@theacidskull:
Yeah but in the same sense an apology or an insult will have as much weight as you give it, at the end of the day?
So a better way of going about this is..what? Excusing any and all comments as just talk? Unfortunately that's not how normalization and desensitization works.
And I don't think its reflective of how people truly think, not always at least. Go back a few years and a 13-14 year old me was extremely homophobic.
It definitely is to some degree, at the very least you think such speech is appropriate which is an issue in it of itself. 13 year old you should have been challenged and held accountable for your words to some degree.
Doesn't mean that I haven't grown up since then. I said some crazy stuff back then, the only difference is that I didn't have social media at the time so no one can find anything about me.
And I would never know if you actually changed or not if I didn't know you past those comments (and even then you can learn something new about people everyday). As a public figure people only know what you put out there for them to judge you by. If you have a platform then you should use it wisely or face the consequences. This isn't a new concept, but people are starting to be become less and less tolerable.
And lets say you do find something, would you ban me now because of it? I know that's an extreme example, but the idea is the same.
That analogy doesn't work for several reasons. We're not employees and what you do outside of this site is your business. However if this was a company and I did oversee you then I would definitely bring it up as a point of concern should you become a prospect for some sort of public position. If nothing else that protects my ass and my job should I be traced back to your stupidity, and whether you get fired or not depends on your current position in the business and how many people know about it. That's just me being an objective overseer and doesn't take into consideration things like endorsement deals and possibility of burning bridges with potential backers..how I personally feel about it is a different story.
Don't get me the wrong way, these jokes were gross and despicable, but there is no way in hell Disney didn't know about them and I'm certain they have been addressed before
They did. They first came up 6 years ago.
Why fire him? They knew that he said outrageous sh*t to shock people right?
Because it resurfaced and gained more traction as the MCU has become more and more popular. This was obviously a damage control move but that doesn't make it wrong.
I agree that there should be a line in the sand, but these lines differ due to personal/cultural/etc factors.
Some acts are objectively terrible things, and in the context of the U.S pedophilia is generally one of them.
Firing someone for something they said years ago seems just seems a little, I don't know, extreme?
That depends on the severity of the comments and how many were made. Apparently there were thousands and they started 9 years ago.
Yeah I get it, the things he joked about isn't something you should make light of, but realistically speaking joking about these things wasn't that big of a deal back then, not as it is now.
I'd say that depends on who you ask, and even so IMO that's part of the problem and goes back normalization and desensitization.
If I'm missing something here also fill me in incase I'm speaking too much out of my ass - all I know so far is that he made some screwed up jokes to mess with people and now someone got upset about it and they are firing him.
He made more than just some jokes. If you haven't read them I'd suggest you do if you want to get a better picture of what we're all talking about.
If he actually means the crap he says then that's a whole different deal entirely.
I mean no one can actually prove without a doubt whether he really believes in what he said or not, especially since it happened years ago. But even in jest those comments are in poor taste to put it lightly, and as a director for one of the biggest corporations in Hollywood you have to be more responsible than that.
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