" @Son_of_Magnus said:He kills all of The Titans that is dominating in my book the only help he has is Ravager which he already had and The Black Beetle and that was before his upgrade. As well I don't see how Booster can be used as low showings, When he could defeat Cassie, Shiva, Cheshire, Canary, Dragon, Bronze Tiger, and Dick Grayson all at the same time with out even having to use his shields on his power suit alone" @Gambler said:I'm looking at that issue now. He does dominate but lets not leave out the fact that he has help. "" @DreadPirateRemy said:They don't even fight you see nothing you hear Booster say he has to stop Slade and get him by surprise. The Issue before that Slade dominates both Booster and The Teen Titans "" In Booster Gold #22 didn't Booster beat Deathstroke in a fight and wear his costume to pose as him and tell Dick Grayson to give Damian a chance? "Really? I need to get this then. "
What Non metahuman can beat Deathstroke?
" @Gambler: And when has Cass ever even come close to beating him? Never and you can call his Flash feats ridiculous but the fact of their consistent nature more than makes up for it. And I guess you can call The Fastest Speedster ever, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Zattanna , Kyle Raynor and the Atom B-List if you want. "Their first fight she easily avoids everything he comes with and lands shots of her own. He even tries blasting her at point blank range and she simply avoids it and disarms him. There's nothing left for him to do but blow up the building their in. Their second fight, the one in which he's toying with her, she avoids and disarms him in that one to without ever throwing a punch (so obviously she wasn't going all out either) and still manages to end up with his sword positioned directly in his face. But even if you wanna dismiss those examples, there's still their most recent fight in which Slade flat out admits there's really only two ways to beat her, and him being better isn't one of them.
They are B-League in terms of the Justice League. Sure as hell aren't the A-Roster. Flash is but if you think he isnt fast enough to avoid running into a sword then it would be a waste of time for me to even debate it with you. I'm not even talking about Slade consistently being able to tag him, I'm talking about that one specific fight that you brought up. Slade holding a sword backwards and the Flash not being able to avoid running into it is ridiculous lol
" He kills all of The Titans that is dominating in my book the only help he has is Ravager which he already had and The Black Beetle and that was before his upgrade. As well I don't see how Booster can be used as low showings, When he could defeat Cassie, Shiva, Cheshire, Canary, Dragon, Bronze Tiger, and Dick Grayson all at the same time with out even having to use his shields on his power suit alone "Are you even reading what I'm posting? I already said he dominated them...you're so defensive about Stroke that you cant even see when I'm agreeing with you lol. I also never said Booster Gold beating Stroke was a low end showing. I said I wanted to see it.
Also, Ravager takes out Donna Troy, Beetle takes out Cyborg and Booster Gold, and Stroke comes in with a grenade attack that finishes it. So like I said, he had help ;)
" @Gambler: Slade had plotted out each step Wally would take and foxed him in as well you get a full explination in the book "Yup, I've read it. But you seem to be under the impression that the Flash is incapable of instantaneous redirection.
I just am getting that cornered feeling lol. It feels like now adays when a Stroke thread comes up the only people who defend him are me and NickA *shivers*
" @Son_of_Magnus said:Static has a scan of Flash beating down Deathstroke just to show he can defeat him anytime he wants. I don't see how Deathstroke tagging Flash when he prepared for the fight bears relevance in a random encounter street leveler fight." @Gambler: Slade had plotted out each step Wally would take and foxed him in as well you get a full explination in the book "Yup, I've read it. But you seem to be under the impression that the Flash is incapable of instantaneous redirection. "
" @Gambler:HA! I think its backlash cause alot of users treat Stroke like he's Midnighter. If I see one more person post about how he "handled" Wonder Woman I'mma lose it :P
I just am getting that cornered feeling lol. It feels like now adays when a Stroke thread comes up the only people who defend him are me and NickA *shivers* "
@Silver2467 said:
" I don't see how Deathstroke tagging Flash when he prepared for the fight bears relevance in a random encounter street leveler fight. "It doesnt really. We're just off on a side debate tip lol
" @Gambler:ROFL
I just am getting that cornered feeling lol. It feels like now adays when a Stroke thread comes up the only people who defend him are me and NickA *shivers* "
"and you can call his Flash feats ridiculous but the fact of their consistent nature more than makes up for it.Lets be real, though.
The only non metas I can think of possibly pulling it off in DC are Shiva and Richard Dragon.
As to this Scan, I'd call it bad writing since he's fought stronger and won. Though I don't have the comic to accurately judge.
captain america (both steve or buck)
batman (both bruce or dick)
nick fury
Ironfist
karnak
karate kid
tim drake
jason todd
there is ten and there are alot more
@Nerx: She's stated as being completely within human abilities. As to dodging bullets, all good street levelers do that all the time in comics.
