What Non metahuman can beat Deathstroke?

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#301  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@Gambler said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Gambler said:
" @DreadPirateRemy said:
" In Booster Gold #22 didn't Booster beat Deathstroke in a fight and wear his costume to pose as him and tell Dick Grayson to give Damian a chance? "
Really? I need to get this then. "
They don't even fight you see nothing you hear Booster say he has to stop Slade and get him by surprise. The Issue before that Slade dominates both Booster and The Teen Titans "
I'm looking at that issue now. He does dominate but lets not leave out the fact that he has help. "
He kills all of The Titans that is dominating in my book the only help he has is Ravager which he already had and The Black Beetle and that was before his upgrade. As well I don't see how Booster can be used as low showings, When he could defeat Cassie, Shiva, Cheshire, Canary, Dragon, Bronze Tiger, and Dick Grayson all at the same time with out even having to use his shields on his power suit alone
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#302  Edited By Silver2467

Seriously, could somebody please just post scans of the fight?

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#303  Edited By The_Ghostshell
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Gambler: And when has Cass ever even come close to beating him? Never and you can call his Flash feats ridiculous but the fact of their consistent nature more than makes up for it. And I guess you can call The Fastest Speedster ever, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Zattanna , Kyle Raynor and the Atom B-List if you want. "
 Their first fight she easily avoids everything he comes with and lands shots of her own. He even tries blasting her at point blank range and she simply avoids it and disarms him. There's nothing left for him to do but blow up the building their in. Their second fight, the one in which he's toying with her, she avoids and disarms him in that one to without ever throwing a punch (so obviously she wasn't going all out either) and still manages to end up with his sword positioned directly in his face. But even if you wanna dismiss those examples, there's still their most recent fight in which Slade flat out admits there's really only two ways to beat her, and him being better isn't one of them.
 
They are B-League in terms of the Justice League. Sure as hell aren't the A-Roster. Flash is but if you think he isnt fast enough to avoid running into a sword then it would be a waste of time for me to even debate it with you. I'm not even talking about Slade consistently being able to tag him, I'm talking about that one specific fight that you brought up. Slade holding a sword backwards and the Flash not being able to avoid running into it is ridiculous lol
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#304  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@Gambler: Slade had plotted out each step Wally would take and foxed him in as well you get a full explination in the book
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#305  Edited By The_Ghostshell
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" He kills all of The Titans that is dominating in my book the only help he has is Ravager which he already had and The Black Beetle and that was before his upgrade. As well I don't see how Booster can be used as low showings, When he could defeat Cassie, Shiva, Cheshire, Canary, Dragon, Bronze Tiger, and Dick Grayson all at the same time with out even having to use his shields on his power suit alone "
Are you even reading what I'm posting? I already said he dominated them...you're so defensive about Stroke that you cant even see when I'm agreeing with you lol. I also never said Booster Gold beating Stroke was a low end showing. I said I wanted to see it. 
 
Also, Ravager takes out Donna Troy, Beetle takes out Cyborg and Booster Gold, and Stroke comes in with a grenade attack that finishes it. So like I said, he had help ;)
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#306  Edited By The_Ghostshell
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Gambler: Slade had plotted out each step Wally would take and foxed him in as well you get a full explination in the book "
Yup, I've read it. But you seem to be under the impression that the Flash is incapable of instantaneous redirection.
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#307  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@Gambler:
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I just am getting that cornered feeling lol. It feels like now adays when a Stroke thread comes up the only people who defend him are me and NickA *shivers*
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#308  Edited By Silver2467
@Gambler said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Gambler: Slade had plotted out each step Wally would take and foxed him in as well you get a full explination in the book "
Yup, I've read it. But you seem to be under the impression that the Flash is incapable of instantaneous redirection. "
Static has a scan of Flash beating down Deathstroke just to show he can defeat him anytime he wants. I don't see how Deathstroke tagging Flash when he prepared for the fight bears relevance in a random encounter street leveler fight. 
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#309  Edited By The_Ghostshell
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Gambler:
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I just am getting that cornered feeling lol. It feels like now adays when a Stroke thread comes up the only people who defend him are me and NickA *shivers* "
HA! I think its backlash cause alot of users treat Stroke like he's Midnighter. If I see one more person post about how he "handled" Wonder Woman I'mma lose it :P
 
 @Silver2467 said:
" I don't see how Deathstroke tagging Flash when he prepared for the fight bears relevance in a random encounter street leveler fight.  "
It doesnt really. We're just off on a side debate tip lol
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#310  Edited By FinalStar86
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Gambler:
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I just am getting that cornered feeling lol. It feels like now adays when a Stroke thread comes up the only people who defend him are me and NickA *shivers* "
ROFL
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#311  Edited By Static Shock
@Son_of_Magnus said:
"and you can call his Flash feats ridiculous but the fact of their consistent nature more than makes up for it.
Lets be real, though. 
 

