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Ok, I think most knows that in YJ, they are close-ish with Manhunter dropping by to check on M'gann in Mount Justice and etc even if we haven't seen it for some time now.

In Smallville, they have no blood relation but they are the last of the Green and White martians, Miss Martian was "raised" by some scientist then took his late daughter's looks, the two bonded and then he died and then Manhunter took her in as his niece and, much like in YJ, she is dating Conner Kent/Superboy (but that's not here or there).

In the Arrowverse, they are a romantic couple even if J'onn wasn't thrilled when he found out that she was passing as a Green Martian and etc etc.

But how are they in the comics? (Doesn't matter: New Earth, New 52, Rebirth, go wild) I know that they know OF each other, but are they close? Do they talk besides once in a blue moon...

Killmonger

Overall, I have to give this to MCU.

@outside_85: Joker's reason to kill people is because 'it's funny', no one would need to give a 'reason'. if anybody asks Gordon 'why would the Joker kill Dent'... 'Idk, why would he kill all those other people'.. aside from the bank thing that can theoretically be explained as greed. Anyways, I think we'll have to agree on disagree ^^

@outside_85: It's just as easy to blame the crazy guy that kills and tortures people at the drop of the hat. If Ramirez could be bribed to keep her silence about Dent, why wouldn't they be able to bribe Ramirez to keep silent... about Dent?

So:

• Go out and say: the Joker (the sociopath, psychopath, murderous lunatic) killed Dent;
• Convice his wife and son to do the same;
• Bribe Ramirez.

The same amount of people would 'know'.

So what if the timline doesn't fit? Gordon would have to fabricate their statements anyways and who is going to say otherwise? If the Joker is clinically insane enough not to be put to the death row, then why is he sane enough to TESTIFY of all things?

Srly! Put the whole thing on Joker! It preserves BOTH: Bats and Dent's image, it's closer to the truth, and it could be twisted as 'Dent became a martyr fighting for justice, while Bats with all the vigilantism shtick accomplished nothing'. Bat will come out as more or less useless in face of all the injustice, while Dent 'sacrifice' is heroic and still fighting for the system without vigilantism. And Bruce could STILL 'retire' after that with 'Batman clearly is not what this city needs, he didn't make an actual difference'. Lie, but after that particular twist, the public won't question it...

People are entitled their opinions, that doesn't mean you gotta drag past DRUG problems into the equation. And one thing I agree: WHY did Bat have to pretend to be the villain? To preserve Dent's image? That doesn't make sense, just put the whole thing on the Joker. No one will question it and it's closer to the truth than putting the whole thing on Batman...

TDK was an amazing trilogy, but it had plenty of WTH moments.

In what? (similar tastes).

Using a shield as primary weapons is not a good reason to be a couple, at most it means that they can compare notes in good fighting techniques with it and that's it;

“Hating Germans”… can go sideways to say the least. In WWI, all the countries involved were primarily interested in acquiring more colonies (number of colonies = more power in that time), the tension was sky high, all they needed was an excuse, everybody was killing everybody, that’s war. What happened in WWII is one of the most shameful things in history, most Germans fighting were Nazis that truly believed in that ‘superior genetics’ theory spread by the higher ups as an excuse to retaliate for the results of the WWI (although the reason they gave was to ‘expand the territory’) and persecuting Jews, African descendants, gypsies and homosexuals, so Steve’s ‘dislike’ for Germans might go beyond Diana’s and that can make things pretty awkward, regardless of how Wonder Woman (the movie) focused on them (Germans) as ‘the enemy’… which was kinda weird and not very fitting for WWI’s context, Steve (Trevor)’s comment about the Germans being the ‘bad guys’ is more in tune with WWII (where Germany, Italy, Japan and Russia were trying to impose their respective totalitarian ideals to the ‘rest’ of the world/Asia/Europe) but whatever, the point still stands because through the movie, Diana was a lot more interested in finding and then defeating/killing Ares than in the Germans themselves (whose actions she 'excused'/explained as being influenced by Ares) so… yeah. Also, putting their theoretical meeting in the modern days, ‘hating Germans’… because of the World Wars…not very good things, for a number of reasons, not the least if which because Captain AMERICA hating Germans…astronomical political consequences since one of the (if not ‘the’) biggest allies of US is German.

We don’t actually know if Diana was a virgin (if it was talked about in interviews or something then forgive me ^^), in movie all she says on the matter is that she read a book whose author concludes that men are vital for procreation but useless for pleasure, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything, for all we know, she could have had experience with her fellow Amazons… Steve had a girlfriend? I mean, remember that he had a 'dance date' with Peggy then a kiss with Natasha then another kiss with Sharon ...

THIS!

And also (about Diana/Bruce Banner)... sort of, but not really. I don't see it going past a few dates to test the waters. Too many conflicts in personality, too different interests, too different everything. The whole 'the opposites attract' can only go so far, eventually there HAS to be at least ONE point in common. Not even their morals are all that alike. And 'because they're heroes' doesn't hold water. Plastic Man and Starfire are heroes and yet...

No to Thor/Diana either. Thor comes from a very sexist culture, Sif aside, I don't think that Diana would be a-okay with any of it. Thor might not be be like that but it's hard to fight what everybody around you keeps telling so that's bound to be a problem. Neither are much of a talker, and while as couple they COULD work, there has to be MANY talks and sharing their respective culture and finding a compromise when they can't agree on something or the other, because there will prolly be a major religion differences and while that is becoming less and less of an issue, we are talking about an entire PANTHEON of difference, the base of their culture and powers that both grew up with, for centuries! "Who are you praying to?", "For a friend that wishes better luck in love", "Oh, Freyia is known to bestow her guidance", "No, I mean Aphrodite", "Who?" So in theory they could work, but before things get serious, some major talking would be in order, a lot of finding middle ground and 'agree to disagree'.

Diana/Steve (Rogers)... uh, ok, 'using a shield' is not a good argument to get involved. At most, it would just be exchanging fighting techniques. Perhaps there can be SOME bonding about the cultural shock they experienced but Diana came from old Greek culture to WWI and Steve came from WWII to the 21st century so... about feelings, sure, theoretically, no.