"Spderman Thais isnt even a CURBSTOMP.This is way beond a CURBSTOMP"
Actually your right..this is beyond a curbstomp...But Spider-Man doesn't win......."
*sigh* feats to prove, please."
back in the tube KY Jelly...nobody needs you right now." / He willl when he shatters his spine with a punch in the back.
How fast does Ed move?"
I don't know....I don't think he has ever mentioned his speed.If your going to bother saying Spider-Man is too fast for him.Speed can be compromised with intellect and planning.Ask the Punisher.
"Ed is faster than normal humans, IMO. However, with his alchemy, Spider-Man isn't going to win as easily as others think. This ain't no curbstomp."
That's what I'm thinking, he could use Alchemy, possibly for an AOE transmutation, if they were bloodlusted. The OP didn't state bloodlust though, they're not going to kill each other, I'm thinking Spidey wins via webbing and speed.
"Vance Astro said:
I don't know....I don't think he has ever mentioned his speed.If your going to bother saying Spider-Man is too fast for him.Speed can be compromised with intellect and planning.Ask the Punisher.
Can Ed punch Spidey in the spine, let alone touch him in a h2h fight, yes or no.
"Ed is faster than normal humans, IMO. However, with his alchemy, Spider-Man isn't going to win as easily as others think. This ain't no curbstomp."
That's what I'm thinking, he could use Alchemy, possibly for an AOE transmutation, if they were bloodlusted. The OP didn't state bloodlust though, they're not going to kill each other, I'm thinking Spidey wins via webbing and speed.
"Vance Astro said:
I don't know....I don't think he has ever mentioned his speed.If your going to bother saying Spider-Man is too fast for him.Speed can be compromised with intellect and planning.Ask the Punisher.
Can Ed punch Spidey in the spine, let alone touch him in a h2h fight, yes or no.
It doesn't matter if the faster person he fought was at wheelchair speed.He can hit Spider-Man.Spider-Man isn't a very smart fighter even though he's very smart.
"Ed fought that one suit of armor that was like his brother and i think he had a difficult time with it..anyone remember this?"
I know what you're talking about, I've seen the show and the movie. You're talking about the suit of armor that wanted to comit suicide by breaking it's own seal.
It doesn't matter if the faster person he fought was at wheelchair speed.He can hit Spider-Man.Spider-Man isn't a very smart fighter even though he's very smart."
You have no proof as to Eds fighting speed. So, I'm going to take that as a "Noone nearly as fast as Spiderman," gotcha.
It doesn't matter if the faster person he fought was at wheelchair speed.He can hit Spider-Man.Spider-Man isn't a very smart fighter even though he's very smart."
You have no proof as to Eds fighting speed. So, I'm going to take that as a "Noone nearly as fast as Spiderman," gotcha. "
"Ok but he still wins.Your not getting the point."
You're making claims without adequate proof (trolling), what are you trying to imply?"
I'm not making claims without adequate proof..you must have misunderstood my claim.I'm saying Ed doesn't have to be as fast as Spider-Man to hit him.I have seen this done logically and you keep asking for proof of Ed's speed...It doesn't mean anything.And I only made one claim that Ed would beat Spider-Man by being able to hit him without being as fast as him..so there was no "claims".
"Ok but he still wins.Your not getting the point."
You're making claims without adequate proof (trolling), what are you trying to imply?"
I'm not making claims without adequate proof..you must have misunderstood my claim.I'm saying Ed doesn't have to be as fast as Spider-Man to hit him.I have seen this done logically and you keep asking for proof of Ed's speed...It doesn't mean anything.And I only made one claim that Ed would beat Spider-Man by being able to hit him without being as fast as him..so there was no "claims"."
"Ok but he still wins.Your not getting the point."
You're making claims without adequate proof (trolling), what are you trying to imply?"
I'm not making claims without adequate proof..you must have misunderstood my claim.I'm saying Ed doesn't have to be as fast as Spider-Man to hit him.I have seen this done logically and you keep asking for proof of Ed's speed...It doesn't mean anything.And I only made one claim that Ed would beat Spider-Man by being able to hit him without being as fast as him..so there was no "claims"."
Are you familiar with the rules of the forum?"
Yes I am....
I made a claim and your not trying to refute it..your talking about something different entirely.
"Ok but he still wins.Your not getting the point."
