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My only question is why did God put Adam and Eve next to a goddamn tree with a serpent?

I mean the all powerful, all knowing God should have realized that putting his newly, innocent creations next to something dangerous might not be the best idea.  So was Eve really to blame here?  Does society blame a child for shooting someone if the parent leaves the gun lying around the living room?  Are we saying that a common man/women has more sense than an all powerful God?  God might be all knowing, all powerful, but his planning suck.   
 
Also, why did God get mad at people building the Tower of Babel and not at our attempt to go to the moon?  Guess it's cool if it's not a tower, or maybe 2012 will be the day he decides to do something.

Ok I asked more than one question, bleh.       

Good thread, I'm all about constructive critism!  Someone give me some advices where I can improve so I can become a more effective debater. 

"The comic version was also written by Jeph Loeb.... " 
 

 
How convenient,

-First, you have no authority to judge a comic author's credibility.  DC had given permission for the author to publish this piece of work so they obviously did not see any discrepancy. 
 
-Second, judging logic based on how good a storyline ......Batman dodging Superman.  So many selected idiocy, so many logic fallancy.  It seems that logic only applies if it support one's perspective, /facepalm.   

@AtPhantom said:

" @forze: I'm not saying he has a weakness, I'm saying he has the same vulnerability like every other freaking living being. You don't have an immunity to soul attacks unless it's specifically mentioned. No one does. Maybe try and think through your argument before calling other people's arguments stupid.  Second, Magic is by definition an unexplainable laws of physics breaking force. That's the definition it has in DC universe, so whatever Arthur Clark said about advanced technology has no merit here. Manhattan can't bypass magic. Simple as that. "

There you go again, making ridiculous assumption.  You keep saying that if something has not happen, then the alternate must only point to ONE conclusion.  Logic is based on known fact, you cannot have logic if theres no fact to use.  Soul attack may or may not vary from character to character, assumming that everyone is vulnarable because the latter is unknown is logic fallancy.   

My previous statement was not meant to be a personal attack. 

Ok, since I think credits need to be given to those who deserves it in my opinion.  I have put people that I have enjoyed reading whenever these people are debating, I'am not going to be giving rating as I find that rating vary from character to character. 
 
Gambler 
Erik 
Buckshot 
Static Shock 
vuviper  
Morpheus 
SlimJ87D 

Tevnoba 
 PheonixofTheBlackThrone (something like that) 
 
The criteria for the above names are determined by logical argument as well as reasoning.  Note that the list above are bias in nature and should not be taken as anything but of my own interpretation of sound reasoning, logical deduction, and creative use of sources.

Presuming Dr. M has a weakness because A has not been proven yet is one of the stupidiest logical argument I have ever heard, this logic implies that if one is not true the other must be(/facepalm)?  Dr. M controls the very forces that governs the atoms which is supported by the way he materializes object without any form of reactions.  This is supported by the electron to electron interactions between molecules.  The amount of energies released to combine or discharged to disassemble molecular electrons is proportionally enormous as one tries to break away an electron outside of the valance orbital.  If Dr. M simply controls these molecules, we would see energy discharges in forms of explosions as he forms and reforms molecules because removing electrons from the core orbital of a molecule is exponentially great.  However, no such reactions occur so it is logical to say that he can change the very nature of the forces that govern molecules which is the strong nuclear force.  If anyone needs proof of this, we only have to look at  Einstein famous equation E=mc^2 to predict the mass to energy conversion as a result of fission to form a chain reaction using U235 molecules which was proven by the two nuclear bombs used during WWII to be dangerously powerful.  Another example would be our very sun which uses fusion to maintain its energy level by combining hydrogens together which sustain its energy level.   
 
The very fact that Dr. M not only can teleport himself but other people shows how remarkable his command of molecules are because he has to recombine molecules together to form the bodies of every individuals he teleported in another space.  Simply put, there are two ways he can do these feats; first, he can disassemble a body to its molecular components and reassemble them elsewhere or second, he could create wormholes which would require massive energy.  The former is more likely given his power is not based on magic and how he explain how he put himself together which would require an extensive amount of knowledge of how human bodies (and the mind) is put together at a molecular level which he has demostrated countless times during the novel.   
 
Another logical fallancy is the assumption that his power cannot work against magic.  There is a saying that any technology advance enough can appear magical in nature because of the lack of understanding regarding the technology.  However, history has showed us that what we perceived as magic in nature has an explination, I believe this subject is no different.  Given that Dr. M can witness the interactions between molecules, it is not a stretch to deduct that he can see how every molecules are interacting in Captain Marvel's body and simply changing the forces that governs those molecules can have an adverse affect, even lethal to Captain Marvel's well being.  Also, given the nature of Dr. M ability to exist simultaniously in every time period in his point of view, we can logically assume that anything he states (like creating life) of doing are true and can be used as feat of his abilities. 
 
I have argued on behalf of Dr. M time and time again because the graphic novel clearly implied that he has no clear limitation of his power and a bit of understanding on how molecules interact with each other can help understand where I'm from.  Yet, people assume that he cannot do certain things but if one thinks for a second, Dr. M can simply mimic the nuclear fussion of our sun to cause energy release more massive than anyone can imagine.  His display of power are discreet, yet it shows the implication of something more powerful than what it lets on.  I will not say that he clearly wins this, because I do not understand Captain Marvel's power simply because it's magic.  However, magic or not, Captain Marvel is still made of molecules which Dr. M has complete control of.