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@dangerousloki: Ill get to this tomoroow its late :p. Also the title of this thread is Variant 1 will there be a second ? I like this idea alot!

That's the plan. Though each of the variants focuses on different aspects. Variant 1s will be like this. Coming up with a strategy for a precise goal. The other variants will have different objectives and concepts. I'm still tinkering with the conceptions.

@dangerousloki: Thank you. I actually was trying to figure out Gog's plan originally, but it relied to much on pawns. So I just went Gog+buffs for myself+temporal perception.

Gosh, that's probably my favorite post-Zero hour, pre-IC arc that DC did. And then IC happened, and we didn't get to finish Gog's arc before he was retconned away :(

Can't say I read it. And thank you. I'm rather enjoying this response so far.

Ok here's a question people..... Should I add Aquaman? I knew I was forgetting one major Leaguer but I couldn't remember whom until just now. Would adding him make things more interesting?

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Another good strategy. Supes should still hear the sniper shot. His hearing is sensitive enough to pick it out even in the midst of the other gun fire. But you could probably take him with the mystical fire and sword. But that would tip your hand to the other league members. They'd be on alert. Especially if you got to Billy. You'd have to act before they had chance to know about each instance and given the communications network they have that'd be hard, even with Flash's speed. Even without distracting Barry you could probably take him in a fight. Hal is difficult. I'm not sure how often he takes off his ring so you could succeed with this one.. Though again.. he might be on alert by this point. Wonder Woman might be able to match you. She's a challenge for Supes and could probably not match but respond to the speed. But if Hal, Barry, or Billy manage to survive past your initial strategem to the final show down I think Wonder Woman and any of them could probably take you. Much like with the Juggernaut helmet, if the Magneto helmet gets taken off. You're exposed to psionic assault, so while WW might not be able to do it on her own, with assistance she could manage.

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@the_imperator: I think this is the first certified victory I see. I have no counters to your strategy. Others may see things I don't. But this is a spiffy plan. Time manipulation is a beast. Great work.

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Alright, here is my strategy:

Powers:

  • Geass of absolute Control
  • Control over technology
  • Trion Juggernaut durability
  • Shadowcat's intangibility
  • Hulk's strength (and it's rage based increase)

In lex's lab, i will have him build me 3 gadgets:

  • A suit of armor (think extremist iron man) that lets me change how i look
  • A teleporter device that allows me to get onto the JLA watchtower (as well as do short range teleportation)
  • A helmet (like magneto's) that gives me tp resistance

i also get some kryptonite from lex

I disguise my self to look like one of the jla members (lets say, green arrow) and i teleport myself into the watch tower. I use my control over technology to locate every member and shut down defense capabilities the watch tower might have. I find batman and green arrow and use my geass, giving them the command "You will do everything in your power to assist me in killing the members of the justice leage. You will make sure i survive and obey any command i give you. When all other members are dead, you will kill yourselves". I have batman and green arrow work together to initiate that contingency plan batman had against the league.

While they are working on that, i will find the flash and give him the same command. Once ready, batman, green arrow, and the flash will call together the leage. as soon as everyone enters the room to talk, my three man team (bat's, arrow, and flash) ambush them all. I begin to pummle people like wonder woman and captain mavle while batman uses my kryptonite to weaken superman.

i use my intangibility to avoid all damage while i take down the team through brute force and having the team turn against itself

i can also use my technology control to crash the watch tower into earth as a last resort.

Now that is a plan. If I remember correctly however, the geass only works once? It can't be used on the same person more then once? I only watched a few episodes but I remember that being a thing. Forgive me if I'm mistaken. If that's the case. All it takes is Manhunter realizing their minds have been tampered and he'd probably be able to break them out of it. I'm not sure about his speed. So there's a thing but if he can get bats free then superman can subdue flash. Also Bat's counter strategies already been used once so they'll be on their toes for more of the same. It also involved caculated precision attacks and suprise tactics. Its not something that could be done on the fly to work. If I'm wrong about the Geass I'll take that into consideration.

I do like your plan though. It's well thought out.

