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Posted by RedLanternSuperman (348 posts) 1 year, 4 months ago

Poll: Would DC flop if they dropped Batman and Superman (115 votes)

Without these two DC would be in ruins 51%
No DC can still sell well without these two 20%
Probably if you think about it 23%
Very unlikely 5%

#1 Posted by Wolverine08 (45556 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, DC would flop if they dropped Batman and Superman. That would tantamount to them committing suicide.

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#2 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5314 posts) - - Show Bio

Without Batman DC would be hurting, never mind Superman.

#3 Posted by TheCannon (19403 posts) - - Show Bio

They would still sell well. They have so many great characters, these two aren't a big loss. All it would mean is they can put focus onto other characters that are often ignored.

#4 Posted by Dernman (15709 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah they got other properties that could sustain them. They just wouldn't be a big two. It would be just the big one. Marvel that is.

#5 Posted by XImpossibruX (5252 posts) - - Show Bio

They would still sell well. They have so many great characters, these two aren't a big loss. All it would mean is they can put focus onto other characters that are often ignored.

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#6 Edited by impossibilly (893 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be the equivalent of Disney saying they didn't need Mickey Mouse anymore.

Or Nintendo announcing no more Mario or Zelda games.

#7 Posted by Bezza (3859 posts) - - Show Bio

Without their two flagship characters they are doomed. Batman and Superman are the biggest two characters in the comic book world. The others just aren't known enough by the non comic buying public.

#8 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (20243 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

#9 Posted by spinningbirdcake (1430 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be the equivalent of Disney saying they didn't need Mickey Mouse anymore.

Or Nintendo announcing no more Mario or Zelda games.

The second was absolutely. But Disney hasn't really needed Mickey for a while have they?

And yes DC would definitely flop if they dropped those two. Not to hijack the thread, but are there two characters that, if Marvel dropped, they would flop as well? Spider-Man and Wolverine maybe?

#10 Posted by tparks (5369 posts) - - Show Bio

They would still sell well. They have so many great characters, these two aren't a big loss. All it would mean is they can put focus onto other characters that are often ignored.

I agree they have some great characters that are often ignored, but I don't think Batman and Superman fans are just going to shrug their shoulders and say, "No big deal, I'll just read these random characters instead of my two facorite characters I've been reading since I was 10." There is a reason they are often ignored, they will not ever sell like these two. No comic character will ever sell like these two, no matter who the publisher is.

DC is not like Marvel. Marvel has tons of characters that people like. If one is dropped, there is about 50 more characters close in popularity, so it's not going to kill them. DC has the two biggest names in comics, outside of that, it's a huge drop in popularity. Wonder Woman and Flash are the next two biggest names, but they are about 100 times less popular then Supes and Batman. Every character from every publisher is at least 100 times less popular then Supes and Batman.

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#11 Posted by sagejonathan (2026 posts) - - Show Bio

It would probably still be a great universe and people would still pick up their books, but they wouldn't be as big without them.

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#12 Posted by GodTriggerHulk (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

They could just barely survive. But only as a comics publisher, no movies or video games.

#13 Edited by Lvenger (21181 posts) - - Show Bio

Although I'd be far more dismayed at the loss of Superman from DC, if Batman were the only one DC lost, it'd be game over for DC. Both Superman and Batman being dropped from DC would be tantamount to DC digging their own grave and chucking themselves into it. Marvel would suffer if they lost Spider-Man or Wolverine or Iron Man but they have many other well known characters to replace them in popularity and status.

#14 Posted by QueenCorp15 (1035 posts) - - Show Bio

No bcuz they still would have green lantern & flash who are EXTREMELY popular heros

#15 Posted by bigtewell (749 posts) - - Show Bio

well when you look at it if they drop batman and superman they are loosing like 10 of their most popular comics since each has 4 or 5 books out right now. they could survive but theyd be making the money of lower independent comic comppanies

#16 Posted by Squalleon (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think so.
Yes they are the biggest franchises but DC has so much characters they can exploit.
We might get a good book that doesn't include Supes or Bats for a change.

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#17 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6535 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they could still operate as a company, but overall sales would probably be considerably lower.

I wonder which characters would get multiple titles in that situation.

#18 Posted by silkyballfro94 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

I bet Martian Manhunter could easily become the face of DC, if that ever happened.

#19 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (6052 posts) - - Show Bio

They would start pushing Apollo and Midnigter. Lol

#20 Posted by Squalleon (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they could still operate as a company, but overall sales would probably be considerably lower.

I wonder which characters would get multiple titles in that situation.

Green Lanterns probably.
Justice League could work too.
Instead of giving multiple books DC could use the cast of characters they have forgotten like Metal Men, Doom Patrol etc.

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#21 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think so.

Yes they are the biggest franchises but DC has so much characters they can exploit.

We might get a good book that doesn't include Supes or Bats for a change.

#22 Edited by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

it would be a considerable loss, but there are plenty of detectives and kryptonians around.

#23 Posted by Batman242 (4862 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Wonder Woman can finally shine on DC

#24 Edited by Dernman (15709 posts) - - Show Bio

it would be a considerable loss, but there are plenty of detectives and kryptonians around.

I would imagine if you lost those characters you would love their universes. Like kryptonians. I guess that depends on what the OP means by drop.

#25 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: fine. use icon then. same thing.

#26 Posted by XImpossibruX (5252 posts) - - Show Bio

@silkyballfro94 said:

I bet Martian Manhunter could easily become the face of DC, if that ever happened.

Nah, Flash.

He's superhuman, but he's still human. And appeals to way more people, hell Martian Manhunter hasn't even got his own series yet.

