RudeBomberBoy01

@redatom1234:

oh good, you've gone back to calling them featless,that's fine, if u think they're featless then I can't change your mind

Look, I wouldn't call them featless, if they weren't featless. What are Black Adam's striking feats? How strong are Green Lantern's constructs? What are Deathstroke's strength feats? They are unknown, the characters ARE featless.

but tell me what advantages does Thor have

Better striking power, fighting people with actual quantifiable power, funnily enough, better strength feats, better reaction feats. Basically, better everything apart from flight speed.

(and not that bridge one,that has factors that come into play and even then Loki survived that)

What's wrong with Loki surviving the explosion?

and how you think the battle goes down

I believe the character with the better feats win. Seriously, Superman has 1 minute on-screen combat time beating on featless characters and all of a sudden, he's going to one-shot Thor now? None of you at least think that is being unreasonable?

Again, your calculations and points are completely made up. How fast was he moving in space? You do not know. What we do know is the damage output from his "omgwtfbbq speedblitzzzx100" is piss-poor and not something that would bother Thor too much.

Is that your one and only argument?

@redatom1234:

see that's the thing, you keep claiming he's featless when we are putting things in front of you, maybe its not like MCU thor where he hits the ground or takes damage every five minutes, the little in that trailer that we have to go off of can tell us what his power is like and how he uses it

Alright, let's get to your reasoning.

-black adam was getting hit by lantern through buildings and took the AOE blast., but supes heat vision kills him instantly

Not only is Black Adam featless in the strength department, his durability is also inconsistent - one minute he's getting knocked out unconscious from hitting the ground at high speeds, and the next he's summoning massive AoE blasts. He also never got knocked through buildings.

-superman reacts to adam's speedblitz

If "react" is what you'd like to call totally getting tagged then sure, shoot.

tanks his hits which were causing cars to fly up

Yeah this would be impressive if Thor didn't have striking feats which blow Adam's feats out of the water.

note that black adam was one shotting lanterns constructs and pinning him down

Featless Lantern with featless constructs with zero feats that is.

-superman makes it from the sun to earth in seconds, if you actually look at the trailer then you could determine how close he was

He was nowhere near the sun. And you cannot determine how close he was.

-after taking a speedblitz, lex gets back up, looking nearly unharmed, superman easily tears through the armour then knocks lex back some more, note,

You did see the damage from Superman's supposedly "millions of MPH speedblitz" right? I mean, even MCU Iron Man has durability feats above that damage output.

this is the same armour Diana was held down by

Featless Dianna with zero strength feat that is.

-superman's morals are loose in this, whats to say he doesn't snap thor's neck?

Actual strength feats.

-supes tanked lex's blast which look somewhat similar to what the avengers always seem to be dodging(granted not a credible feat, but a feat nonetheless)

Featless Lex's blasts. Seeing a trend?

this is all after his long fought battle with lex and the society, at full power he stomps, at this power level, im inclined to say he still stomps.

In your opinion right?

now what have you shown us? iron man feats, but see the thing is, even though thor was breaking the armour, iron man was almost fighting even with him.

If you call fighting even where your opponent is undamaged after everything you try and you have to go to the repair shop after the battle is over then shoot. Go for it.

has thor himself shown any credible durability

speed feats that actually prevent supes from killing him off the bat?

The featless character will kill the character who survived a mountain busting explosion to the face? Yeah... right.

thor was getting knocked down by ultron who cap was keeping up with

Vibranium Ultron =/= MK 2 Ultron.

im not trying to pick at his low end showings, im just trying to get a point across.

Seems like you are. Not only are you wrojng about your point, but what does "thor was getting knocked down by ultron who cap was keeping up with" sound like to you? Or what are you trying to imply? That Thor was getting knocked down by characters on Captain America's level?

now, will you actually see both sides of the argument or are you gonna keep claiming he's featless?