You're making claims without adequate proof (trolling), what are you trying to imply?"
I'm not making claims without adequate proof..you must have misunderstood my claim.I'm saying Ed doesn't have to be as fast as Spider-Man to hit him.I have seen this done logically and you keep asking for proof of Ed's speed...It doesn't mean anything.And I only made one claim that Ed would beat Spider-Man by being able to hit him without being as fast as him..so there was no "claims"."
Are you familiar with the rules of the forum?"
Yes I am....
I made a claim and your not trying to refute it..your talking about something different entirely.
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IYou're alluding to attack and reflex speed being a non issue in a fight with someone that has human level durabilty with someone significantly faster and stronger (i.e. break concrete, lift cars). Why should I try to refute something so ridiculous? It just sounds like you're trying to bait me in lieu of providing adequate evidence that doesn't conflict with the rules of the forum.
"Ok but he still wins.Your not getting the point."
You're making claims without adequate proof (trolling), what are you trying to imply?"
I'm not making claims without adequate proof..you must have misunderstood my claim.I'm saying Ed doesn't have to be as fast as Spider-Man to hit him.I have seen this done logically and you keep asking for proof of Ed's speed...It doesn't mean anything.And I only made one claim that Ed would beat Spider-Man by being able to hit him without being as fast as him..so there was no "claims"."
Are you familiar with the rules of the forum?"
Yes I am....
I made a claim and your not trying to refute it..your talking about something different entirely.
"
IYou're alluding to attack and reflex speed being a non issue in a fight with someone that has human level durabilty with someone significantly faster and stronger (i.e. break concrete, lift cars). Why should I try to refute something so ridiculous? It just sounds like you're trying to bait me in lieu of providing adequate evidence that doesn't conflict with the rules of the forum."
Do you read you own posts.I have been reading you debates and so far you seem to consistently try to argue in debates you've already lost.I'm pretty sure that even if you were shown proof you'd find something wrong with it.I was in the Naruto vs. Spider-man thread and more than half of your posts are complete ridiculous.Your not listening to the argument being presented.The claim was that Spider-Man can be hit even if his opponent is slower than him..don't even start with bullet dodgin because actual good marksman can hit Spider-Man.Now...in case you didn't read it...Spider-Man fought the Punisher on a rooftop..the Punisher counted on him using his speed...so he made Spider-Man dive after him off a roof..making him leave his feet and put himself off balance.Since they are heroes..Frank didn't kill him..he just shot his web shooters...destroying them.Spider-Man's speed or Spider-sense couldn't have saved him because he put himself in a position where he couldn't dodge.Edward is a good and smart fighter and could lead Spider-Man right into an ass whoopin.You keep talking about forum rules but nobody here is breaking any..your just being a douchebag.
"ed is faster he can doge flames and all that good stuff
What proof do you have of Ed being faster than Spider-Man? I'm open to the possibility of Ed hitting Spidey, but how do you know he's faster than Spidey? And, who can't dodge flames and all that good stuff?
"I dunno I really cant see How spiderman would lose this one.."
Let me break it down for you.Edward is an excellent fighter...Spider-Man has consistently had his as handed to him by Marvel's top martial artists.Ed happens to be skilled in the region and alot stronger than them..and he has alot of options with his transmutation powers.
"ed is faster he can doge flames and all that good stuff
What proof do you have of Ed being faster than Spider-Man? I'm open to the possibility of Ed hitting Spidey, but how do you know he's faster than Spidey? And, who can't dodge flames and all that good stuff?"
okay back XD and i didint say anything about ed being faster than spiderman just that ed is just about or close to peak human speed(not like captain america cause thats just stupid) hes able to fight envy and greed and they move in super human strenght
It doesn't matter if the faster person he fought was at wheelchair speed.He can hit Spider-Man.Spider-Man isn't a very smart fighter even though he's very smart."
You have no proof as to Eds fighting speed. So, I'm going to take that as a "Noone nearly as fast as Spiderman," gotcha. "
Fastest person hes fought has dodged bullets with ease, is that enough for you?
It doesn't matter if the faster person he fought was at wheelchair speed.He can hit Spider-Man.Spider-Man isn't a very smart fighter even though he's very smart."
You have no proof as to Eds fighting speed. So, I'm going to take that as a "Noone nearly as fast as Spiderman," gotcha. "
Fastest person hes fought has dodged bullets with ease, is that enough for you?"
