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Should The Black Panther and Storm Marriage Have Been Annulled?

We analyze what was wrong with the marriage of these two characters as well as the way it all ended.

A comic event can make drastic changes to the status-quo very quickly. We've seen this happen countless times. It's no question that writers often use events to propel their own agendas and get things to change fast, rather than having to develop a huge story to evoke those changes.

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In a single issue characters can die, they can become possessed, they can switch alliances, their marriages can fall apart -- all in the blink of an eye; or in the case of Marvel's AVENGERS VS. X-MEN event, all in one issue. It's hard to believe that a marriage and relationship that took writer Reginald Hudlin years to build could all be torn down in literally one panel like the marriage of Storm and T'Challa was in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #9. If you haven't read the issue yet then, spoiler alert, the two are no longer married thanks to the High Priest of Wakanda's (T'Challa) annulment of their marriage. In fact, we mentioned the dissolution of their marriage in a recent article, but we didn't get into a whole lot of depth, which is why we're talking about it now.

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Regardless of how you felt about these two characters while they were married, you might agree that the way their marriage ended was rather bizarre. Aside from the fact that the whole scene was really disheartening and humiliating for Storm's character, it also made T'Challa look like a complete jerk; particularly since he blamed his now ex-wife for something he knew was coming (the destruction of Wakanda). But aside from the fact that both these characters looked bad, the way the creative team approached the dissolution of their marriage is a good example of the poor treatment of marriages in comic books.

Before we get into all of that, let's take a step back to analyze what really happened. Before the release of AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #9, Black Panther appeared in Jonathan Hickman's FANTASTIC Four #608. In this issue, T'Challa travels to Necropolis with Reed Richards and is met by a spirit of the Panther God, the same entity that bestowed the duties and responsibilities of the Black Panther onto T'Challa and then later, to his sister Shuri. There is a scene about halfway through the issue where we see the Panther God touch T'Challa's head; as though he is enlightening him and showing him a vision. In this vision, (which is illustrated on the following page in the issue) T'Challa sees a "great fire in the sky," (the Phoenix Force) and is told that "that fire will bring a great flood [to Wakanda]." T'Challa witnessed the coming destruction of Wakanda brought on by the Phoenix Force -- so when it actually happens in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN, why did it come as such a surprise to him? And why didn't T'Challa tell Storm about the vision? I feel like a flood is something that the Goddess of Weather could do something to help control -- even stop. Rather than approaching his wife, T'Challa dissolves their marriage acting as if it never happened: embarrassing her and treating it as though she is to blame for Wakanda's destruction. Now, that's not exactly the way two married people act, even in a crisis; and it's a poor reflection of married couples in comic books. When two married people disagree, they normally have enough respect for one another to talk things through. You can't just up and divorce someone because you feel like it. The scene in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #9 was a great disservice to both characters. It made T'Challa appear too arrogant for his own good, and it made Storm look weak and unimportant. T'Challa essentially placed the blame on Ororo for the destruction of Wakanda when he knew it was coming all along (refer to the vision in FANTASTIC FOUR #608). This entire scene didn't really make sense considering T'Challa knew the destruction was coming, and Storm did not. Also, he really took the time to dissolve their marriage after Wakanda had been completely leveled? Why was that even a priority under those circumstances?

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Yet, some would say the annullment of Storm and T'Challa's marriage is something they saw coming. Prior to the AVENGERS VS X-MEN event, Storm and T'Challa have been living relatively separate lives. While he took over as the "Black Panther: Man Without Fear" in Hells Kitchen (while Daredevil trekked 'cross country to try to figure things out), Storm was playing on Utopia with the X-Men, solving mutant and X-Men problems. The two would occasionally "Skype" as we witnessed on panel, but for the most part, T'Challa would ask that Ororo stay away. He often acted like he did not want her around, at least that's the way it's been in the last year or so of his appearances. Yet, it wasn't always this way. There was a time where these two would work together; when they had a respectful relationship.