How can I see both sides when one side is completely featless?

superman stomps. redatom out

You might want to come back.

@nomar

It has a track record of being reacted to by anybody with a name and all of them are immensely slower than this Supes.

Yeah and what are Superman's reaction feats again? Refresh my memory, I think I forgot.

No, my actual argument is showing you his supposedly "millions of MPH speed blitz."

A Superman with bloodied eyes who was screaming "you do not deserve to live" and just killed off Black Adam will totally not hit Luthor at his highest speed(!)... because you said so. Obviously.

Again, on-screen showings >>> anything you say.

Thor still beats the featless character.

@spiralnights:

You're ignoring my point. My answer to everything you're saying is "Superman flies into him at a million miles per hour. Thor dies before he can perform any action." The effect would indeed by similar to a nuclear explosion because physics of speed x mass dictates it. If you need a calc...

Superman weight: ~107kg

Superman speed (based on video): At least 2000 miles in 2 seconds = 1,609,344 meters/second

Superman kinetic energy: 1/2 m x v^2 = 138 terajoules (rounded down)

Hiroshima atomic bomb energy: 54-75 terajoules

Please show a feat that shows how Thor survive this. Any other argument will be ignored.

And of course.

This:

is completely nuclear(!) I mean, it wiped out the entire city did it not?

Gimmie a break.

@redatom1234:

Cuz if you did, then you would notice that superman isn't featless, he may not have all the feats that we can put to him, but he has the important ones. The ones that make me believe he could win this battle

Pray tell which ones.

And when I say featless, I mean in regards to just how powerful he is. He is so featless, you cannot even use ABC logic to guage his powerlevels because all of the DCUO characters are featless.

@spiralnights:

Superman in the video is not featless.

He... kinda is.

The "made up flight numbers" are based on the clip of him flying thousands of miles around the world in the span of 2 seconds, which equates to him flying millions of miles per hour.

So, made up numbers then? Also, flying into the camera in space =/= circling the globe.

You continue to bring up striking feats and reaction feats, when none of this matters.

Except it does.

Your average football player would get decimated by Bruce Lee. However, all the martial arts experience and striking power Bruce Lee has won't make a difference if the football player can bum rush him at over a million miles per hour from hundreds of miles away.

This is assuming Bruce Lee is fragile and doesn't have the durability feats to tank the said attack.

Yes, because it is the same Thor who hid from bullets and was checking for blood after being thrown through a wall.

Thor was tanking Iron Man's blows (which have ripped through Chobham armour in the past) like they were nothing. I'm pretty sure Iron Man's fists >> armour piercing bullets, plus Thor got hit by the quinjet's cannons, that didn't seem to affect him at all. Oh and while you were busy low-balling, you forgot to mention that other time where Thor survives a 30000' drop with no scratches.

A "mountain busting explosion" implies that the vast majority of the power of the explosion went into busting the mountain, and not Thor himself. Guess how much energy from a flying bull rush will go into Thor? Pretty close to 100%.

He was right at the brink of the explosion, spin it however you want, DCUO Superman cannot replicate that type of damage output.

Moving millions of miles per hour while circling the globe means he can react/calculate fast enough to avoid any space debris/satellites. If he could not react fast enough, then even miscalculating his speed or direction for even a fraction of a second would land him hundreds of miles away from where he was traveling. Imagine driving through a city at mach 10,000 without hitting anything. I would think someone who can do this could dodge a subsonic hammer throw... assuming Thor actually had enough time to throw the hammer to begin with.

Congratulations, Iron Man and Thor are now hypersonic fighters with hypersonic+ reaction speed -___-

He has zero rection feats and everything that tried to tag him, tagged him. Refer back to my Usain Bolt vs Bruce Lee question.

Yes. Aside from the fact that Thor tanked the small part of the explosion that would've touched him, a bull rush at the speed Superman moved at would have more energy than a nuke, with Thor receiving nearly all of the force.

