn't dodge all of their attacks because some attacks are too fast, Flash would be the fastest being Goku has ever faced, Goku wouldn't be able to dodge anything from Flash. The DC U doesn't use Chinese culture as a part of the nature of their universe which is why Flash doesn't have ki. "
like i said proof dc doesnt if not then were stalemated
" @Akwa said:It doesn't matter because most fights on threads are on land so we are assuming it is."@vegeta said:it didnt say it started on the ground either ""@Theracles said:If the fight starts on the ground, Goku will be defeated before he has time to fly up in the air.The OP doesn't state where the fight starts. ""@vegeta said:your assuming goku starts on the ground he can power up in the air "" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force. "
"@vegeta said:" @Akwa said:It doesn't matter because most fights on threads are on land so we are assuming it is. ""@vegeta said:it didnt say it started on the ground either ""@Theracles said:If the fight starts on the ground, Goku will be defeated before he has time to fly up in the air.The OP doesn't state where the fight starts. ""@vegeta said:your assuming goku starts on the ground he can power up in the air "" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force. "
your assuming so it could start in the air
" @Theracles said:Prove that it uses it then. I'll search for my answer and you search for yours."@vegeta said:like i said proof dc doesnt if not then were stalemated "" @Theracles said:We're not talking about Marvel, Marvel actually uses ki, we are talking about DC. ""@vegeta said:marvel does and if you cant prove they dont then were in the same boat you cant say goku cant sense him "" @Theracles said:Show me where it does use ki because ki is from Chinese and Japanese culture and is only used there so obviously it is used in DBZ since it is a Japanese Anime. ""@vegeta said:show me where dc dosnt use ki like stuff "" people its standARD biology if you are alive you have it "The DC Universe's nature does not use ki just like the DBZ Universe doesn't use I.E cosmic energy. Flash doesn't have ki because he is from the DC U and it does not use Chinese culture as a part of its universe's nature. Assuming that Flash has ki, he is too fast even if Goku could sense it, Flash would be moving to fast for Goku to sense it, Goku doesn't possess the right amount of speed needed to dodge anything from Flash. I.E Goku fights multiple opponents in the DBZ U and all of them have ki however he senses it but he doesn't dodge all of their attacks because some attacks are too fast, Flash would be the fastest being Goku has ever faced, Goku wouldn't be able to dodge anything from Flash. The DC U doesn't use Chinese culture as a part of the nature of their universe which is why Flash doesn't have ki. "
" @Theracles said:It could but we are assuming it is on land because it is more likely that it is."@vegeta said:your assuming so it could start in the air "" @Akwa said:It doesn't matter because most fights on threads are on land so we are assuming it is. ""@vegeta said:it didnt say it started on the ground either ""@Theracles said:If the fight starts on the ground, Goku will be defeated before he has time to fly up in the air.The OP doesn't state where the fight starts. ""@vegeta said:your assuming goku starts on the ground he can power up in the air "" plain and simple goku can power up and send flash flying bacwards "Goku won't be able to react because Flash is too fast he would have already attacked before Goku barely moved or moved at all. Ki is derived from Chi and it is only your life force in Chinese culture, it is not generally accepted to be your life force. "
"@vegeta said:" and as for the tornadoe thing to suck him out the air time he starts goku kamehameha down in the middle dead flash "Flash could simply stop and evade the attack considering his high speed. "
depends on how high up goku is if hes not that high a strong blast would be too wide to out the way and also the ezxplosion would be even wider and if he does doge it goku can control it and have it chase flash
Methos said it best
While is going aaaaAAAHHHHHHH
Flash could go home, eat a burrito, have sex with his wife, read the paper, then come back and defeat Goku by giving him an atomic wedgie and vibrating his fingers through his skull =]
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Yeah I know Buu would own if the speed force isn't used.
" @Theracles said:Goku can control his attacks but not a kamehameha wave we cannot assume that he can make it chase Flash because he has never shown that ability with a kamehameha. The shock wave may knock Flash off balance depending on how close he is but Flash is really fast and could be fast enough to simply evade and evade."@vegeta said:depends on how high up goku is if hes not that high a strong blast would be too wide to out the way and also the ezxplosion would be even wider and if he does doge it goku can control it and have it chase flash "" and as for the tornadoe thing to suck him out the air time he starts goku kamehameha down in the middle dead flash "Flash could simply stop and evade the attack considering his high speed. "
"@vegeta said:" @Theracles said:Goku can control his attacks but not a kamehameha wave we cannot assume that he can make it chase Flash because he has never shown that ability with a kamehameha. The shock wave may knock Flash off balance depending on how close he is but Flash is really fast and could be fast enough to simply evade and evade. ""@vegeta said:depends on how high up goku is if hes not that high a strong blast would be too wide to out the way and also the ezxplosion would be even wider and if he does doge it goku can control it and have it chase flash "" and as for the tornadoe thing to suck him out the air time he starts goku kamehameha down in the middle dead flash "Flash could simply stop and evade the attack considering his high speed. "
yes he can
"@Theracles said:"@vegeta said:yes he can "" @Theracles said:Goku can control his attacks but not a kamehameha wave we cannot assume that he can make it chase Flash because he has never shown that ability with a kamehameha. The shock wave may knock Flash off balance depending on how close he is but Flash is really fast and could be fast enough to simply evade and evade. ""@vegeta said:depends on how high up goku is if hes not that high a strong blast would be too wide to out the way and also the ezxplosion would be even wider and if he does doge it goku can control it and have it chase flash "" and as for the tornadoe thing to suck him out the air time he starts goku kamehameha down in the middle dead flash "Flash could simply stop and evade the attack considering his high speed. "
All goku would have to do is wait for Flash to attempt to bring him to the ground and his shot would be open. Goku doesnt need to power up to fight Flash, he's more than powerful enough without it.