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Storm 6-issue series

Prior to their marriage issue, you might recall seeing a six-issue miniseries titled STORM that focused on the first meeting and the relationship between Black Panther and Storm. It was the story of how these two met and fell in love as children, and it outlined a very young, timid Ororo who was unsure of herself, and a somewhat overconfident T'Challa who had embarked on his "walkabout," and was traveling throughout Africa. It was as much a story about T'Challa's journey to become a warrior and Ororo's understanding of her own power as it was about the two of these characters falling in love. There were some great moments in this limited series, as well as some scenes that foretold of the way T'Challa would speak to Ororo in AVX #9 (his constantly putting her in her place). And while this series may have been well intentioned, it wasn't the best example of a solid foundation for their relationship.

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A better example of their interactions and the way they could work well together was seen when the two appeared in FANTASTIC FOUR alongside the Thing and Johnny Storm. The run where these two characters take over for Sue and Reed while they go on their "second honeymoon" is a fantastic example of how it is possible to write these two characters well and depict them working together. Late writer Dwayne McDuffie stressed mutual respect between these two characters in his series; and it was obvious. He proved that while these two are very different, they can still be written in a way that demonstrates that they have respect for one another.

What is frustrating isn't just the way their marriage ended (which was pretty cold, mind you), but also the events that led up to the end of the only black marriage in Marvel comics. These two could have had a great marriage. They could have worked together (as we saw in FANTASTIC FOUR) and this event could have been used as a hurtle they would overcome together in order to build a stronger relationship as well as a stronger Wakanda. It's enough that there aren't a whole lot of black heroes in comics -- there aren't very many marriages in comics period. This marriage had the potential to succeed and to be strong. It had the potential to flourish and be interesting. It could have been a great example, but in the end it all fell flat. The real slap in the face is in the way it ended. As though the last six years never even happened. Now, it's not that I was a huge fan of these two together, I'm just saying I could have been if their marriage and their characters were treated differently. Instead, it feels like Marvel just didn't know what to do with Black Panther and Storm. What do you think?

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@THUNDERBOLT30: and @Umbraa: why don't the two of you take a break, alright? I don't want the two of you to be warned. : )

anyways, i gotta leave.

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No it didn't. Get your facts straight. It happened how I stated. Again, I'm not posting scans out of context talking about "bad husband". What was the purpose of posting a scan where she is infected by nano cameras? That's why he said that..yet you tried to play it off as something else. Then trying to make a point, until I called you on it. I'm not bitter, T'challa has a confirmed big role in Avengers...he's good...while you would rather prefer wall paper, I don't. I would rather see her go forward rather then backward. Your whinning about other stating their opinion is funny as hell. Like I said, no whinning or I will make sure I call you on it. I'm not feeling the fetish-animal cover...period. That's my opinion.

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Dude get your facts straight. Go back and read your unfounded "opinion" and read the responses you got. No twisting or dirt tossing of any kind is being done on my part, as I only used what actually happened in a book and not making this into an issue about race based on a book cover. You are obviously still bitter over the Vs issue and simply need to get over it. Your whining about "karma" only further proves that point. If Storm ends up in the background (hopefully not) I would still prefer that to how she was portrayed as Black Panther's wife... so stay pressed.

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Come on Storm fans and Black Panther fans, we should continue to support our favorite characters

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And I'm glad you are happy. Mean while I will set back and laugh at all the sad faces, when Storm is wall paper..karma.

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Bs. I'm not twisting anything I stated my opinion. You posted scans out of context and got called on it. Period.

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@Umbraa said:

I'm not. No more then you are with the scans you are posting. Lets keep it 100! The second scan she is infected with nano machine cameras...which Doom can see out off...and if you want to post stuff..how about posting Fall of the Hulks! Ooops...I guess Storm is a "bad wife" too right? Fall of the Hulks, he's crippled and captured right in front of Storm...she goes off to face the Red Hulk...Beast goes to save T'challa, he was there too...does that make her a bad wife? This was before Doomwar, in a bigger, much higher profile cross-over. No one said anything about her being a bad wife! Let's cut the B.S...bias. Age of X? AvX? Bad wife? The annullement was genius..she gets Nada.