Yeah, "millions of MPH"/"more energy than a nuke" my a$$....

*sigh*

It doesn't really matter if he absorbed 25% or even 100%, as he was still incapacitated. Superman will hit just as hard, if not harder. On the other hand, here are the things we know will hurt/stagger Thor:

Based on nothing but your own imaginations I'm guessing?

1. Strikes from Iron Man, someone who is in the <100 ton range.

Right, ignoring his striking power capable of punching holes through Chobham armour:

Tony ramming Thor into the side of a mountain and scapping his face all over it had pretty much no effect on him or whatsoever:

I find it funny how you call Iron Man <100 ton range, but you have zero proof Clark is even in the 20 ton range for strength.

2. Fall from the flying airship. Possibly fatal to Thor.

Except from the part where, you know, he actually survives the fall?

3. Being thrown through one concrete/metal wall, but less than 5 walls.

Ignoring other instances where he ploughed through a steel wall like nothing, and I would place surviving a barrage of punches from Kurse higher than getting thrown through walls.

4. Blast from the Destroyer, which is a multi-car level blast. Was strong enough to warrant Thor deflecting instead of tanking.

I see it more as a reaction feat than anything else, Thor ended up flying though the blast with Mjolnir at the end.

All of these are less than nuclear level, which is what Thor would need to have a chance of surviving a Superman bull rush.

DCUO Superman is now nuclear level? Good gawd!

The fact that people are trying to argue with a character with literally 1 minute of screen time is amusing.

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*sigh* well I tried. You can't reason with those who will not listen to reason.

Thor still beats the featless character.

@egyptian_god_ra:

Yea its just best I ignore him which is what I will do, he lacks common sense and uses this type of flawed logic that : if a dog is shown a feat of running fast, and a cheetah is not shown running, then the dog is automatically faster than the cheetah, just cuz its speed was shown and the cheetah's speed was not shown, so the dog is faster to him, when its obvious that the cheetah is much faster than a dog -___-

Your analogy is flawed because we already know what both animals are capable of. I have no troubles believeing Superman is faster than Thor, in flight speed and straigh lined blitz'es. What I have trouble believing is that he has this type of combat speed:

He never displayed it so you cannot assume he can.

Let's try this again shall we? Seeing how your go-to argument is using the Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam fallacy, and seeing how you ignored the point I brought up with the Hulk and MoS Superman, I'll ask you one simple question.

Who is faster in H2H combat, Bruce Lee, or Usain Bolt?

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While you're busy answering that, I'll ask a couple more questions.

1.

What are DCUO Superman's strength/striking feats? Will he be able to overpower Thor? If so, why? Is his damage output higher than this?

Because Thor had no trouble tanking that massive explosion. Can Superman's damage output top that?

2.

What durability feats does he have to suggest he'd be able to take Thor's high-end strikes?

3.

What are his reaction feats? Does he have any feats that would suggest he could dodge Thor's strikes or hammer throws?

These are very simple questions.

Yep, its not really fast, somehow he is under the impression that MCU Mjolnir is fast lol but truth is this DCUO Superman's flight speed >>>>>>>>> MCU Mjolnir's speed

I am not "under the impression. Unlike you, I do not pull things out of thin air.

oh man, you guys hit the nail right on its head ^^ now why didn't I think of that ? Superman can easily just kill Thor by flying into him at those insane speeds, and Thor can't and has never reacted to and dodged or survived anything as fast as those insane high speeds which Superman went, so yes DCOU Superman can indeed easily beat Thor with that feat he showed, just fly into him at millions of MPH killing him

Yeah, Thor was the guy who survived a mountain busting explosion to the face and only got knocked out as a result. Now I'm supposed to believe the featless character with completely made up flight numbers will "kill" Thor?

Now instead of baiting and throwing petty, pathetic insults, why not grow up and try to refute the points brought forth? Or are you simply incapable?