Death Certificate

@CadenceV2:

@CadenceV2 said:

Well i am bowing out now. It seems I stated what I could and others have agreed about Round 2 even if Round 1 is a stomp for Thanos.

Death Certificate I know you hate DBZ and dont rate it high at all and many others know it now from other threads with DBZ.

King-Stranglehold da first I know you and I get into heated debates where you resort to name calling. Even if half of the people in the SW vs GR Thread were convince by me.

reikai I really dont know you that well. However you prove to either not read my post and quote me wrong, or you simply tried to make crap up of what I stated to make your points look better. Dont know as of yet.

Raiden can slice through large metal gears like nothing, Alex doesn't has a anything to compare to that.

Also the last boss of metal gear rising had a healing factor...

@NeonGameWave said:

You stated something wrong and I had to address it.

So saying DBZ characters can't be superman = being wrong. Nice to see you have non-bias point of view

You downgraded the entire DBZ universe, their not simple statements but they are statements with official backing ranging from guidebooks and the author himself

Melodramatic aren't we? Regardless most of statements are hardly corrlate to on panel feat with the manga.

, Eastern and Western aren`t necessarily the same the difference is that Marvel and DC have multiple writers writing on the same book or a different series in which feats can contradict or get mixed up with each other while manga`s are usually done by one writer and the sole creator

If you are trying to imply manga writers don't contradict themselves, then you clearly don't read of fiction regardless of east or west.

in which although the feats may lack quantification, they still are clearly distinguished as well as shown to a degree in which further points could be argued or made.

Aka somebody who only reads mainstream shonen. Do I need to use a statement for Satan from the Bastard series, to show he's a galaxy buster? No because their is on panel feat showing it. Seriously it's always shonen fans that use this cop out.

I find it funny how people like to label DBZ fans, when they themselves use ABC logic and contradictions in which their mindsets are swayed by an accustomed founding of understanding in this case that founding would be comics and how feats work, however the falseness in your argument is clear as I also find it funny,

Any examples?

how many like to bring up DBZ and downgrade it as much as they can.

Since when is a Superman vs Thor/Hulk thread, people drop goku's name for no reason?

@CadenceV2:

LOL please. You comment they cannot take heat attacks, they cannot survive planet destroying attacks, not that Captain Marvel here HAS NO PLANET DESTROYINGFeats.

You tend to exaggerate answers if they don't fit your point of view. I didn't say DBZ characters are streel level, you did. Unless you show a on panel feat of DBZ characters doing this

Then my point still stands.

Dont, need to. We know Cap Marvel is not a planet buster.

So you admit Gohan doesn't have planet durability, Good we can move on.

I answered nothing, you cliam there are out of context, then dodged the question I asked how. WW has always been weak to bullets and stab weapons pre 52. Fact.

You admitted that you got them from a WW vs Hulk thread, which most people would know that, tend to get people to look for lowshowings for WW. How do I know that scan was out of context? For simple fact you didn't mention the red head being Circle, one of WW villains.

You don't have to say it. If this was SS3 Goku vs Rougu of X-Menyou would go with Rogue. That is all you do on these DBZ threads regardless of the proof and quantified feats brought.

All depends of what version of rouge were talking about, because is a version of her that uses every power she got, otherwise most versions of rouge would get curb-stomped, but at the very least, you shown me your own bias.

I would spen the time to post how superior Gohan was to the stats of Super Sayain one Goku with a long post of quantified feats and then relate Super Buu feats at beating SS2s, damage out put, speed, ect and then relate that to Gohan Owning Super Buu.

Which is long a winded speech that focus on more on goku and buu, than gohan himself. If you prove that Gohan is stronger, then simply post his feats.

So you just hate DBZ then. Yeah I pit Buu Saga characters like Mystic Gohan, SS3 Goku, Super Buu, Kid Buu, and SS3 Gotenks as slightly above Superman honestly.

See comment NeonGameWave.

@NeonGameWave said:

@Death Certificate: The difference though is that you have actually shown to hate or dislike DBZ it is clear within the nature of your arguments and it is heavily implied.

Difference is when I debate, I don't derail a thread on somebody's emotions whenever or not, they like a series, not mention I always prefer on panel feats over statements, due to the fact that writer either westen or easten, tend to contradict themselves. Beside I always find funny that every DBZ debeate, somebody has bring superman into this, simply because they can't answer a question of the main thread, or want to cry bias( despite the fact their guilty of their own).

@NeonGameWave said:

@Death Certificate said:

I know manga characters that are powerful than Superman, Dragon Ball isn't one of them.

Really? You cannot be serious, I think you hate DBZ.

Goku can beat Superman, Bills would murder as well as wreck Superman, Kid Buu or Buuhan would beat Superman, Frieza and Cell can definitely challenge or even beat Superman (most likely) and Mystic Gohan as well as Vegeta are comparable to Superman.

The idea of saying DBZ can't beat "x" comic book character = DBZ haters, never stops to amuse me.

I won't bother with the rest of your message, because that would derail the thread further.

@YoungChief: I have crap load of messages in my inbox, it's gonna take while to answer all of them.

Was it confirmed that missing limbs correlates to less ki?

Well Frieza was helpless when lost most of his limbs from his Death Saucer.

He was weakened but Goku gave him some ki.

He used most of it to backstab Goku, and if his dad didn't spot him in space, he would have died.

Anyway we've seen that a rock can hurt goku in SSJ while he's asleep, they don't have their Ki up when asleep.

That's filler

@CadenceV2:

Your video proved that Kid buu needs to teleport to different planets to destroy them. That's complety different from this

and that blast was more than a Planet Buster.

Throughout this whole debate you barely mention anything noteworthy from shenron.

@CadenceV2:

Im here to prove how much a hater you are and love jumping in these DBZ vs whoever threads and spew the nonsense of DBZ being street Level Characters when they blow up Planets by Frieza Saga and Multiple Planets by Buu Saga.

When did I say that?

Wow look at all the posters above who see thru ya and know this is not some mismatch.

And not single one proved that gohan has planet durability.

Also please tell me how those scans are out of context. I love to know. Since they are used and agreed on in the Hulk vs WW threads. Please educate me if you know more on them.

You just answered your question

Instead of just saying, "DBZ are stupid, there so stupid, and they get beaten by Batman, cause they are stupid" thats pretty much what your post are.

Again when did I say that?

Lowball after lowball and make statemented like...

yet none of the Z-fighters have survived a sun, or even a planet explosion. To say there isn't a contradiction is fallacy in itself.

Like it means something. Oh yeah, and Frieza cut in pieces survived a Planet Explosion. What now?

Frieza isn't a Z-fighter, not to mention both goku and gohan died in planet explosion.

Seriously come up with Legit post on why Cap Marvel wins instead of claims (which are wrong half the time) and lowball.

I could ask the same thing for gohan,

Is it because you hate Manga? I do not even own a single one but still recognize them for what they are. Japanese Comics. Its OK if the Asians have some proven Superman Level beings. Its not end of the world for Western Comics. We still have Superman and Spiderman and they are more popular overall in the world. It is OK guy.

I know manga characters that are powerful than Superman, Dragon Ball isn't one of them.