Maybe Storm also hasn't really been that good wife but if we're going to weigh things up, I think BP has been the less responsible partner.

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I am keeping it 100. And the only scan I posted was in response to a question that was asked. I'm not twisting circumstances to try and make T'Challa look bad. Most of his portryal throughout their relationship did a fine job of that, with clear illustrations by Storm Calling's scans of Storm being "in chains like an animal as a queen and married to the black guy". The nanites present in Storm and all of the royal family is irrelvant to the point you were trying to make. We are well aware of the circumstances and reasons for T'Challa's actions there but that wasn't the point of the scans. You should pay attention to the context of your own posts.

You made a comment that the November WatX cover with Storm being chained "like an animal" being allegedly preferable to being married to a black guy and being a queen, which is rather stupid and ridiculous to even mention to be quite frank since I have seen no one posting comments stating that her being married to black man or being a queen was the problem :-/. And not that this is remotely relevant, if you recall from the Red Hulk story Storm blasted a hole in the floor to pursue T'Challa immediately after Red Ghost snatched him and she and all of the X-Men present went after him before they ended up engaging the Red Hulk. Age of X...I've already countered this desperate attempt at throwing dirt so you are still reaching here too. Panther's consistently poor treatment of his wife had nothing to do with a reality warp.

The annulment? lol...You act like we aren't happy their marriage is over, but it's not the for reasons you have cooked up. And keep in mind - she has NEVER needed him for his money, status, position....nada. Trust, she can make her own status without T'Challa.That being stated, before you continue your muckraking campaign to try and find some non-existent fault to accuse Storm of, to make our position clear (I'm sure Storm Calling feels the same way), I am happy the marriage is over because it was horribly written for the majority of the 6 years they've been married, Storm and T'challa were horribly written together (except for McDuffie's run), and most importantly, Storm was consistently horribly written. My interest in her marriage to T'Challa was soley for how it would benefit Storm. He's a cool character but I never cared about BP before they were married and still have no interest or plans to support this character unless there is relevance to it benefiting Storm.

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@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@jhazzroucher: She did pick the lock of her cell and escape but was immediately intercepted by Doom.

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I see. thanks. I thought they forgot about that Storm skill.

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I'm not. No more then you are with the scans you are posting. Lets keep it 100! The second scan she is infected with nano machine cameras...which Doom can see out off...and if you want to post stuff..how about posting Fall of the Hulks! Ooops...I guess Storm is a "bad wife" too right? Fall of the Hulks, he's crippled and captured right in front of Storm...she goes off to face the Red Hulk...Beast goes to save T'challa, he was there too...does that make her a bad wife?  This was before Doomwar, in a bigger, much higher profile cross-over. No one said anything about her being a bad wife! Let's cut the B.S...bias. Age of X? AvX? Bad wife? The annullement was genius..she gets Nada.

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@jhazzroucher: She did pick the lock of her cell and escape but was immediately intercepted by Doom.

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@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Storm Calling said:

@Umbraa said:

Lmao. All I have to say is its time to wake up. Eisehorn yes the truth hurts. But as long as folks stick their collective heads in the sand..well nothing will change. Meanwhile Domino is rumored to possible get a solo series. Storm is bound in chains like a animal. I guess that's preferable to being married to a black dude and being a queen. smh

Lol....now i'm SMDH! Yeah, her time with Black Panther was sooooo much better <rolls eyes>. Someone get T'Challa a medal for husband of the year ...

why can't Storm try to escape instead?

