Hulk all the way.
Superboy vs Hulk
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"Define "natural." The guy's a freaking clone made up of two males from different species.When I mean natural, I mean superhuman strength without the use of his tactile telekinesis. I know this because I recently saw him move at a speed he has never moved before... on foot. Also, he and Superman went toe to toe with Gog once. Superboy may not have been strong enough to be beat Gog, but his punches were definity strong enough to make Gog flinch. The classic Superboy was never that strong.
If his other kryptonian abilities were enhanced, Johns completely failed to show them. After reading the entirety of both series, his power level is practically unchanged. He fights smarter but he doesn't seem to fly any faster or hit any harder."
"SeSAW said:No he wasn't."Scarlet Thor said:Gery Hulk was the weakest""Yep.... apparently all Kryptonians can react faster than thought so I don't see how can one beat a Kryptonian"
LOL My thoughts exactly
Superboy shouldn't beat any version of the Hulk not even Grey Hulk."
"BatgirlBabs said:"superboy died for a reason. He was lame :P"Good call."
Yeah she says some half intelligent thing's once in a while.
"Batgirl was crippled for a reason. Because nobody cared about her."
She's still in comics, though... Superboy isn't.
"Zoom said:"Batgirl was crippled for a reason. Because nobody cared about her."
She's still in comics, though... Superboy isn't."
If I had a nickel for every time a good character in comics died or a bad character continued to show up, I wouldn't need to work to eat.
Case in point. Connor Hawke. Jason Todd.
"Static Shock said:LOL"Zoom said:"Batgirl was crippled for a reason. Because nobody cared about her."
She's still in comics, though... Superboy isn't."
If I had a nickel for every time a good character in comics died or a bad character continued to show up, I wouldn't need to work to eat.
Case in point. Connor Hawke. Jason Todd."
"If I had a nickel for every time a good character in comics died or a bad character continued to show up, I wouldn't need to work to eat.And, unlike Superboy, they are still in comics.
Case in point. Connor Hawke. Jason Todd."
"Zoom said:"If I had a nickel for every time a good character in comics died or a bad character continued to show up, I wouldn't need to work to eat.And, unlike Superboy, they are still in comics."
Case in point. Connor Hawke. Jason Todd."
Right. Jason Todd, a character so terrible that lots of people were willing to pay a dollar and call DC and say "KILL HIM" and he gets to stay in comics.
On the other hand, a great character like Superboy (or Connor Hawke, who isn't in comics anymore. He's braindead) isn't.
3 nickels for me.
"Right. Jason Todd, a character so terrible that lots of people were willing to pay a dollar and call DC and say "KILL HIM" and he gets to stay in comics.
On the other hand, a great character like Superboy (or Connor Hawke, who isn't in comics anymore. He's braindead) isn't.
3 nickels for me."
Yeah, well, better there than not there. And, there's plenty of people that have different opinion about Jason Todd than you. Just like me saying Connor Hawke is terrible (In which he is, and is made braindead because he doesn't have much credibility due to the fact that he's underrated. He ain't bringing the company money. LOL).
I'm going to Bump this to discuss this a bit more. Here's my view on it.
The Hulk wins for reasons stated.
The Hulk is Stronger. He's lifted and supported a Mountain, though he was Struggled, he did support the weight.
The Hulk is more Durable. Yes, Wolverine has hurt him, Captain America (PIS), but he's taken punishment.
The Hullk isn't easy to BFR. I doubt Superboy can make a BFR here.
The Hulk has FTL reflexes, i think.
Overall his Strength, Durability and Rage should give him the edge.
ni he does not super boy is way to fast.Hulk wins.
@comicdude23 said:
I'm going to Bump this to discuss this a bit more. Here's my view on it.
The Hulk wins for reasons stated.
The Hulk is Stronger. He's lifted and supported a Mountain, though he was Struggled, he did support the weight.
The Hulk is more Durable. Yes, Wolverine has hurt him, Captain America (PIS), but he's taken punishment.
The Hullk isn't easy to BFR. I doubt Superboy can make a BFR here.The Hulk has FTLreflexes, i think.
Overall his Strength, Durability and Rage should give him the edge.
Show me a scan hulk having faster then light reflexes not a scan of him hitting some body who can move fast because in comics writers never let characters use speed you are just making things up now. Here is a speed scan.
@dccomicsrule2011: Conner can't fly or run at any such speeds.Unless you have actual scans.i never said he could but he has way better reaction and speed then the slow brute hulk.
@dccomicsrule2011: And where is your proof that Hulk is slow?@Nice_Mister_Manderson said:
@dccomicsrule2011: You posted scans of completely different characters,not Conner.He's not faster,he only has better reaction time.Hulk will eventually get a hold of him.Conner is half Krptonian he has way better speed him and Kid flash had a race and it was close he has way better speed. Hulk is a slow brute who has trouble cathing Wolverine and Spider-man Hulk is a slow brute i will look for the scans where SS made him look like a snail.