 You have to agree that Flash can beat Deathstroke if he really wants to
 You have to agree that Flash can beat Deathstroke if he really wants to


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#312  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@Static Shock: Well ya but I think that with sufficient prep even if he really wanted him gone it would not be enough. Deathstroke is friends with The Rogues
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#313  Edited By Zoom

@Static 
 
For sure. 
 
@ SoM 
 
Not really.

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#314  Edited By FinalStar86

Would Zealot and Nemesis count as meta's? 

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#315  Edited By Static Shock
@FinalStar86:Yep.
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#316  Edited By Nerx

Cassandra Cain but then again saying she is peak human would be BS

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#317  Edited By Crom-Cruach
@Nerx: Cassandra Cain could not beat Deathstroke 1 on 1.
 
The only non metas I can think of possibly pulling it off in DC are Shiva and Richard Dragon.
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#318  Edited By Nerx
@Crom-Cruach: 
 
Karate Kid could do that but saying he is peak human would be super BS
 
 So why did this happen?
 So why did this happen?
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#319  Edited By Crom-Cruach
@Nerx: Indeed, Karaté Kid is not even close to human.
 
As to this Scan, I'd call it bad writing since he's fought stronger and won. Though I don't have the comic to accurately judge.
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#320  Edited By Nerx
@Crom-Cruach: But is she is above peak human , okay the martial arts thing and training with her dad is understandable
 
but dodging sniper bullets and taking gunfire without flinching is bullcrap
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#321  Edited By SilverMan91

Karate Kid could take him with his eyes closed!!!!
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#322  Edited By oiHooliganismoi

captain america (both steve or buck)
batman (both bruce or dick)
nick fury
Ironfist
karnak
karate kid
tim drake
jason todd 
 
there is ten and there are alot more

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#323  Edited By Crom-Cruach
@Silver man:  There's nothing human about Karaté kid
 @Nerx:  She's stated as being completely within human abilities. As to dodging bullets, all good street levelers do that all the time in comics.
@oiHooliganismoi said:
" captain america (both steve or buck) batman (both bruce or dick) nick fury Ironfist karnak karate kid tim drake jason todd   there is ten and there are alot more "

the only people on this list who could is Iron Fist with Chi powers.
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#324  Edited By mavfan626

 
has anyone said elektra? and could she?

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#325  Edited By Crom-Cruach
@mavfan626:  without her powers, never. With her powers, maybe, thought that would make it outside the scope of this thread as with powers she qualifies as a low-level meta.
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#326  Edited By brucephillwayne

this is almost impossible. Batmans beaten/trained most everyone mentioned or a greater fighter than someone mentioned except for Bronze tiger and Richard Dragon and Cassandra . which leaves only them three. I think we all have to take this into REAL consideration and say "some you win some you lose" they need to make deathstroke fights with people so we dont have to do this comparison bullshit. i say batman will win more than anyone if they were to each challenge deathstroke a hundred times. but deathstroke would still get the best of everyone. Hes 50 steps ahead of everyone no matter who we put out there.. 90% percent brain usage.. that beats everyone elses 3-10 %

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#327  Edited By nefarious

Colossus.

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#328  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@Nefarious said:
" Colossus. "
I think meta-human includes mutants.
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#329  Edited By nefarious
@OmegaDynasty: Ah, I see. Hmmm...this one is a bit difficult..
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#330  Edited By Yaujtapool

Batman 1 million

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#331  Edited By nefarious

Iron Man can beat Deathstroke with ease.

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#332  Edited By Achilles.

 
Prince of Orphans. 
Judge Dredd. 
Azrael (Michael Lane) 
Snake Eyes

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#333  Edited By DeathsHead2

Nick Fury 
 
Frank Castle 
 
Bruce Wayne 
 
Ect. 
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#334  Edited By YouFinished

Brock Samson.   

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#335  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator
@DeathsHead2 said:
"Nick Fury  Frank Castle  Bruce Wayne  Ect.  "

1. Maybe if he called in an airstrike  
2. No 
3. No its already been stated bats has beaten him a few times.
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#336  Edited By Noelieboats

Chuck Norris.
 
That's the answer lock thread you're all welcome!

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#337  Edited By whacknasty

Wow, this seems like a really hard challenge to have so many pages of replies...lol. 
 
Err.. 
 
