Savage She-Hulk Will Join The X-Men?

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Posted by G-Man (36715 posts) - - Show Bio
Last week we saw an image of Psylocke and Spider-Man claiming to be X-Men. Today we're seeing Magneto and... Lyra, the Savage She-Hulk.
 
Again, what the heck is going on? Will the X-Men be opening their doors to non-mutants now? Lyra isn't a mutant. She might not be a 'normal' person but she's the genetically engineered daughter of Thundra and Hulk. I don't think that would make her a mutant. 
 
Could it be that the number of mutants is so low the X-Men need to allow non-mutants to join to fill in the ranks and pages of all the different X-titles? I'm not sure where this is going but it's going to be interesting to see how and why these other characters are joining up with the X-Men. I have to admit that I don't see this as a long term thing but you never know. Perhaps instead of seeing the same half dozen characters in the pages we'll actually see some different ones running around. Since Professor X is no longer running things, does the team still have to consist of only mutants? Can't we have non-mutant characters fighting for the dream of mutants and humans living together? Wouldn't them being on the same team further support that?
 
I wonder what character we'll see next appearing as an X-Men.
#1 Posted by Chane (539 posts) - - Show Bio

I am really not liking these promos at all.  
 
I mean, I like the style of them, just not what they are implying.

#2 Posted by ShadowX (1218 posts) - - Show Bio

This seems to be an intresting idea.
Noe how will magneto take this. I mean he is mainly about protecting Mutants , and he does not care for humans so how would he react seeing humans joinging a team that is supoused to represent the mutant community.

#3 Posted by iLLituracy (13537 posts) - - Show Bio

WHAT'S GOING ON?! D:
 
I like how they took that dumb tiara thing off of She-Hulk, though...it looked dumb to me.

#4 Posted by goldenkey (2927 posts) - - Show Bio

should be interesting and at least it's gonna sell thats for sure.
#5 Posted by advocatefish (142 posts) - - Show Bio

WHAT IS GOING ON? 
 
(Movie announcer voice) After the Xmens world is shaken to its very foundation in Second Coming.. THEY GET TO PARTY WITH SPIDER MAN AND SHE HULK! YEAH! :D 
 
lame.
#6 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio

maybe its intermixed with WWHulks.

#7 Edited by Decept-O (7279 posts) - - Show Bio

Why not add "non-mutant" characters?  Spider-Man has been, for lack of a better term, "mutated" due to the radioactive/genetically altered spider bite, and Lyra has been genetically altered or mutated, so in a sense, these characters have some degree of mutation.  
#8 Posted by mimschkin (626 posts) - - Show Bio

I know this is probably supposed to be about opening doors and broadening horizons blah blah, but I can't help but feel uneasy about this. These aren't MY mutant characters that I know and (for the most part) love.

#9 Posted by advocatefish (142 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decept-O Mutants are born mutants. And im sure its nothing but a team up for alittle while. 
 
And maybe @G-Man is right. Numbers are low. But i dont see how this helps.
#10 Posted by Gawdzilla (376 posts) - - Show Bio

I want a X-23 vs Lyra mini now!

#11 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio

Siege and Heroic Age. 
the only reason the mutants had to go to Utopia in the first place was because of Norman Osborn.
as of Herioc Age, where the hero's will now lead, they will be accepted back into humanity, and the X-Men
will once again be the team it used to be. the one that protected humanity and worked together with the other
groups and hero's.

#12 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (7902 posts) - - Show Bio

ooooook

#13 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gawdzilla said:
" I want a X-23 vs Lyra mini now! "
im in!!!
#14 Posted by Gawdzilla (376 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE: 
 
I see X-23 and Lyra being possibly BFFs
#15 Posted by Gylan Thomas (2727 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna put my name on the list of folk who're uncomfortable with this.

#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio

NO...DON'T F THE CHARACTER UP ALREADY!!!!!

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#17 Posted by sora_thekey (8178 posts) - - Show Bio
@Decept-O said:
"Why not add "non-mutant" characters?  Spider-Man has been, for lack of a better term, "mutated" due to the radioactive/genetically altered spider bite, and Lyra has been genetically altered or mutated, so in a sense, these characters have some degree of mutation.   "

That's right they both have been mutated one way or another... 
 