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I think you are overexaggerating the intention of the cover. More like on a cover paying homage to a classic x-story and using her lockpicking skills vs being thrown to the wolves by her husband...told to surrender and get put in chains and then placed in a prison designed to neutralize her mutant powers either made by her husband or made by the people she lead as queen.....yeah, I 'll take the WatX cover for $200 Alex.

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There's a different then on a fetish-cover and being captured in a freaking story. Try making sense.

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Yeah, just so she can turn out to be pregnant with a little Panther, which would force him to have to marry her before she has the baby. Then storm can give him hell for doing what he did in the first place,before there's any talk of marriage again if any!

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@Storm Calling said:

@Umbraa said:

Lmao. All I have to say is its time to wake up. Eisehorn yes the truth hurts. But as long as folks stick their collective heads in the sand..well nothing will change. Meanwhile Domino is rumored to possible get a solo series. Storm is bound in chains like a animal. I guess that's preferable to being married to a black dude and being a queen. smh

Lol....now i'm SMDH! Yeah, her time with Black Panther was sooooo much better <rolls eyes>. Someone get T'Challa a medal for husband of the year ...

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@jhazzroucher said:

@MagnificentStorm said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@MagnificentStorm said:

OREO'S ARE DELECTABLE ESPECIALLY WHEN PUT TOGETHER WITH VANILLA ICECREAM

Oreo is tastier with milk. : )

no way icecream is way better with them

Oh. sorry. i agree with you but not with vanilla ice cream, but chocolate flavored ice cream. : )

Eww gross jhazz just gross lol

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@Umbraa said:

Lmao. All I have to say is its time to wake up. Eisehorn yes the truth hurts. But as long as folks stick their collective heads in the sand..well nothing will change. Meanwhile Domino is rumored to possible get a solo series. Storm is bound in chains like a animal. I guess that's preferable to being married to a black dude and being a queen. smh

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Lmao. All I have to say is its time to wake up. Eisehorn yes the truth hurts. But as long as folks stick their collective heads in the sand..well nothing will change. Meanwhile Domino is rumored to possible get a solo series. Storm is bound in chains like a animal. I guess that's preferable to being married to a black dude and being a queen. smh

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@MagnificentStorm said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@MagnificentStorm said:

OREO'S ARE DELECTABLE ESPECIALLY WHEN PUT TOGETHER WITH VANILLA ICECREAM

Oreo is tastier with milk. : )

no way icecream is way better with them

Oh. sorry. i agree with you but not with vanilla ice cream, but chocolate flavored ice cream. : )

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@Eisehorn69 said:

@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

Insulting to whom exactly?

It's usually a good idea to think outside of the box and understand that the usage of language to convey ideas is a fluid stream of concious thought that should never be censored.

If the shoot fits then......

It's "shoe"...not "shoot". And no it doesn't fit but people are entitled to think what they like. And explanation for obviously derogatory term, that you state that you understand it's use in this particular context, really should not require an explanation of clarity then.

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@Eisehorn69 said:

@White Mage said:

@Eisehorn69 said:

@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

Insulting to whom exactly?

It's usually a good idea to think outside of the box and understand that the usage of language to convey ideas is a fluid stream of concious thought that should never be censored.

If the shoot fits then......

"Insulting to whom exactly"? If someone can google the term and learn how it is being used in this situation, then they should also be smart enough to realize it's not a compliment...This applies to you, and anyone else who is confused as to how this could offend a black man/woman.

Let me ask you a question.

What is it about Storm's current portrayal in the AvX event that doesn't fit the stereotype embodied in the term "oreo"?

If you're going to get offended about something, at least have the decency to try and ascertain why someone would even make such a play on this phrase in relation to Storm rather than jumping to convenient conclusions.

When I use terms, you can be assured that I know exactly what I'm doing so don't make the mistake of assuming otherwise.

I'd like to know why Storm is called an O'oreo? please!!!

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@White Mage said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

when did this term came out?

I don't know. There were a few people who called me that when I was younger.........a few stupid, stupid people.

Really? where they calling you "Oreo" or "O'Oreo"?