Snake Eyes 
Storm Shadow 
Conan 
Red Sonja 
 
and some that probably couldn't, but would be cool to see (imo) 
 
Night Thrasher - his armor+tech+h2h skills may give him a pretty good shot though...
Paladin - nice gear/fighting prowess 
Ronin - same as Paladin

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@FinalStar86 said:
" @Xi Felix said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" @Xi Felix said:
" -Batgirl  -Iron Fist  -Lady Shiva  -Richard Dragon  -Bronze Tiger  -Black Panther  -Captain America  -Prometheus   "
Maybe, Yes, Maybe, no, no, with tech, possibly, depending on gear "
Bronze Tiger has done it. So...yes. Besides the topic isn't "would" beat Deathstroke, it's "can" beat Deathstroke. "
Bronze Tiger has never technically done it, and that was one instance, if we go by that logic, Bats stalemated him twice and Deathstoke pwned Bats in the same issue twice while depowered "
But Bronze Tiger already had the upper hand on Slade, in some Suicide Squad issue. He landed more hit. Bronze Tiger beat Batman too.
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#339  Edited By CaptainRodgers
@FinalStar86 said:
" @whacknasty said:
" Um... I'll take some guesses... If anyone surpasses meta, i'll cut them...  Lady Shiva Batgirl (Cassie) maybe Taskmaster...  "
maybe maybe hell no "

I still think Cass and Shiva would lose
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#340  Edited By CaptainRodgers

Batman 1 million  
Prince of Orphans  
  
Would Fantomex' hypnotism thang work on Slade ? doubt he'd beat him but just asking
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#341  Edited By DedmanWalkin

Captain Cold would kill Slade with morals off.

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#342  Edited By velle37

Cheshire used to in the past. 
 
She's been downgraded since..... Shame...... 
 
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........

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#343  Edited By FinalStar86
@velle37 said:
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Cheshire used to in the past. 
 
She's been downgraded since..... Shame...... 
 
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........

"
They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it
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Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Cassie Cain, Shiva, Danny Rand, Steve Rogers and T'Challa to name a few.

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#345  Edited By Skaddix

Iron Man, War Machine, honestly any comic book super genius with sufficient time could own Slade.

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#346  Edited By velle37
@FinalStar86 said:
" @velle37 said:
"

Cheshire used to in the past. 
 
She's been downgraded since..... Shame...... 
 
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........

"
They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it "

Has Deathstroke been upgraded?
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#347  Edited By FinalStar86
@DedmanWalkin said:
" Captain Cold would kill Slade with morals off. "
Easily
 
@velle37 said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" @velle37 said:
"

Cheshire used to in the past. 
 
She's been downgraded since..... Shame...... 
 
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........

"
They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it "
Has Deathstroke been upgraded? "

It sure looks that way, barely getting past Bats and Nightwing in his own series then pwning them in their own series.  If anything the writers have made him into a more formidable and consistent character then he was in his series.
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#348  Edited By velle37
@FinalStar86 said:
" @DedmanWalkin said:
" Captain Cold would kill Slade with morals off. "
Easily
 
@velle37 said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" @velle37 said:
"

Cheshire used to in the past. 
 
She's been downgraded since..... Shame...... 
 
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........

"
They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it "
Has Deathstroke been upgraded? "
It sure looks that way, barely getting past Bats and Nightwing in his own series then pwning them in their own series.  If anything the writers have made him into a more formidable and consistent character then he was in his series. "

In Renegade, Nightwing briefly held his own with DS. 
In a recent Titans issue, Nightwing held his own martially again. 
 
Tiger and Dragon are far above Grayson in MA, and Tiger has scuffled with DS in the past. 
They should be able to beat him.
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#349  Edited By FinalStar86
@velle37 said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" @DedmanWalkin said:
" Captain Cold would kill Slade with morals off. "
Easily
 
@velle37 said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" @velle37 said:
"

Cheshire used to in the past. 
 
She's been downgraded since..... Shame...... 
 
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........

"
They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it "
Has Deathstroke been upgraded? "
It sure looks that way, barely getting past Bats and Nightwing in his own series then pwning them in their own series.  If anything the writers have made him into a more formidable and consistent character then he was in his series. "
In Renegade, Nightwing briefly held his own with DS. In a recent Titans issue, Nightwing held his own martially again.  Tiger and Dragon are far above Grayson in MA, and Tiger has scuffled with DS in the past. They should be able to beat him. "
In Renegade, Nightwing ran away from Deathstroke and told him that he would come back for him
In the recent Titans issue, Slade was more intent on escaping because the cops were coming and the inmates were loose.
Tiger scuffled with DS in his own series when Slade was peak human, he was smacking around teams of superheroes back then.
 
That version of Slade, Tiger and Dragon can beat.  Can they beat the Slade from Outsiders and TT V3? I don't think so [IMO]
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#350  Edited By TheCerealKillz

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