@advocatefish said:
"@Decept-O Mutants are born mutants. And im sure its nothing but a team up for alittle while.  And maybe @G-Man is right. Numbers are low. But i dont see how this helps. "
Well Mutants being born mutants hasn't always been the case in the X-Men...  
Nate Grey/X-Man was made in a tube and he's still considered a mutant... why not Lyra?
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#18 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Nearly every remaining mutant is on Utopia, why bring in people while continue to ignore those that have been there from the start??

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#19 Posted by DEGRAAF (7896 posts) - - Show Bio

i think they could find a better place for her than that. 
 
Maybe the Marvel Universe population of humans will be claiming that all super powered beings will be considered mutants.
#20 Posted by MichaeltheFly (6555 posts) - - Show Bio

I smell a cheep gimmick.

#21 Posted by DarkSyde79 (214 posts) - - Show Bio

I think this campaign is more flash than substance. But if the X-Men do let in non Mutants, then that might speak to bigger issues in the Mutant community. As far as Lyra goes, while she was genetically engineered, this does not exclude her from being considered a "Mutant". Most notably Nate Gray and X-23 where genetically engineered. Namor is considered a mutant because he was born with abilities that neither normal humans or Atlanteans are born with. The Beyonder is an Inhuman Mutants since he was born with abilities before being exposed to the gas that gives normal Inhumans powers. Lyra was born with abilities that neither Thundra or Bruce Banner (The Hulk) have and thus could be considered a mutant. Of course my whole argument could be thrown out the window by Marvel simply telling us whether these individuals possess an x-gene. That'll then tell us whether Skaar could be considered a mutant and a number of other characters. 

#22 Posted by Bobby X (1141 posts) - - Show Bio

No sir, I don't like it. 
 
Btw, just an aside...was there really that much of a demand for another hulk character that they had to go out and genetically engineer another one? 
#23 Posted by Joe Venom (1275 posts) - - Show Bio

perhaps these couples have the highest chance of success to give birth to mutant babies?

#24 Posted by DMC (1551 posts) - - Show Bio

This I like, only because I Lyra is one of my new favorite characters ^_^

#25 Posted by Queen's Halo (2431 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe they are taking the route that if you ever have been judge or discriminated because something you have or are, you're can be an X-Man

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#26 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

So, Marvel are now officially making EVERYONE into X-Men... kinda makes the whole 'fighting to protect the world that hates & fears them' a bit redundant now.  Who's next?  The Human Torch?

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#27 Posted by SuperXAsh (512 posts) - - Show Bio

lyra was still born half hulk... born with her powers. So she wouldn't be too out of place on the X-Men
#28 Posted by Drafta (690 posts) - - Show Bio

I neither mind or care.  I love Lyra, so I'm happy, as long as they don't bitcher her.

#29 Posted by Final Arrow (24388 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:
"So, Marvel are now officially making EVERYONE into X-Men... kinda makes the whole 'fighting to protect the world that hates & fears them' a bit redundant now.  Who's next?  The Human Torch? "

Oh come on no way Human tourch will make it on.... I was thinking more Hawkeye or THor... Oh Thor on the X-men XD. We could have like an X-Vengers, Wolverine, Spiderman, Thor, Ironman and Hawkeye... How I love marvel and the X-titles. 
 
#30 Posted by Murphiroth (78 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with those that are thinking that this will be at the most a temporary gimmick. Granted, it seems weird to have non-mutants on the team, but it does sort of make sense. The X-Men have always been about integrating into humanity, and finding a way to coexist peacefully, and what better way than to start with the team? I doubt it'll actually go anywhere of worth, unfortunately. And guys like Spidey will always stick up for mutantkind, so why not? 
 
 Fraction's still gonna be writing this though, right? His X-Men is.....meh. The man does better on solo books than team books.

#31 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@Final Arrow said:
" @xerox-kitty said:
"So, Marvel are now officially making EVERYONE into X-Men... kinda makes the whole 'fighting to protect the world that hates & fears them' a bit redundant now.  Who's next?  The Human Torch? "
Oh come on no way Human tourch will make it on.... I was thinking more Hawkeye or THor... Oh Thor on the X-men XD. We could have like an X-Vengers, Wolverine, Spiderman, Thor, Ironman and Hawkeye... How I love marvel and the X-titles.   "
They're right after Human Torch & the other 'Fantastic' three... 'cause no-one is fantastic unless they're an X-Man :p
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#32 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

Sweet! I  like Lyra.

