Sith lords and empire vs Galactus and heralds
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I suppose if morals are off, it's a roflstomp against the Sith.
My scenario included morals and I do not think that Norrin would simply vape them all. In that, it would give the sith lords and masters the opportunity to manipulate him.
Manipulation is the weakness best used against all omnipotent beings. It's also Superman's weakness, as well.
" @theiconic said:I'm a bit skeptical of this. When has Galactus actually destroyed galaxies? The only time I can think of him supposedly working on such a scale is in the One-Shot where he fought Mephisto, and I would consider that debateable even (could have all been confined to Mephisto's realm; when has Mephisto himself ever been strong enough to shake galaxies outside of his domain? Plus, doing something once isn't a good indicator of strength, otherwise we'd have to always acknowledge that Spider Man is strong enough to defeat Heralds)." @Silver2467: size matters not....yoda. "It's not about size. It's about the fact that Galactus can destroy entire galaxies. He could just eliminate the entire Star Wars galaxy in one blast. "
Even so, at a minimum Galactus will still be quite a bit stronger than the Death Star, so nothing in their arsenal is likely to harm him, or even get the chance with his heralds flying around, and while some Sith may be extremely powerful (I think being able to destroy a star would at least slow Galactus down, depending on how it was done), they are still contending with multiple, very fast, very powerful targets. Plaguis might have some ability to prevent death, but there's got to be a practical limit. If Galactus scatters someone's atoms across a star system, do they really count as alive? Plus, Plagueis himself can still die, so Galactus or a herald just needs to make sure to put him down to take care of that problem.
Personally, I think the biggest issue with Galactus eating Coruscant is whether or not it's even edible to him. The whole planet is a city. That's probably not real healthy for its bio-energy.
"I'm a bit skeptical of this. When has Galactus actually destroyed galaxies? The only time I can think of him supposedly working on such a scale is in the One-Shot where he fought Mephisto, and I would consider that debateable even (could have all been confined to Mephisto's realm; when has Mephisto himself ever been strong enough to shake galaxies outside of his domain? Plus, doing something once isn't a good indicator of strength, otherwise we'd have to always acknowledge that Spider Man is strong enough to defeat Heralds). Even so, at a minimum Galactus will still be quite a bit stronger than the Death Star, so nothing in their arsenal is likely to harm him, or even get the chance with his heralds flying around, and while some Sith may be extremely powerful (I think being able to destroy a star would at least slow Galactus down, depending on how it was done), they are still contending with multiple, very fast, very powerful targets. Plaguis might have some ability to prevent death, but there's got to be a practical limit. If Galactus scatters someone's atoms across a star system, do they really count as alive? Plus, Plagueis himself can still die, so Galactus or a herald just needs to make sure to put him down to take care of that problem. Personally, I think the biggest issue with Galactus eating Coruscant is whether or not it's even edible to him. The whole planet is a city. That's probably not real healthy for its bio-energy. "
Nah I don't remember anything about Galaxies being destroyed during his fight with Mephisto, just Mephisto bragging about how he can shatter them before Galactus comes and causes chaos for him.
Although just to point out, Galactus has shown on plenty of occasions he is quite insanely powerful.
It goes in this order, give or take the middle thats showing the damage they are doing to the universe outside Mephisto's realm.
It's his fight with a member of the Vishanti in it's own realm that had entire dimensions going haywire.
Doubtful blowing up a star in his face will do much, bar destroy his clothing if he's not paying attention. He sits in stars, has made himself as large as them and larger and has take much more potent attacks and reformed himself and others right after.
Not to mention at probably the weakest hes ever been from hunger wip tossing out 3 star system busters (well to be fair, it was expanding even further than that) to wipe out most of the Annihilation Wave.
Either way it takes a whole lot more power to move entire Galaxies around than simply blowing them up either way.
As for Plagueis, it wouldn't be the first time he's had to deal with people that can't die.
Although that hardly matters because they could dump him in a black hole or something.
In the case of Spiderman vs Firelord, Spiderman has beaten a lot of people he shouldn't be able to, its just fights like this where hes tagging someone that should burn his fist to a crisp tagging, who's faster, stronger and more durable, something doesn't add up.
" @ckal: read force powers and what they can do even to him "No offense, but would you please let this go? The Sith Lords can't win. I'm aware of all of the best feats in Star Wars, and it's not enough. I'm a huge Star Wars fan, and this thread bothers me because it could pass as spite. Galactus and his heralds win easily. End thread.
" @theiconic said:" @ckal: read force powers and what they can do even to him "No offense, but would you please let this go? The Sith Lords can't win. I'm aware of all of the best feats in Star Wars, and it's not enough. I'm a huge Star Wars fan, and this thread bothers me because it could pass as spite. Galactus and his heralds win easily. End thread. "
Agreed
" I was thinking the Heralds could turn the Sith Lords into Mr. Potato Head dolls via Transmutation... "This happens lol.
" @ckal: read force powers and what they can do even to him "I should say that I do like Star Wars and the whole Jedi/Sith thing so its not that I don't like it. But first, Surfer is resistant many telepathic attacks much like a couple of the Sith powers you listed. That would mean those would not affect the Surfer. Second, I would say that Surfer has been hit by and survived larger attacks than the Sith could throw at him like the other couple you listed.
Also, I feel like I should point this little fact out...how are the Sith actually going to fight Galactus' heralds? Are they going to somehow fly around outer space? I am pretty sure none of them can fly, or even survive in out space.
Something else would be that Plaguis can't just show another Sith lord how to keep someone from dying in a few minutes. Didn't Sidious say it took him a very long time to figure out how to do it, and it would take a very long time to teach other how to? I'm not exactly sure how Plaguis' ability to keep people from dying works, but I imagine if the Surfer completely obliterates someone at the molecular level, they won't be coming back.
My last point would be that Surfer can act and react at speeds that the Sith could not even be able to comprehend. If the Surfer hits them with any attack being physical or with the power cosmic, Force Shield or not, I imagine the Sith die instantly.
All together...........They're not even going to affect the dust on Silver Surfer's shoulder. You're pitting the sith against, quite simply, a nigh-omnipotent god, and his team of cosmic amped heralds, whom even one would exert no effort into transmuting them into Pudding Pops a yoctosecond after the battle begins
Um....... how exactly are the Sith going to win here? they would be lucky if they can defeat one of Galactus's heralds like Silver Surfer or Terrax let alone Galactus himself!!!!!!!!
@Morpheus_ said:
Everything that I've heard for all the Sith Lords combined in this thread, the Surfer has done on his own. Not even taking Galactus into account.
All those abilities are great, theiconic but once again, Galactus can destroy their galaxy. Or Silver Surfer alone could probably take all the siths, Galactus smashes all the weapons, and the other heralds can take out the clones.
I mean Silver Surfer has
-matter manipulation
-manipulate the universe's energy
-telepathy
-time travel
-power cosmic
-shoot cosmic bolts can can one shot a planet
-black hole
-supernova
-sense things from light years away
-travel faster than light and react in a nanosecond
-creat interdimensial portals
-no sleep, water, food, or air
-use the power cosmic to make his strength as powerful as he wants
-cast illusions
-heal
-phase through solid matter
-his board can absorb or imprison other beings
Enough said, galactus and heralds stomp
@mortium what would a 2nd death star do when the 1st deathstar isint powerful enough to even harm galactus thats like saying i have a better chance of damaging superman with 2 guns instead of 1 even though the one gun cant even scratch superman lol that's illogical no matter how many deathstars they have it one stop galactus from one shoting them
What an utterly pointless bump. Galactus solos.
@god_spawn Lock this please.
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