You obviously are bias against Hulk.
Half isn't half as good as full.
Conner's speed is INCONSISTENT.He only has raced Kid Flash once,and it doesn't make since how he kept up considering:
Normal Flash is slower than Kid Flash.
Superboy is slower than Superman.
Normal Flash is overall faster than Superman.
@dccomicsrule2011: Superboy is horribly weak compared to SS,smart guy.You can't use a different character and use it as a feat. You obviously are bias against Hulk. Half isn't half as good as full. Conner's speed is INCONSISTENT.He only has raced Kid Flash once,and it doesn't make since how he kept up considering: Normal Flash is slower than Kid Flash.Superboy is slower than Superman.Normal Flash is overall faster than Superman.i am not comparing him i was giving a scan of reaction speed i want a scan like that for Hulk get it now conner gave DD a good fight DD>>>>>>Hulk he raced Kid flash and it was a good race so he is way fatsre then Hulk get over it.
@Outside_85 said:
@dccomicsrule2011: He's doing pretty well when he's smacking just about everyone who comes close to him, unlike Connor who gets clobbered by just about everyone. And ofc SS makes evryone looks like snails when he travels space at the speed of light.
It was not travel speed and the scan i am looking for is a scan of SS with out his board.
DD usually clobbers all the Justice League,so Conner fighting him at all is PIS.Him racing Kid Flash is PIS as well,or it is CIS created by Kid Flash.
Hulk has tagged the Sentry,Ms. Marvel,and many other people of fast speeds.It's consistent,so it's fact.
Not only that,but Superboy doesn't use his speed in a fight,he just goes in and throws his fists.He's a dumb kid who would try to use his strength,show me him utilizing speed IN COMBAT.
@dccomicsrule2011: DD usually clobbers all the Justice League,so Conner fighting him at all is PIS.Him racing Kid Flash is PIS as well,or it is CIS created by Kid Flash. Hulk has tagged the Sentry,Ms. Marvel,and many other people of fast speeds.It's consistent,so it's fact. Not only that,but Superboy doesn't use his speed in a fight,he just goes in and throws his fists.He's a dumb kid who would try to use his strength,show me him utilizing speed IN COMBAT.Where trhey movinh fast when hulk taged them NO!!! hulk is a slow brute i already know Bart was going seasy on him but it is still a speed feat characters never use speed in comics that is why Supes has a hard time vs people like Mongul all pis super boy gave Superboy Prime a decent fight three times in fact Conner hgot this.
@dccomicsrule2011: And what makes you think Conner is going to go fast,Mister Spelling Error?He NEVER goes fast,he just runs in like the dumb kid he is and uses his fist.EVERY TIME.Read the battle forum rules characters do not use speed because of pis cis in the battle forums he does.
PS i do not care about grammer on this site i am lazy to lazy to care about grammer.
@dccomicsrule2011: It says nothing about speed in the battle forum rules,dazy.Tell me,what does PIS or CIS stand for?I doubt you know both.YES THEY DO READ IT AGAIN SUNNY!!!
It says that Superman does not utilize his speed because of PIS.Which is true.
But Superboy has NO speed feats,aside from one instance of PIS
@dccomicsrule2011: You misread it. It says that Superman does not utilize his speed because of PIS.Which is true. But Superboy has NO speed feats,aside from one instance of PISHe gave kid flash a run for his money that is a speed feat....
@dccomicsrule2011:
- PROVE IT ISN'T.
- And it doesn't even matter,that wasn't COMBAT SPEED.
- Prove it is.
- He can keep hitting him and backing back the hulk is to slow.
- He's only showed that kind of speed once.Fact.Therefore,PIS.The writers wrote it just because Superman raced The Flash.Plot Stupidity.
- What the hell does Backing Back mean,son?
I think that Connor poses a serious threat against a calm Hulk as his flight, speed, strength (via the TK) and heat vision give him quite a lot of advantages.However, I think that the Hulk will exceed him in strength after a few minutes and his healing factor and durability will keep him in the fight until then.After that, I think the Hyulk can win in the end unless Superboy can oull off a win via BFR.
Agreed.
I am not a troll if Superboy is half Krptonian that means he have half the speed of superman dont it? Also i keep scans i just have to many to count i will look to see if i can find some Superboy speed feats what do you get off calling me a troll he has Superman powers there for he has good speed he gave Superboy prime a decent fight and even drew blood and DD.@Nice_Mister_Manderson: Calm it down. He's a troll you know your right. Don't do anything to feed him.
@dccomicsrule2011: calm down there little kid go find some scans and when you want to act civilized someone will care what you have to say.You think I am mad? I am not mad it is just i am not troll.
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