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@Eisehorn69 said:

@White Mage said:

@Eisehorn69 said:

@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

Insulting to whom exactly?

It's usually a good idea to think outside of the box and understand that the usage of language to convey ideas is a fluid stream of concious thought that should never be censored.

If the shoot fits then......

"Insulting to whom exactly"? If someone can google the term and learn how it is being used in this situation, then they should also be smart enough to realize it's not a compliment...This applies to you, and anyone else who is confused as to how this could offend a black man/woman.

Let me ask you a question.

What is it about Storm's current portrayal in the AvX event that doesn't fit the stereotype embodied in the term "oreo"?

If you're going to get offended about something, at least have the decency to try and ascertain why someone would even make such a play on this phrase in relation to Storm rather than jumping to convenient conclusions.

When I use terms, you can be assured that I know exactly what I'm doing so don't make the mistake of assuming otherwise.

Don't ask questions to which you already know the answer. "Offensive to whom exactly"? As if you don't already know? That's what I'm saying. I'll go into more detail later. For right now, this is all I can give.

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@jhazzroucher said:

@MagnificentStorm said:

OREO'S ARE DELECTABLE ESPECIALLY WHEN PUT TOGETHER WITH VANILLA ICECREAM

Oreo is tastier with milk. : )

no way icecream is way better with them

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@White Mage said:

@Eisehorn69 said:

@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

Insulting to whom exactly?

It's usually a good idea to think outside of the box and understand that the usage of language to convey ideas is a fluid stream of concious thought that should never be censored.

If the shoot fits then......

"Insulting to whom exactly"? If someone can google the term and learn how it is being used in this situation, then they should also be smart enough to realize it's not a compliment...This applies to you, and anyone else who is confused as to how this could offend a black man/woman.

Let me ask you a question.

What is it about Storm's current portrayal in the AvX event that doesn't fit the stereotype embodied in the term "oreo"?

If you're going to get offended about something, at least have the decency to try and ascertain why someone would even make such a play on this phrase in relation to Storm rather than jumping to convenient conclusions.

When I use terms, you can be assured that I know exactly what I'm doing so don't make the mistake of assuming otherwise.

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@jhazzroucher said:

@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

when did this term came out?

I don't know. There were a few people who called me that when I was younger.........a few stupid, stupid people.

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@Eisehorn69 said:

@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

Insulting to whom exactly?

It's usually a good idea to think outside of the box and understand that the usage of language to convey ideas is a fluid stream of concious thought that should never be censored.

If the shoot fits then......

"Insulting to whom exactly"? If someone can google the term and learn how it is being used in this situation, then they should also be smart enough to realize it's not a compliment...This applies to you, and anyone else who is confused as to how this could offend a black man/woman.

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@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

Insulting to whom exactly?

It's usually a good idea to think outside of the box and understand that the usage of language to convey ideas is a fluid stream of concious thought that should never be censored.

If the shoot fits then......

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@MagnificentStorm said:

OREO'S ARE DELECTABLE ESPECIALLY WHEN PUT TOGETHER WITH VANILLA ICECREAM

Oreo is tastier with milk. : )

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Oh lolololololol.

Life.

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@White Mage said:

The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

when did this term came out?

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OREO'S ARE DELECTABLE ESPECIALLY WHEN PUT TOGETHER WITH VANILLA ICECREAM

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The term isn't new....at all. But it's hella insulting.

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@Umbraa said:

But you do care, otherwise if it didn't matter you would not respond correct? And stop the nonsense about fictional characters. That's stupid, duh...but also apply that to the arguements you have made!

The truth hurts.

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But you do care, otherwise if it didn't matter you would not respond correct? And stop the nonsense about fictional characters. That's stupid, duh...but also apply that to the arguements you have made!