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@oreoassassin:

While certain versions of the symbiote have bonded to their hosts for an extended period of time and do live inside their hosts, this isn't the case with all the symbiotes. This is something that only happens when a symbiote and host fully bond. This is why so often who the host is changes. Because the symbiote isn't fully bonded. Now if you are fully bonded, it means you also feel you feel the pain of the symbiote and the such.. far more intensely then a partially bonded symbiote. This also doesn't mean the symbiote would be insulated from the speed force as it is still it's own creature.. it's bonded to you physically but it is not genetically linked... though it can affect your physiology, your physiology does not necessarilly affect it. It doesn't absorb you.. it lives inside or most frequently on you. Also the helmet only protects against telepathy in the same way Magneto's does. There's evidence that the symbiote is a fully sentience.. which means each cell is sentient and thus each cell has a mind to be assaulted. So unless the entriety of the symbiote was inside in the helmet, it would run the risk of being harmed by Manhunter's assault. And if you are fully bonded, then Manhunter can affect you through the symbiote. The helmet isn't magic. It doesn't cast an anti-psychic field. It's area of effect is only what it covers.

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@oreoassassin:

Control is different than just impairing. The Wizard was able to affect Carnage.. so it's possible Manhunter could cause it pain, impair its cognitive function, or otherwise find a way to take it out and remove it from the conflict. I honestly don't know how capable the symbiotes are at resisting psychic attacks.. so any info would appreaciated. Also the flash's speed force wouldn't/shouldn't protect the symbiote. Since the symbiote doesn't have the speed force itself and since it's just over your skin it should suffer the same fate as any other suit Flash wore.. which was to be burned off until he created a suit specifically able to withstand traveling at those speeds.

Green Arrow and Bats are two major nonfactors against you though. I'll grant. But I also think most of the others have feats of matching or countering Flash's speed.. But this all depends on whether you can make an argument why the symbiote would be insulated with the speed force.

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Powers

-Flashs Speed + Speed Force ONLY (Will not be using IMPs or BFR, just using the speed)

-Toxin Symbiote

-Mjolnir

-Stormbreaker

Gadgets

-Have Lex Create A Kryptonite Fusing Machine so I Can Fuse The Toxin Symbiote With Kryptonite

-Juggernauts Helmet (To Prevent Telepathy)

-Dual Plasma Cannons

Basically I have the Toxin symbiote(kryptonite fused=bad for superman), Wally Wests speed, Im dual weilding Mjlonir and Stormbreaker, Have a Juggs Helmet (Stops MM telepathy), and using the symbiote to carry 2x Plasma Cannons.

While I can see how this would be advantageous, the symbiote likely wouldn't be as fast as you are. Also the friction of your own speed would likely be bad for the suit, that'd impair how fast you could move. The dual Mjolnir and Stormbreaker seem like a good idea but can their powers be stacked? I'm not familiar if they've ever been stacked up. Like Stormbreaker being used to add potency to Mjolnir. If not then the dual of them is only slotting up but not really offering you an advantageous benefit. That aside Lantern might be able to match and or counter either of them and Wonder Woman is no stranger to combating godly powers. Keep in mind if you're taking them out one by one, they are likely to notice and join together making it more difficult to fight them singularly. One on one your plan could probably take them out, but as a group I think you'd probably go down. All it takes is Wonder Woman, Manhunter, Barry, or any of the others getting off Jugg's helmet. And couldn't Manhunter take out the symbiote psionically since it wouldn't be protected by the helmet?

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No one with a strategy?

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#10  Edited By DangerousLoki

@deathstroke19: That's a lot of assumptions. You can swing the crowbar however you desire. There's nothing that says they're swarming you. They're just evil murderous children. You don't have to kill them. You can run. You can plan. You can strategize. You can take advantage of the jungle. You can subdue them one by one. You can escape. You can murder them. No one is making you kill them.

And come on people. Do you not remember Village of the Damned, Children of the Corn, the Omen, Hunger Games, Battle Royale, or any of the dozen of other movies with evil children? Get a grip. Also I realize that Hunger Games and Battle Royale aren't about evil kids perse but there are certainly those who are ruthless murderers.