@avenging_x_bolt: He does still hate Bruce, its an important part of his character, without it, hes basically nothing.
And DC has not done anything fans dont like to Jason, other characters yes, but not Jason, Jason is still the antihero determined to punish Bruce.
you mean they have done anything YOU dont like to Jason. i recall alot of fans bitching about how he acted when Grant Morrison wrote him or when Judd Winick had him have sex with Talia.
@wessaari: What are you talking about?! You are confusing me with someone else, go look at my page and you'll know Im a different person and that I only recently started on this site. Its perfectly true that there is no good story that can Jason, there are no characters that can help change him and nothing in the DC Universe that can help him change becasue you got to remember he has no friends, not many people in the DC Universe knew him and he constantly isolates himself from everyone else except recently using Roy and Starfire for his own personal gain. Yes the writer can change a character, but I read RHATO volume 1 and Jason has not changed at all, he still has that anger, rage and hatred inside him since he came back from the dead. There is nothing in RHATO that points to "redemption" for Jason as you should know this, he still kills criminals, if he really redeems himself, he will stop killing criminals, make peace with Bruce and try and rejoin the Batfamily, to which he has done none of these things. There is evidence he wanted to get rid of Kori, he wanted Dick to talk to Kori, possibly leading them to reestablishing a relationship between them resulting in Kori leaving Jason and Roy. He tells Kori that shes his "friend" so he can keep using her, and when he told Dick he would take care of her, he LIED, he is probably going to try and find another use for her, as previously he tried to get rid of her to Dick. Jason is at times both a good and bad liar, and at the time he was good at lying that he cares about Roy and Kori, and that they are his "friends" so he can keep using them. It may make no sense to have the title Redemption in Volume 1 but a lot of comics have titles that make no sense to their story. Jason shows no emotion to Tim or Isabel, he hates Tim, uses Isabel to find out what dating is like and the so called emotions you say he has on his face are fake, for the persons benefit except for Tim, Jason wears his Red Hood around Tim so you cant say he shows emotion towards him. I never said I was never wrong about Jason, its only at this important point that Im completely right having know his character very thoroughly. Jason hasnt changed, the writers lie, writers often lie about their characters and storylines etc., the stories have not shown it, you have no evidence. I believe you are the troll since you are trying to push a bogus personal idea of yours on everyone else of you saying Jason has changed, your troll idea doesnt work on me, because im not falling for it, you clearly show that you barely know the character of Jason. There is no proof that he didnt lie to himself and if you really knew the character you will know that Jason would lie to himself, the writers havent told us hes lying because its left for us to find out if we really knew Jason, Jason has perfect reason to lie, he lies for his own gain and reasons. Bruce was trying to comfort Jason, thats all he wants to help/save Jason but Jason keeps refusing because he still hates Bruce for not avenging his death, for replacing him and etc. Jason is a complex character, people arent meant to know what hes thinking unless you are a fan who really knows Jason. I do know what Im talking about, because I read RHATO very thoroughly and you apparently havent, and you dont really know Jasons character if you think Jason is trying to "redeem" himself, when there is no evidence, no proof, and you are trying to force your opinion on other people, that is true trolling.
@dngn4774: im not the troll here, you and another couple people are trying to force your troll opinions on people that Jason is "redeeming" himself, when there is no evidence, no proof, of anything that happened, like making peace with Bruce or him starting to care about other people, no proof at all, im clearly not the troll here, YOU are disrespecting Jason, hell be the one disapointed with your foolishness.