Jekylhyde14

@Ironhawk22:

Thank you!

Whoa! I'm sorry I missed most of this. I would've put up a good fight for the Silver Age, lol...

I moved to South Korea and have been VERY busy.

My five votes:

1. All-Star Superman

2. Final Crisis: Superman Beyond 3-D

3. Superman (1939) #156 ("The Last Days of Superman")

4.SUPERMAN (1939) #174 ("Super-Mxyzptlk....Hero!")

5.Superman (1939) #166 ("The Sons of Superman!")

Human beings should be treated like human beings no matter who they are attracted to. Much love to the LGBT community. More needs to be done to spread understanding and acceptance.

@BigCimmerian said:

@Jekylhyde14 said:

Well, Superman has done it before in JLA/Avengers, but that wasn't the current New 52 version. To lift Mjolnir one has to be worthy of lifting it. You shouldn't be able to do it by sheer strength alone, at least not from everything I know about the comics (never seen the Avengers animated movie). Do I think that the New 52 version of Superman is worthy? Yes. He has a courageous heart and he cares about the less fortunate. To me, that makes him worthy of lifting Mjolnir.

@Supes1903 said:

If Cap (who has killed, many many times) qualifies as worthy, Superman should easily be counted. However, like stated above strength should not be factored into this question as it's not strength related. Oh and the animated Avengers movies are not canon nor are they a good representation of the "rules" regarding Mjolnir.

You got it all wrong, being willing to kill is necessary in order to lift Mjolnir, but only if their death serves higher and noble purposes.

And can I get some evidence or at least an issue number to back this up? When did they establish that you must be willing to kill?

@turoksonofstone:

I miss the red underwear look too...

Also, I'll have to add that Superman lifted the DC Universe's version of Mjolinir in Action Comics #761 an used it in a number of battles. Not quite the same thing, I know, but I think it's good enough to be used as further proof. Honestly, how could Superman not be worthy? He's Superman.

@turoksonofstone said:

@Jekylhyde14 said:

@turoksonofstone:

"Classic" Superman? Turok, I know that you're aware that Superman wasn't created in 1987. That's why statements like this puzzle me. In my opinion, it was Byrne's Superman who was always the pretender. Morrison's New 52 Superman is much closer to the genuine article.

Any and all versions previous to DCNU are "Classic" IMO, though there were several versions they were all revamps of the original concept and only had minor variations. DCNU Superman is essentially a different character. Byrne's Superman more closely resembled the golden and silver age versions in costume, character, and concept.

I completely disagree. Byrne made serious changes to Superman's character from the man who existed Pre-Crisis. First off, he allowed Ma and Pa Kent to live into Superman's adulthood which no previous version had. He also made Superman land in a "birthing matrix" so technically Superman could be born on Earth as an American. Byrne's Superman also feared and felt self-conscious about his Kryptonian heritage whereas all previous versions revered their alien roots. He was also pretty self-deprecating compared to the blatant egotism Superman used to show.

The New 52's version is much closer to the Pre-Crisis version in personality. He has tremendous self-belief as evidenced by his willingness to trust in his blind reactions to defeat Captain Comet. He has bold plans to try and solve the world's problems just like how the Pre-Crisis Superman was obsessed with ending crime for good. His development and childhood is much closer to Pre-Crisis than Byrne' who only gained his powers when he was a teenager and never joined the Legion of Superheroes as a boy. Morrison's Superman is a leftist, social crusader just like the Golden Age version. He's also not as attached to the Clark Kent identity as the Post-Crisis Superman was.

I'll give you the fact that his costume is a lot different. That's about it. In my opinion, the New 52 Superman is the return of Superman from all the Post-Crisis mistakes.

@Black_Claw said:

Uh oh, is DC trying to make Superman a player? Lol

He always was sort of a player. Just ask Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lori Lemaris, Lyla Lerrol, Cat Grant, Wonder Woman, and the dozens of other women Superman has had romantic flings with throughout his history.

@turoksonofstone:

"Classic" Superman? Turok, I know that you're aware that Superman wasn't created in 1987. That's why statements like this puzzle me. In my opinion, it was Byrne's Superman who was always the pretender. Morrison's New 52 Superman is much closer to the genuine article.

Well, Superman has done it before in JLA/Avengers, but that wasn't the current New 52 version. To lift Mjolnir one has to be worthy of lifting it. You shouldn't be able to do it by sheer strength alone, at least not from everything I know about the comics (never seen the Avengers animated movie). Do I think that the New 52 version of Superman is worthy? Yes. He has a courageous heart and he cares about the less fortunate. To me, that makes him worthy of lifting Mjolnir.

After reading the issue, it does validate what I've said all along: It was just a first kiss and the relationship isn't being rushed. If you don't like the concept then you probably never will, but this proves that it is going to be developed and its not just an instant romance. So far, it's the most compelling interaction within the pages of Justice League.