#27 Posted by JetiiMitra (8871 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. If the rights to those two were lost tomorrow, and suddenly no more of the bajillion Batman or Superman comics could sell, that would be devastating. And not only would no more comics be made, no more money from merchandise, animated series, etc. would come in. It'd be like if Lucasfilm lost Star Wars and Indiana Jones in the 80s. Maybe not total ruins, but compared to where they used to be, only slightly more popular than indies.

#28 Posted by silent_bomber (2195 posts) - - Show Bio

They'd survive, but probably wouldn't be a major player anymore.

Even without Superman and Batman they still have higher numbers of known characters than most of the Indie companies.

Also Green Lantern is actually doing very well these days, often top 20 in monthly sales I believe

#29 Edited by HeckTate (1425 posts) - - Show Bio

They have other comics that would still sell, but no company that drops their two biggest icons is going to be doing as well after the fact. You may as well have asked if Apple would still be a major competitor if they announced they're no longer going to make iPhones or iPods. Sure they'll come out with some other stuff that will sell, but they'll lose a lot of business just because that's how everyone knows the company.

So short answer: yes and no, the question is stupid.

#30 Posted by BaneStrokeLoboGrundyBatArrow (1402 posts) - - Show Bio

@hecktate said:

They have other comics that would still sell, but no company that drops their two biggest icons is going to be doing as well after the fact. You may as well have asked if Apple would still be a major competitor if they announced they're no longer going to make iPhones or iPods. Sure they'll come out with some other stuff that will sell, but they'll lose a lot of business just because that's how everyone knows the company.

So short answer: yes and no, the question is stupid.

Agree except last part the question isn't really that stupid.

#31 Posted by Dernman (15709 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: fine. use icon then. same thing.

I don't agree. Ignoring the fact they are not the same thing, A lot of the love Superman and Batman gets is from already being an icon. Sure they are great characters and there are people who love him just for that but many people are drawn to him because he's been injected into the pop culture and people's psyche for longer than many have been alive. Dropping these characters and just implanting some character in their place isn't going to fly. Thats ignoring the fact there have been many similar characters over the years that haven't caught on. They're not interchangeable as we like. Heck if they were I'm convinced DC would have done it long ago. Especially with Superman.

#32 Posted by kcjr (350 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sure they would still exist, but it would cripple them. I'm not insulting DC either, they have plenty of known characters, but there is a reason Batman and Superman are featured in so many monthly books. They are popular characters and they sell books. Marvel can't lose Spider-man and the various Avengers books.

#33 Posted by Strider92 (16830 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. They don't care enough about their other characters to promote them.

#34 Edited by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by Dernman (15709 posts) - - Show Bio
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#38 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (2091 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they would crash and burn these are the only 2 guys that have helped DC get as far as they have in the buisness. Solely because of these 2 are they able to match Marvel. But if they would get rid of these 2 other characters like Aquaman Green Lantern Flash and Wonder Woman would get a well needed push that they all deserved but that still wouldn`t be enough,

#39 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (18714 posts) - - Show Bio

They would never drop them. But DC would certainly do alot poorer and it could possibly flop, yes.

#40 Edited by cfrehse (1005 posts) - - Show Bio

Dc would flop. But if marvel did something similiar they wouldn't flop i think. They have a good amount of characters that have the same level of popularity. A justice league without bats and superman would hurt dc on top of not having there other books

#41 Posted by jeanespinosa21 (217 posts) - - Show Bio

imagine marvel will drop x-men. Yes they would still sell but they wouldn't be gigantic like they are now

#42 Edited by CheeseSticks (2588 posts) - - Show Bio

If they screw up those two, they are doomed. Green Lantern is already screwed. Who's going to save them? Flash? Wonder Woman? Lol.

#43 Posted by deaditegonzo (3690 posts) - - Show Bio

Without Batman DC would be hurting, never mind Superman.

It pains me to admit it, but this is correct. Without Batman alone, DC fails.

#44 Posted by Extremis (3363 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep. That's the problem with DC. They got no depth.

#45 Edited by Spideysense44 (3562 posts) - - Show Bio

YES! Dc wuld flop superman and batman are in the top 3 heroes ever created if u lose both then idk what they would do. Good question by the way I mean think abt it no Bats= No bat family as well also NO JOKER

#46 Edited by lifeofvibe (3514 posts) - - Show Bio

We have plenty of other bat related characters if they dropped these this is my pull list would look like

Worlds finest huntress and power girl

Supergirl

Superboy

Nightwing

Red hood and the outlaws

Teen titans

Batwoman

Batwing

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BUT if they dropped every single bat related superman related comic they would DIE HARD

#47 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

They'd still survive but they'd be hurting horribly.

#48 Edited by Knightfall225 (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

Losing batman and superman is like america losing new york , california, texas , And florida . sure there are alot of other good states but not as good as said states. And im guessing that means the batfamily would be gone to because batman wouldve never been there to create them into who they are so that means no robin , batwing , nightwing , ect.

#49 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (8675 posts) - - Show Bio

@v_scarlotte_rose said:

I think they could still operate as a company, but overall sales would probably be considerably lower.

I wonder which characters would get multiple titles in that situation.

Green Lanterns probably.

Justice League could work too.

Instead of giving multiple books DC could use the cast of characters they have forgotten like Metal Men, Doom Patrol etc.

Defiantly. Maybe we'd finally get a Martian Manhunter title.

#50 Posted by DoomDoomDoom (4211 posts) - - Show Bio

They could just barely survive. But only as a comics publisher, no movies or video games.

Kinda what I was thinking.