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@AgeofHurricane said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Storm Calling said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

I'm not worried about the whole "oreo" commentary about Storm that is primarily prevalent on CBR via BP enthusiasts who are hating on Storm because of the Vs issue. They can stay bitter and pressed. And there is no proof that Storm "lied" about what happened between her and BP, nor is their any logic to her doing so. The twitter comment was most likely pure retaliation for the criticism Brevoort has received from fans about how marvel has ruined a great opportunity with the marriage. Any claims to try to argue the vague and rather ridiculous commentary from Brevoort about Storm lying to be a fact is the act of the desperate and pressed. I mean think about it - why would Storm need to lie about the way things went down between her and BP? Until it's explained (if it ever is), it looks like Marvel editorial made a mistake between what Gillen stated happened in Uncanny X-Men and what was actually shown in their Vs issue.

^^This, the whole "O'oreo" is not something that has been out, as I've never heard of it. Oreo has and it's a very rudeandderogatory term that should be banned from being used here just as it was on CBR... As for Brevoort, he can go shove that sorry excuse for what happened down his throat. It's CRYSTAL clear why there were two different outcomes in each issue.

it's a new term, i guess. but i don't think it will be included in the dictionary.

And it would be nice if you and others could refrain from reinforcing it.

But I haven't used it literally. i just said "it"

But alright.

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@jhazzroucher said:

@Storm Calling said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

I'm not worried about the whole "oreo" commentary about Storm that is primarily prevalent on CBR via BP enthusiasts who are hating on Storm because of the Vs issue. They can stay bitter and pressed. And there is no proof that Storm "lied" about what happened between her and BP, nor is their any logic to her doing so. The twitter comment was most likely pure retaliation for the criticism Brevoort has received from fans about how marvel has ruined a great opportunity with the marriage. Any claims to try to argue the vague and rather ridiculous commentary from Brevoort about Storm lying to be a fact is the act of the desperate and pressed. I mean think about it - why would Storm need to lie about the way things went down between her and BP? Until it's explained (if it ever is), it looks like Marvel editorial made a mistake between what Gillen stated happened in Uncanny X-Men and what was actually shown in their Vs issue.

^^This, the whole "O'oreo" is not something that has been out, as I've never heard of it. Oreo has and it's a very rudeandderogatory term that should be banned from being used here just as it was on CBR... As for Brevoort, he can go shove that sorry excuse for what happened down his throat. It's CRYSTAL clear why there were two different outcomes in each issue.

it's a new term, i guess. but i don't think it will be included in the dictionary.

And it would be nice if you and others could refrain from reinforcing it.

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@Storm Calling said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

I'm not worried about the whole "oreo" commentary about Storm that is primarily prevalent on CBR via BP enthusiasts who are hating on Storm because of the Vs issue. They can stay bitter and pressed. And there is no proof that Storm "lied" about what happened between her and BP, nor is their any logic to her doing so. The twitter comment was most likely pure retaliation for the criticism Brevoort has received from fans about how marvel has ruined a great opportunity with the marriage. Any claims to try to argue the vague and rather ridiculous commentary from Brevoort about Storm lying to be a fact is the act of the desperate and pressed. I mean think about it - why would Storm need to lie about the way things went down between her and BP? Until it's explained (if it ever is), it looks like Marvel editorial made a mistake between what Gillen stated happened in Uncanny X-Men and what was actually shown in their Vs issue.

^^This, the whole "O'oreo" is not something that has been out, as I've never heard of it. Oreo has and it's a very rudeandderogatory term that should be banned from being used here just as it was on CBR... As for Brevoort, he can go shove that sorry excuse for what happened down his throat. It's CRYSTAL clear why there were two different outcomes in each issue.

it's a new term, i guess. but i don't think it will be included in the dictionary.

