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#1  Edited By POHOCOM

What has Lobo done to make u think hes stronger than anyone on that list? ive seen Lobo fight Superman, Captain Marvel (Shazam), and Monel. He appeared to be in that strength class but certainly not stronger. I'd definitely say Juggernaut and Hulk are stronger.

Juggernaut is the most indestructible of the group by far. Even World War Hulk could not injure him. Lobo & Juggernaut fight forever.

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They actually did race in a cartoon decades ago on Saturday morning. I cant remember the details but I think the race was inconclusive with much interference by Wile E Coyote and Sylvester. Anyway Road Runner wins because he has the longer stride, and because he absolutely causes the whole highway to sway and even catch fire. Ive not seen Speedy do that!

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Steve Rogers definitely beats Batman. Bucky/Cap is a different story. Mabey. He beat Crossbones pretty easy, and Crossbones has beaten up Daredevil and Bullseye no sweat.

Until I see more of Bucky/Cap I'd go with Batman. For now.

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Being "outclassed greatly" in strength and speed by no means suggests that Captain America could not beat Spider-Man. Ive seen Royce Gracie and other fighters defeat opponents who were not only bigger, younger & stronger, but were skilled in more forms of martial arts.

Captain America would beat Spider-Man because he is the "Ultimate Human Combatant". Advantages in speed can be neutralized by the ability to anticipate an opponents moves and the skill and experience to react appropriately. Captain America with his peak human speed and reaction time is not as fast as Spidey, but he is fast enough that his vast fighting skills and experience would be a factor. Realistically, it would not be as easy as portrayed in Civil War or when Cap decked Spidey in Amazing Spider-Man # 187, but I think i would give the fight to Cap.

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SPIDER-MAN IS CERTAINLY CAPABLE OF GIVING CAPTAIN AMERICA A VERY TOUGH FIGHT IF BOTH MEN WENT ALL OUT. BUT, OTHER THAN WOLVERINE, HOW OFTEN HAVE WE SEEN ANY SUPERHERO GO ALL OUT? SPIDER-MAN HAS THE SPEED, INTELLECT, & STRENGTH & WEAPONS TO BEAT CAP. HOWEVER, PEOPLE CONTINUE TO OVERLOOK THE INTANGIBLES THAT MAKE CAPTAIN AMERICA "THE ULTIMATE HUMAN COMBATANT". CAP'S TENACITY, RESOURCEFULNESS, CONFIDENCE, AND EXPERIENCE ARE ALL FAR BEYOND SPIDEY'S AND MOST OTHER CHARACTERS. THAT'S WHY IN NATURE SOME ANIMALS LIKE BADGERS, BOBCATS AND WOLVERINES, CAN OFTEN DRIVE OFF AND EVEN INJURE LARGER PREDATORS LIKE WOLVES AND BEARS.

COMBINE THAT WITH FIGHTING SKILLS MATCHED BY VERY FEW CHARACTERS IN COMICS, AND IT'S EASIER TO SEE WHY CAP BEATS SPIDEY.

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SPIDER-MAN BEATING FIRELORD WAS ONE OF THE WORST TRAVESTIES IN THE HISTORY OF COMIC BOOK BATTLES. FIRELORD'S BODY TEMPERATURE CAN MELT BULLETS BEFORE THEY TOUCH HIM! SPIDER-MAN WOULD HAVE BEEN SEVERELY BURNED AFTER ONE PUNCH. ALSO, FIRELORD HAS TAKEN PUNCHES FROM THE MIGHTY THOR. REMEMBER, AS A HERALD OF GALACTUS FIRELORD'S BODY WAS CREATED TO SURVIVE THE RIGORS & TRAUMA OF OUTERSPACE, LIGHT SPEED TRAVEL, AND THE CRUSHING GRAVITY OF EVEN BLACKHOLES! EVEN IF SPIDER-MAN COULD TOUCH HIM, HE REALISTICALLY COULD NOT STOP FIRELORD.

AFTER ALL OF THE RESEARCH PUT INTO CREATING THE ORIGINAL OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE VOLUMES, ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT, EVERY NOW & THEN, WRITERS ARE PERMITTED TO COMPLETELY IGNORE THE ABILITIES OF CHARACTERS. AS FOR CAP VS SPIDEY, IVE SEEN THEM FACE OFF AT LEAST 4 TIMES. CAP EASILY BEAT SPIDEY TWICE, THE OTHER 2 ENCOUNTERS WERE BRIEF AND INCONCLUSIVE. I'D PUT MY MONEY ON CAP TO BEAT ALMOST ANY CHARACTER AT OR BELOW THE 10 TON LEVEL OF STRENGTH IN A NO HOLDS BARRED PHYSICAL FIGHT. (AS LONG AS THE OPPONENT IS NOT BULLET PROOF).