@oiHooliganismoi said:
" captain america (both steve or buck) batman (both bruce or dick) nick fury Ironfist karnak karate kid tim drake jason todd there is ten and there are alot more "
the only people on this list who could is Iron Fist with Chi powers.
this is almost impossible. Batmans beaten/trained most everyone mentioned or a greater fighter than someone mentioned except for Bronze tiger and Richard Dragon and Cassandra . which leaves only them three. I think we all have to take this into REAL consideration and say "some you win some you lose" they need to make deathstroke fights with people so we dont have to do this comparison bullshit. i say batman will win more than anyone if they were to each challenge deathstroke a hundred times. but deathstroke would still get the best of everyone. Hes 50 steps ahead of everyone no matter who we put out there.. 90% percent brain usage.. that beats everyone elses 3-10 %
Wow, this seems like a really hard challenge to have so many pages of replies...lol.
Err..
Snake Eyes
Storm Shadow
Conan
Red Sonja
and some that probably couldn't, but would be cool to see (imo)
Night Thrasher - his armor+tech+h2h skills may give him a pretty good shot though...
Paladin - nice gear/fighting prowess
Ronin - same as Paladin
" @Xi Felix said:But Bronze Tiger already had the upper hand on Slade, in some Suicide Squad issue. He landed more hit. Bronze Tiger beat Batman too." @FinalStar86 said:Bronze Tiger has never technically done it, and that was one instance, if we go by that logic, Bats stalemated him twice and Deathstoke pwned Bats in the same issue twice while depowered "" @Xi Felix said:Bronze Tiger has done it. So...yes. Besides the topic isn't "would" beat Deathstroke, it's "can" beat Deathstroke. "" -Batgirl -Iron Fist -Lady Shiva -Richard Dragon -Bronze Tiger -Black Panther -Captain America -Prometheus "Maybe, Yes, Maybe, no, no, with tech, possibly, depending on gear "
" @whacknasty said:" Um... I'll take some guesses... If anyone surpasses meta, i'll cut them... Lady Shiva Batgirl (Cassie) maybe Taskmaster... "maybe maybe hell no "
I still think Cass and Shiva would lose
Batman 1 million
Prince of Orphans
Would Fantomex' hypnotism thang work on Slade ? doubt he'd beat him but just asking
"They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt itCheshire used to in the past.
"
She's been downgraded since..... Shame......
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........
" @velle37 said:"They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it "Cheshire used to in the past.
"
She's been downgraded since..... Shame......
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........
Has Deathstroke been upgraded?
" Captain Cold would kill Slade with morals off. "Easily
@velle37 said:
" @FinalStar86 said:" @velle37 said:Has Deathstroke been upgraded? ""They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it "Cheshire used to in the past.
"
She's been downgraded since..... Shame......
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........
It sure looks that way, barely getting past Bats and Nightwing in his own series then pwning them in their own series. If anything the writers have made him into a more formidable and consistent character then he was in his series.
" @DedmanWalkin said:" Captain Cold would kill Slade with morals off. "Easily
@velle37 said:" @FinalStar86 said:It sure looks that way, barely getting past Bats and Nightwing in his own series then pwning them in their own series. If anything the writers have made him into a more formidable and consistent character then he was in his series. "" @velle37 said:Has Deathstroke been upgraded? ""They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it "Cheshire used to in the past.
"
She's been downgraded since..... Shame......
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........
In Renegade, Nightwing briefly held his own with DS.
In a recent Titans issue, Nightwing held his own martially again.
Tiger and Dragon are far above Grayson in MA, and Tiger has scuffled with DS in the past.
They should be able to beat him.
" @FinalStar86 said:In Renegade, Nightwing ran away from Deathstroke and told him that he would come back for him" @DedmanWalkin said:In Renegade, Nightwing briefly held his own with DS. In a recent Titans issue, Nightwing held his own martially again. Tiger and Dragon are far above Grayson in MA, and Tiger has scuffled with DS in the past. They should be able to beat him. "" Captain Cold would kill Slade with morals off. "Easily
@velle37 said:" @FinalStar86 said:It sure looks that way, barely getting past Bats and Nightwing in his own series then pwning them in their own series. If anything the writers have made him into a more formidable and consistent character then he was in his series. "" @velle37 said:Has Deathstroke been upgraded? ""They might of been able to take him back in the earler 90's, Now? I doubt it "Cheshire used to in the past.
"
She's been downgraded since..... Shame......
Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon should be able to take Slade..........
In the recent Titans issue, Slade was more intent on escaping because the cops were coming and the inmates were loose.
Tiger scuffled with DS in his own series when Slade was peak human, he was smacking around teams of superheroes back then.
That version of Slade, Tiger and Dragon can beat. Can they beat the Slade from Outsiders and TT V3? I don't think so [IMO]
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