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@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

I'm not worried about the whole "oreo" commentary about Storm that is primarily prevalent on CBR via BP enthusiasts who are hating on Storm because of the Vs issue. They can stay bitter and pressed. And there is no proof that Storm "lied" about what happened between her and BP, nor is their any logic to her doing so. The twitter comment was most likely pure retaliation for the criticism Brevoort has received from fans about how marvel has ruined a great opportunity with the marriage. Any claims to try to argue the vague and rather ridiculous commentary from Brevoort about Storm lying to be a fact is the act of the desperate and pressed. I mean think about it - why would Storm need to lie about the way things went down between her and BP? Until it's explained (if it ever is), it looks like Marvel editorial made a mistake between what Gillen stated happened in Uncanny X-Men and what was actually shown in their Vs issue.

^^This, the whole "O'oreo" is not something that has been out, as I've never heard of it. Oreo has and it's a very rudeandderogatory term that should be banned from being used here just as it was on CBR... As for Brevoort, he can go shove that sorry excuse for what happened down his throat. It's CRYSTAL clear why there were two different outcomes in each issue.

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Oh well, I mean if you think this view is something new, it's not. Again, she was called out in a freaking Boondocks script, so no it's not QFT. Just hope it doesn't spill over into the TV show or other things. This is a valid concern, no matter how you like to write it off or say its only Panther fans. I heard this stuff way before they got together.

Who the heck cares ? We're talking about fictional characters here...life goes on. Nothing about this marriage or that extremely childish nickname should be of "valid concern", also, what was the point of bringing the matter to Comicvine anyways ? Now you're just as bad as the bitter Panther fans that revel in it.

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I just want the fiasco to end cos i think it's gonna be a never-ending discussion between Storm fans, BLack panther fans and others who care and not care about the marriage.

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Oh well, I mean if you think this view is something new, it's not. Again, she was called out in a freaking Boondocks script, so no it's not QFT. Just hope it doesn't spill over into the TV show or other things. This is a valid concern, no matter how you like to write it off or say its only Panther fans. I heard this stuff way before they got together.

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@White Mage said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

I'm not worried about the whole "oreo" commentary about Storm that is primarily prevalent on CBR via BP enthusiasts who are hating on Storm because of the Vs issue. They can stay bitter and pressed. And there is no proof that Storm "lied" about what happened between her and BP, nor is their any logic to her doing so. The twitter comment was most likely pure retaliation for the criticism Brevoort has received from fans about how marvel has ruined a great opportunity with the marriage. Any claims to try to argue the vague and rather ridiculous commentary from Brevoort about Storm lying to be a fact is the act of the desperate and pressed. I mean think about it - why would Storm need to lie about the way things went down between her and BP? Until it's explained (if it ever is), it looks like Marvel editorial made a mistake between what Gillen stated happened in Uncanny X-Men and what was actually shown in their Vs issue.

Did I ever mention how f*cking frustrated I get when I hear people use one of my favorite cookies as a way to insult other brown people, such as myself?

They can all go choke on a banana

Oreo is yummy though. : )

Anyways, they should have wrote a story that neither of them will be blamed. cos right now, it looks like Storm fans and BP fans are more intense on each of their opinions.

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@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

I'm not worried about the whole "oreo" commentary about Storm that is primarily prevalent on CBR via BP enthusiasts who are hating on Storm because of the Vs issue. They can stay bitter and pressed. And there is no proof that Storm "lied" about what happened between her and BP, nor is their any logic to her doing so. The twitter comment was most likely pure retaliation for the criticism Brevoort has received from fans about how marvel has ruined a great opportunity with the marriage. Any claims to try to argue the vague and rather ridiculous commentary from Brevoort about Storm lying to be a fact is the act of the desperate and pressed. I mean think about it - why would Storm need to lie about the way things went down between her and BP? Until it's explained (if it ever is), it looks like Marvel editorial made a mistake between what Gillen stated happened in Uncanny X-Men and what was actually shown in their Vs issue.

Did I ever mention how f*cking frustrated I get when I hear people use one of my favorite cookies as a way to insult other brown people, such as myself?