" @vegeta said:A shot that even from point blank range, the Flash could dodge."@Theracles said:All goku would have to do is wait for Flash to attempt to bring him to the ground and his shot would be open. Goku doesnt need to power up to fight Flash, he's more than powerful enough without it. ""@vegeta said:yes he can "" @Theracles said:Goku can control his attacks but not a kamehameha wave we cannot assume that he can make it chase Flash because he has never shown that ability with a kamehameha. The shock wave may knock Flash off balance depending on how close he is but Flash is really fast and could be fast enough to simply evade and evade. ""@vegeta said:depends on how high up goku is if hes not that high a strong blast would be too wide to out the way and also the ezxplosion would be even wider and if he does doge it goku can control it and have it chase flash "" and as for the tornadoe thing to suck him out the air time he starts goku kamehameha down in the middle dead flash "Flash could simply stop and evade the attack considering his high speed. "
"@randumo24 said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:fool how can Goku dictate a fight with flash?""@randumo24 said:lol what a clever retort. Goku wins because he is more powerful, and can dictate the fight. ""Goku wins here "goku won't win "
you're the fool, go and read what i said before. Goku can fly, flash can not. Goku dicates the fight from the air since Flash can't fly, any attempt Flash makes to get Goku out of the air will leave him vulnerable. Flash does not have the durability to take on any of Goku's attacks.
"@Wisppeons said:sad sad DBZ fanboy."@randumo24 said:you're the fool, go and read what i said before. Goku can fly, flash can not. Goku dicates the fight from the air since Flash can't fly, any attempt Flash makes to get Goku out of the air will leave him vulnerable. Flash does not have the durability to take on any of Goku's attacks. ""@DC_Marvel_1000 said:fool how can Goku dictate a fight with flash?""@randumo24 said:lol what a clever retort. Goku wins because he is more powerful, and can dictate the fight. ""Goku wins here "goku won't win "
" @Theracles said:Prove it."@vegeta said:yes he can "" @Theracles said:Goku can control his attacks but not a kamehameha wave we cannot assume that he can make it chase Flash because he has never shown that ability with a kamehameha. The shock wave may knock Flash off balance depending on how close he is but Flash is really fast and could be fast enough to simply evade and evade. ""@vegeta said:depends on how high up goku is if hes not that high a strong blast would be too wide to out the way and also the ezxplosion would be even wider and if he does doge it goku can control it and have it chase flash "" and as for the tornadoe thing to suck him out the air time he starts goku kamehameha down in the middle dead flash "Flash could simply stop and evade the attack considering his high speed. "
"@vegeta said:"@Theracles said:All goku would have to do is wait for Flash to attempt to bring him to the ground and his shot would be open. Goku doesnt need to power up to fight Flash, he's more than powerful enough without it. ""@vegeta said:yes he can "" @Theracles said:Goku can control his attacks but not a kamehameha wave we cannot assume that he can make it chase Flash because he has never shown that ability with a kamehameha. The shock wave may knock Flash off balance depending on how close he is but Flash is really fast and could be fast enough to simply evade and evade. ""@vegeta said:depends on how high up goku is if hes not that high a strong blast would be too wide to out the way and also the ezxplosion would be even wider and if he does doge it goku can control it and have it chase flash "" and as for the tornadoe thing to suck him out the air time he starts goku kamehameha down in the middle dead flash "Flash could simply stop and evade the attack considering his high speed. "
not fast enough without poweredup but to knock flash out no he needs none
One hit would be all it would take for Goku to Knock out/kill The Flash. However barring some MAJOR pis/cis he would never be able to land that hit.
By the time Goku's arm is raised more than an inch to shoot that blast he could of been hit in the head with hundreds if not thousands of infinite mass punches. Goku has LOTS of attacks that could kill Flash, problem is that he would be like an arthritic statue from The Flash's view point.
"By the time Goku's arm is raised more than an inch to shoot that blast he could of been hit in the head with hundreds if not thousands of infinite mass punches. Goku has LOTS of attacks that could kill Flash, problem is that he would be like an arthritic statue from The Flash's view point."
He'll jsut destroy the planet they are both on, and Goku can survive on so he would win. But flash allow him to do such a thing?
Well if he's in the air none of his blasts would land, he would eventually run out of Ki and have to come back down to earth, if it starts on the ground he wouldn't have time to get in the air. Also infinite mass is more than enough to take out a mountain, The potential energy of something with more mass than the entire universe is beyond ridiculous...it's like...infinite and stuff 8-]
"@Do I have to give a name? said:"One hit would be all it would take for Goku to Knock out/kill The Flash. However barring some MAJOR pis/cis he would never be able to land that hit."shoot ablast while flash dodges goku intstant transmits in front and clotheslines him "
Thing is Flash is impossibly fast, he would be able to see Goku beginning to rematerialize from the instant transmission, and dodge it, truth be told he could do a lot more than dodge it too. How about holding his arm out and vibrating his molecules so that Goku re appears with flash's hand reaching into his brain?, or running round enough to create a vortex with the atmosphere sucked out so that Goku reamerges into a vacuam and dies of oxygen starvation? or the good old fasioned punch him into a pink paste? (out of character I know, but still within his abilities)
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