"Ok but he still wins.Your not getting the point."
You're making claims without adequate proof (trolling), what are you trying to imply?"
I'm not making claims without adequate proof..you must have misunderstood my claim.I'm saying Ed doesn't have to be as fast as Spider-Man to hit him.I have seen this done logically and you keep asking for proof of Ed's speed...It doesn't mean anything.And I only made one claim that Ed would beat Spider-Man by being able to hit him without being as fast as him..so there was no "claims"."
Are you familiar with the rules of the forum?"
Yes I am....
I made a claim and your not trying to refute it..your talking about something different entirely.
"
IYou're alluding to attack and reflex speed being a non issue in a fight with someone that has human level durabilty with someone significantly faster and stronger (i.e. break concrete, lift cars). Why should I try to refute something so ridiculous? It just sounds like you're trying to bait me in lieu of providing adequate evidence that doesn't conflict with the rules of the forum."
Do you read you own posts.I have been reading you debates and so far you seem to consistently try to argue in debates you've already lost.I'm pretty sure that even if you were shown proof you'd find something wrong with it.I was in the Naruto vs. Spider-man thread and more than half of your posts are complete ridiculous.Your not listening to the argument being presented.The claim was that Spider-Man can be hit even if his opponent is slower than him..don't even start with bullet dodgin because actual good marksman can hit Spider-Man.Now...in case you didn't read it...Spider-Man fought the Punisher on a rooftop..the Punisher counted on him using his speed...so he made Spider-Man dive after him off a roof..making him leave his feet and put himself off balance.Since they are heroes..Frank didn't kill him..he just shot his web shooters...destroying them.Spider-Man's speed or Spider-sense couldn't have saved him because he put himself in a position where he couldn't dodge.Edward is a good and smart fighter and could lead Spider-Man right into an ass whoopin.You keep talking about forum rules but nobody here is breaking any..
Spidermans usual showings are dodging automatic gunfire while making quirks and laughing, all of a sudden, it's Punisher fighting him, so now he can't dodge bullets anymore. And, you called me ridiculous? your just being a douchebag."
"Ok but he still wins.Your not getting the point."
You're making claims without adequate proof (trolling), what are you trying to imply?"
I'm not making claims without adequate proof..you must have misunderstood my claim.I'm saying Ed doesn't have to be as fast as Spider-Man to hit him.I have seen this done logically and you keep asking for proof of Ed's speed...It doesn't mean anything.And I only made one claim that Ed would beat Spider-Man by being able to hit him without being as fast as him..so there was no "claims"."
Are you familiar with the rules of the forum?"
Yes I am....
I made a claim and your not trying to refute it..your talking about something different entirely.
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IYou're alluding to attack and reflex speed being a non issue in a fight with someone that has human level durabilty with someone significantly faster and stronger (i.e. break concrete, lift cars). Why should I try to refute something so ridiculous? It just sounds like you're trying to bait me in lieu of providing adequate evidence that doesn't conflict with the rules of the forum."
Do you read you own posts.I have been reading you debates and so far you seem to consistently try to argue in debates you've already lost.I'm pretty sure that even if you were shown proof you'd find something wrong with it.I was in the Naruto vs. Spider-man thread and more than half of your posts are complete ridiculous.Your not listening to the argument being presented.The claim was that Spider-Man can be hit even if his opponent is slower than him..don't even start with bullet dodgin because actual good marksman can hit Spider-Man.Now...in case you didn't read it...Spider-Man fought the Punisher on a rooftop..the Punisher counted on him using his speed...so he made Spider-Man dive after him off a roof..making him leave his feet and put himself off balance.Since they are heroes..Frank didn't kill him..he just shot his web shooters...destroying them.Spider-Man's speed or Spider-sense couldn't have saved him because he put himself in a position where he couldn't dodge.Edward is a good and smart fighter and could lead Spider-Man right into an ass whoopin.You keep talking about forum rules but nobody here is breaking any..
Spidermans usual showings are dodging automatic gunfire while making quirks and laughing, all of a sudden, it's Punisher fighting him, so now he can't dodge bullets anymore. And, you called me ridiculous? your just being a douchebag."
Disprove me then, troll."
Your response almost proves you didn't read the post.You were disproven.Your clearly being a douchebag.Someone gives you proof that Spider-Man can be hit despite his speed yet your ignoring it.
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