They can all go choke on a banana

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@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

I'm not worried about the whole "oreo" commentary about Storm that is primarily prevalent on CBR via BP enthusiasts who are hating on Storm because of the Vs issue. They can stay bitter and pressed. And there is no proof that Storm "lied" about what happened between her and BP, nor is their any logic to her doing so. The twitter comment was most likely pure retaliation for the criticism Brevoort has received from fans about how marvel has ruined a great opportunity with the marriage. Any claims to try to argue the vague and rather ridiculous commentary from Brevoort about Storm lying to be a fact is the act of the desperate and pressed. I mean think about it - why would Storm need to lie about the way things went down between her and BP? Until it's explained (if it ever is), it looks like Marvel editorial made a mistake between what Gillen stated happened in Uncanny X-Men and what was actually shown in their Vs issue.

QFT.

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We/SZ seriously believe dat d BP/Storm marriage was not just d 1st of its kind due 2 skin color as detractor hv said but it had near-infinite potential as many as d stars but Marvel just utterly & compleely REFUSED 2 support dem.

Only of d detractors had been a lil more patient HICKMAN(Marvel's no.1 top talent right now) wud b writing both BP & Storm 2gether but luk where dey r now Wood is off Xmen, Storm is stuck with Bendis & Jean will return which will push Storm 2 5th, 6th or 7th position behind d Cyclops, Jean, Logan, Rogue, Emma & possibly Magneto or/& Havok.

Hickman has repetitively said dat he has big plans 4 BP & has vividly expressed his interest in d xcter/BP.

Oh well, @ least Storm finally got 2 b an Avenger, a Queen, a member of d F4, got 2 actually whoop Death itself 2 save BP/Tchalla & finally meeting her paternal family(which Xavier & d entire collection of Xmen failed 2 find in d last 30 years) from d marriage 2 BP/Tchalla.

Wat did BP get...certainly nothing from d Xmen, lost his crown, lost vibranium, bcam a shelf of his former self, almost died until Storm saved him & had his Kingdom/Wakanda destroyed twice in a span of 3 years.

And after all dat dey r reduced 2 bickering & fighting each other like skoolyard kids with kintergarden reasoning.

Well we'll just hv 2 wait-n-c wat further announcements r cuming in d NYCC in October.

the potential is gone. : (

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Nah...Thunderbolt. When that stuff turns up in Boondocks scripts WAY before this went down' real talk. Not just that either".

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@Silver Zeal said:

@Umbraa said:

Good post Zeal!

Thanx!

By d way, wat does "O'oreo" mean?

somebody already gave you a definition at cbr.

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We/SZ seriously believe dat d BP/Storm marriage was not just d 1st of its kind due 2 skin color as detractor hv said but it had near-infinite potential as many as d stars but Marvel just utterly & compleely REFUSED 2 support dem.

Only of d detractors had been a lil more patient HICKMAN(Marvel's no.1 top talent right now) wud b writing both BP & Storm 2gether but luk where dey r now Wood is off Xmen, Storm is stuck with Bendis & Jean will return which will push Storm 2 5th, 6th or 7th position behind d Cyclops, Jean, Logan, Rogue, Emma & possibly Magneto or/& Havok.

Hickman has repetitively said dat he has big plans 4 BP & has vividly expressed his interest in d xcter/BP.

Oh well, @ least Storm finally got 2 b an Avenger, a Queen, a member of d F4, got 2 actually whoop Death itself 2 save BP/Tchalla & finally meeting her paternal family(which Xavier & d entire collection of Xmen failed 2 find in d last 30 years) from d marriage 2 BP/Tchalla.

Wat did BP get...certainly nothing from d Xmen, lost his crown, lost vibranium, bcam a shelf of his former self, almost died until Storm saved him & had his Kingdom/Wakanda destroyed twice in a span of 3 years.

And after all dat dey r reduced 2 bickering & fighting each other like skoolyard kids with kintergarden reasoning.

Well we'll just hv 2 wait-n-c wat further announcements r cuming in d NYCC in October.