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#1  Edited By RudeBomberBoy01
@thecybr0g said:

@m_man: Your passive-aggressiveness is frustrating me more than the actual debate. I think I'll call it quits. It was fun while it lasted, and thanks for your time.

EDIT: Last remark wasn't intended to be my attempt at being passive-aggressive or anything, it really was fun.

Yeah, don't take things too personal, as long as he doesn't start throwing explicit personal insults/attacks or belittling your intelligence, I think it's all good. You can always just *cross things you believe aren't relevant to the discussion out* and carry on with your points, this makes debating neater and straight to the point.

Both of you had good points anyways, it was fun to read.

To address a point you brought up about Nam-Ek's one on one encounter with Clark, Nam-Ek never had the upperhand in their 1v1 fight. Without Faora as back up, Clark kinda wrecked Nam-Ek.

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@christianrapper:

the fact that he will just copy the sentry's powers will stop that.

Is that before or after Sentry blitzes the crap out of him/disintegrates him?

he is already massively more powerful than the sentry.

Massively more powerful? No. He copied powers from characters who are literally below comic Iron Man in power level and feats, let alone regular Sentry, or DS Sentry. Besides, didn't he have trouble trying to copy Grundy's chaos magic powers?

it's a stomp when you add the sentry's powers with the powers amazo already has.

Stomp? What is he going to do to Sentry? Teleport him? Shrink him? Seriously, what can JLU Amazo do?

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#3  Edited By RudeBomberBoy01

@christianrapper:

he also has the feat of being to copy anyone's powers. he will have all the justice league's powers plus sentry's. that's why it's a stomp. dss is massively out classed. it will be like sentry fighting the entire justice league and himself at the same time.

I don't see how copying JLU powers is impressive when comic Iron Man >>>>>>>>>>>>> cartoon JLU combined. Just because he's copied the weaksauce JLU doesn't stop him from getting disintegrated by Sentry.

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Honestly, I see James doing just this

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Again, the only feats this Amazo has is beating on a severely nerfed, almost featless JLU characters comic Iron Man would solo, teleporting people/things and shrinking. Literally no one can give a coherent argument on how Amazo will beat Sentry, except from yelling 'Amazo stomps because he beat crappy cartoon JLU'.

I have no idea how having the ability to teleport and shrink things all of a sudden grants you the power to beat a character with multi planet+ strength/durability/matter manipulation and energy output.

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#6  Edited By RudeBomberBoy01

@spider-manwins: Just a note. Ultron's lasers either killed or seriously wounded Dr. Cho if my memory is correct. Also that version of Ultron removed Klaw's hand with very little effort.

It really was for plot lol. The lasers wonded an important character just about enough to get her to reveal the bad guy's plans... But the lasers against other human beings who aren't part of the main cast such as the train driver? It had no trouble one-shotting and killing him on the spot.

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@spider-manwins:

wasnt killain like halfed destroyed and lived?

Only to be destroyed again.

he can take a potent explosion

ultron doesnt have any bombs on him. his laser can even leave burn marks on a suit

so his lasers are useless

He doesn't need bombs to be able to penetrate through Killian's body. His lasers/blade are enough.

his brute strength is questionable

True, but Ultron was able to overpower Captain America, I think that is enough.

and his matter manipulation may be the only factor here, aside from his durability

Matter manipulation? You mean his TK? Yes, it will be a problem if Ultron decides to start throwing things at Killian.

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#8  Edited By RudeBomberBoy01

@spider-manwins:

i got nothing for you. Ultron = whack end of story

This is your opinion unfortunately, and sadly, it is not an argument that can be used in this thread.

heck his "ultimate form" lost within 2 seconds

To characters who will use Killian as a toothpick to pick meat off their teeth.

killain has a regen factor

So did the other Extremis thugs. They might have regenerative abilities, but their durability is almost human, they are not bulletproof and can be cut by steel blades.

Killian literally broke his hand just trading blows with Iron Man:

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Iron Man's prototype suit was able to blast a hole through one's heart, killing him instantly.

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It seems they cannot regenerate vital organs, so Ultron should be capable of replicating the same feat with his energy output. Cutting off Killian's head should suffice.

im not saying killian would win in a stomp

just if ultron gets close, which he always does, he'd lose

Not really, he could blast him, speed tackle him like he did to Thor, drop a huge boulder/brick wall like his did to Thor and attempted on Natasha. There are many ways Ultron can win this.

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#9  Edited By RudeBomberBoy01

@spider-manwins:

he landed one punch, and it didnt even remotely leave any damage

Yes, Captain America is durable. What were you expecting?

because what i saw was cap walking,talking,fighting fine right after

Refer back to my first point.

if the villain is poop, its not a good feat at all

This is not an argument, and it is subjective at best. You thought the villain was 'poop', I thought he was decent at best.

prior to this, ultron had no remarkable feats except jobbing

Losing to Iron Man is not 'jobbing'.

i saw the bullets bouncing off of him which is cool. so hes bullet proof, just like the armors that were instantly melted by killian

Good point, but what's stopping Ultron from dropping a huge boulder on top of Killian, or chopping his head off with his blade?

cap had ultron in the chokehold for a couple of seconds. the fact he even got that into him is beyond pathetic already.

This is the guy who throws motocycles for a living :D

Seriously though, he got out of it instantly and put him in the reverse situation, Steve was unable to do anything until Natasha came to his aid, or did you forget that part?

If killian got him like, ultron died by being melted.

Yeah by the combination of Thor's lightning, Iron Man's repulsor blasts and Vision's mid gem, all bombarding him with heat Killian can only dream of replicating.

The OP said we're not to use the Vibranium version, but the version prior to that.

obviosuly hes too dumb to even use his flight advantage.

He did, Steve was just too agile, and he has used flight in his previous fight, hell, he used flight in almost all his fights.

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please name one single hit that made cap fall back in agony or something similar

Check back to my previous reply to you, the video I posed clearly demonstrates what you're asking for.

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#10  Edited By RudeBomberBoy01

@spider-manwins:

Don't let your hate for the portrayal of Ultron cloud your judgement.

all i saw was cap fight as his best, unphased by most of ultrons attack while ultron was being ragdolled

Was that what you saw? I saw the opposite.

1. cap punched him through a concrete pillar

Correction: Steve threw him through a pillar, which he shurgs off like it never happened.

2.avoided 90% of what ultron did to him

Captain America IS agile, he's the dude who dodges point blank gun fire and lasers. You can't fault Ultron for having trouble tagging him. The dude was doing karate martial arts kung fu flips all over the place, literally dodging Ultron's bulrushes.

3. put him in a chokehold

Which he instantly reversed, putting Steve in the reverse situation where he had to be saved by Natasha. Plus, Steve is NOT weak.

4. pierced him

By kicking his Vibranium shield into him. I'm sure you are aware of Steve's other feats with his shield.

Seriously, did you not see the barrage of quinjet cannons bouncing off of Ultron, or did you just focus on Captain America kicking a Vibranium shield into his chest?

5.stalled him long enough for street levelers to steal vision from him

Yeah, and that is an incredible feat... for Steve.

case and point, cap didnt even have injuries at the end of the day

ultron lost vision

cap wins

Really? What position was Captain America in before Quicksilver/Wanda arrived?

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