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#101 Edited by Bezza (3338 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is one of the biggest contradictions in the comic world. Theoretically he should be able to defeat just about any foe below perhaps top Comic power level, yet as we saw in the Avengers movie, he always seems to make a meal of any battles! Hulk in particular has a good slam down record against the mightier Thor. Hal Jordan on his own has given Superman a hard time in the past (and its the pre 52 lanterns, not the one who has been butt kicked by everyone recently), so based on this I've gotta go for the two lanterns defeating Thor.

#102 Posted by WillPayton (9133 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: I never said Hal just shoots lasers. I said that is all you can do without imagination is just shoot lasers. Imagination is a huge part of what makes a GL actually powerful. Jon's constructs aren't sturdy just because he has lots of will. He's an architect, and actually imagines every single detail of his creations. His will is great, but it wouldn't be much if not for his imagination. And Hal has moderate levels of imagination. Doesn't really touch Kyle, who is a natural artist, and is bursting with it. And of course it has limits, though Kyle has much fewer limits, for his ring is better and he's more imaginative.

You can keep talking about imagination all you want, but it's will power that makes the ring work and determines its power output.

As far as making extremely complex constructs, all that does is waste time since the user has to spend more time thinking about the construct rather than the fight and what his opponent is doing. This is why Hal doesnt do that. He's out to win and wasting time making pretty constructs isnt on his priority list. It's why he's the best.

#103 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, a lot of idiocy in this thread. Team should win.

#104 Posted by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: Being imaginative is a waste of time, when it comes to being a Green Lantern? Jon's imagination is why Superman had to punch with all he has in order to break his constructs. I've actually seen Jon beat Superman without the kryptonite radiation gimmick. Jon was a marine and an architect. He thinks in a 3-D way, and has the discipline to think that way in a crisis. He doesn't "waste time". Neither does Kyle.

#105 Posted by WillPayton (9133 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: Being imaginative is a waste of time, when it comes to being a Green Lantern?

If you actually read what I wrote then you'd know that's not what I said. But I guess it's easier to argue with a straw man than actually have to read stuff and then think about it. Very difficult, I know.

He doesn't "waste time". Neither does Kyle.

Yes they do.

#106 Edited by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: Oh, they waste time, do they? Two of the most accomplished lanterns waste time, even though their feats are continuously off the charts. Jon being able to re-form a solar system is wasting time. Kyle being able to turn the Justice League's blood, according to Batman, into gasoline at a whim is wasting time. Now, who is really the fan boy here?

#107 Edited by WillPayton (9133 posts) - - Show Bio
#108 Posted by Lvenger (18206 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced: Do you have the scan of Superman being unable to break Kyle's constructs? I'd be interested to see it and where it's from if you don't mind posting it.

#109 Posted by Chibio (920 posts) - - Show Bio

Bloodlusted Thor should take it. I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be able to simply smash through their constructs and their shields. I'm a huge proponent of speed + strenght = ridiculous impact alá Superman + Flash + others with speed and even though Thor doesn't really have that kind of a speed mid battle, his hammer still amplifies his impact, which should destroy all of the constructs, something characters with his level of strenght have been able to do anyway. I also don't know what the Lanterns can do to take him out faster than he could take them out. Thor is as durable as it gets.

#110 Posted by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio
#111 Edited by Dredeuced (5305 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@dredeuced: Do you have the scan of Superman being unable to break Kyle's constructs? I'd be interested to see it and where it's from if you don't mind posting it.

It was Ultraman.

Ultraman is Superman's equal physically, possibly his superior due to how ruthless he is. They've had lots of fights over the years and that's the general depiction. Kyle being able to hold him for hours is pretty neat.

#112 Posted by Lvenger (18206 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@dredeuced: Do you have the scan of Superman being unable to break Kyle's constructs? I'd be interested to see it and where it's from if you don't mind posting it.

It was Ultraman.

Ultraman is Superman's equal physically, possibly his superior due to how ruthless he is. They've had lots of fights over the years and that's the general depiction. Kyle being able to hold him for hours is pretty neat.

Thanks! That is a rather impressive feat for Kyle. And to think I rated him below Hal at one stage. I'd say they're physical equals though. Ultraman may be more ruthless but Superman is more experienced. His fight with Ultraman in the mini series Trinity showed that. Still, Ultraman had no luck breaking them, Superman wouldn't fare much better either.

#113 Posted by mightyrearranger (1452 posts) - - Show Bio

Wish Mogo, Bzzd, or Sodam Yat were here... :(

#114 Posted by sync1 (2804 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd have to say Thor wins here

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#116 Edited by MonsterStomp (15723 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor. Superman is constantly stated to be around his level of power and in the Red Son Superman story, Superman is seen breaking out of a prison made by all the lanterns. Now I know this isn't in the main continuity and people could argue that the lanterns lack in experience and in power, but none the less, it's an impressive feat. This just leads me to believe Thor would be able to do the same with only two.

After all the evidence against Thor you still put up this fail argument.

#117 Edited by Ironbuster225 (17 posts) - - Show Bio
#118 Posted by Ironbuster225 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: ah crap, I misunderstood, my bad. I'm new so I'm still trying to get the hang of it. Next time I'll read what other members said in the thread before I post.

#119 Edited by MonsterStomp (15723 posts) - - Show Bio
#120 Posted by Ironbuster225 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: It's cool, next time I'll just have to put up a better argument.

#121 Posted by MonsterStomp (15723 posts) - - Show Bio
#122 Posted by DarkRaiden (6489 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor should win due to Mjolnir's inherent and main ability of absorbing and redirecting and reflecting energy. GL's main weapon is energy so I don't see how they win. Not to mention godblasts, planetary Lightning, Planet busting strength, supernova+ durability, and FTL combat speeds. Thor should take this.

#123 Posted by WillPayton (9133 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor should win due to Mjolnir's inherent and main ability of absorbing and redirecting and reflecting energy. GL's main weapon is energy so I don't see how they win. Not to mention godblasts, planetary Lightning, Planet busting strength, supernova+ durability, and FTL combat speeds. Thor should take this.

Since when does Thor have FTL combat speed???

Everything else you said pretty much applies to Green Lanterns... energy absorption and manipulation, planetary-level strength and power, supernova durability, etc. And GLs also have extremely fast speed and reaction times when enhanced by the ring.

#124 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

The team stomps.

#125 Posted by XLR87T3 (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: I agree with you, but the reaction time thing is really debatable to many users thanks to that blasted Superman who ruins everyone's fun. Nerd!

Also, I was thinking bloodlusted Thor would do a power-move (yeah, that's what I'm calling it) and destroy the Green Lanterns with the winds of a thousand worlds or godblast their butts!

#126 Edited by camera_guy (233 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor could smash any construct any day.