#33 Posted by Argentino_18 (955 posts) - - Show Bio

WTF?

#34 Posted by Blindside002 (226 posts) - - Show Bio

The only She-Hulk we need is Jennifer Walters. I Don't mind Lyra, but I don't like her being called Savage She-Hulk, and I don't see why they needed Red She-Hulk....
#35 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (9176 posts) - - Show Bio

she been part of the avengers and fantastic four I guess it was not really a surprise that she hulk was going to be in the X-men next.
#36 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2224 posts) - - Show Bio
@sora_thekey said:
" @Decept-O said:
"Why not add "non-mutant" characters?  Spider-Man has been, for lack of a better term, "mutated" due to the radioactive/genetically altered spider bite, and Lyra has been genetically altered or mutated, so in a sense, these characters have some degree of mutation.   "

That's right they both have been mutated one way or another... 
 
@advocatefish said:
"@Decept-O Mutants are born mutants. And im sure its nothing but a team up for alittle while.  And maybe @G-Man is right. Numbers are low. But i dont see how this helps. "
Well Mutants being born mutants hasn't always been the case in the X-Men...  Nate Grey/X-Man was made in a tube and he's still considered a mutant... why not Lyra? "
Because Nate Grey was cloned from the DNA of two people who possessed an X-Gene.  Thundra and Hulk do not possess the X-Gene, so they're not Marvel's definition of a mutant.  They're mutates/meta-humans.
 
Possessing an X-Gene is what makes someone a mutant.
#37 Posted by sora_thekey (8178 posts) - - Show Bio
@ThanosIsMad: Yeah but Franklin Richards is a mutant and his parents are mutated super-humans... Thundra and Hulk are mutated super-humans... why couldn't she be considered a mutant?
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#38 Posted by d0npierre (399 posts) - - Show Bio

Brick, brick, brick... I smell a gimm...

#39 Posted by DevilmanEX (617 posts) - - Show Bio
@d0npierre said:
" Brick, brick, brick... I smell a gimm... "
yup.........its some heroic age gimmick I bet.....itll last 2 maybe 3 issues
#40 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm getting sick of Lyra..

#41 Posted by AmazingSpiderMike (144 posts) - - Show Bio

Look, I am not sure on wtf is going on. But someone knows for sure. Whether it is good or bad is still to be determined. Keep your fingers crossed.

#42 Posted by Thunderscream (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

I would understand if it was a character that has frequent interactions with the X-Men. Namor made sense since he's arguably the "first Mutant". Spider-Man runs into these guys all the time, especially Wolvie, so I don't mind if he hangs around for a bit.  
Where the hell does Llyra fit into this mix? Easy, she doesn't! Playing red-rover with the Avengers is fine, but not with completely unassociated heroes. Black Panther as Storm's husband = welcome to the X-Men, Captain Britain as Psylocke's twin bro = welcome to the X-Men, The Incredible Hulk's genetically engineered daughter with self-help subscribing Thundra........um, who invited you?

#43 Posted by Hawkling (178 posts) - - Show Bio

"She doesn't even go here!"

#44 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth said:
" I'm getting sick of Lyra.. "
Why?
#45 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" I'm getting sick of Lyra.. "
Why? "
She doesn't appeal to me, everything i've read with her in it has been boring and made me put the book down right away her character is a snoozefest.
#46 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth:  I haven't read too much with her. But I enjoyed her mini series.
#47 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody said:
" @geraldthesloth:  I haven't read too much with her. But I enjoyed her mini series. "
I didn't that mini is the reason I haven't enjoyed the character..it was boring, so is her in the Fall of the Hulks
#48 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5449 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, I was wondering what was going to happen with "non-mutants" joining the X-Men since Cloak & Dagger were put on in Dark X-Men......I really don't see a problem with the idea of non-mutants and mutants joining up to fight for the dream. 
 
After all the "X" = extra right?  So far all these people have something extra going for them.

#49 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth said:
" @Nobody said:
" @geraldthesloth:  I haven't read too much with her. But I enjoyed her mini series. "
I didn't that mini is the reason I haven't enjoyed the character..it was boring, so is her in the Fall of the Hulks "
Savage She-Hulk was epic. Mostly because of Noh-Varr but whatever:P
#50 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4848 posts) - - Show Bio

IM happy about SPidey being a possibility but not Lyra... i dislike her Jen is way better. IMO
 
but whatevers.

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