The Sea King vs The Fantastic Thing
Namor vs Thing
Namor's faster and he can fly. So he can combine his stength speed and flight, to fly around Thing and hit him.
Compare the combatants,
Strength: The Thing can lift approx 100 tonnes. Namor can lift this amount and maybe a bit more when in the sea. On land his strength level is around 85 tonnes, and this level does diminish with time outside of water - as he drys (reaching about 40 tonnes within several hours).
Endurance: When wet Namor has the advantage but on land, the Thing would have the advantage, as Namor's endurance will dimish with time (as per strength).
Durability: Both are very tough, able to withstand blows from super strong opponents but again I think that the Thing has superior protection.
Agility and Reaction Time: Namor definately has the advantage, being siginificantly faster than the Thing.
Fighting Ability: Both are combat veterans of many hand to hand encounters and I would say they are evenly matched.
Others: Namor can fly.
If the battle takes place on land, due to the durability of the air and their endurance, I could see the fight extending over a few hours before a victor emerges.
It would be quite a close fight on land and if the Thing prevents Namor getting wet to recharge, the Thing might just win. If Namor can recharge, with his speed and flight, he could then win (so location and availability of water plays a big part).
If near or in the sea, Namor wins without question.
The_Creator says:
"Compare the combatants, Strength: The Thing can lift approx 100 tonnes. Namor can lift this amount and maybe a bit more when in the sea. On land his strength level is around 85 tonnes, and this level does diminish with time outside of water - as he drys (reaching about 40 tonnes within several hours). Endurance: When wet Namor has the advantage but on land, the Thing would have the advantage, as Namor's endurance will dimish with time (as per strength). Durability: Both are very tough, able to withstand blows from super strong opponents but again I think that the Thing has superior protection. Agility and Reaction Time: Namor definately has the advantage, being siginificantly faster than the Thing. Fighting Ability: Both are combat veterans of many hand to hand encounters and I would say they are evenly matched. Others: Namor can fly. If the battle takes place on land, due to the durability of the air and their endurance, I could see the fight extending over a few hours before a victor emerges. It would be quite a close fight on land and if the Thing prevents Namor getting wet to recharge, the Thing might just win. If Namor can recharge, with his speed and flight, he could then win (so location and availability of water plays a big part). If near or in the sea, Namor wins without question."
Excellent post Creator. I am inclined to agree with you.
Eternal Chaos says:
"The_Creator says:"Compare the combatants, Strength: The Thing can lift approx 100 tonnes. Namor can lift this amount and maybe a bit more when in the sea. On land his strength level is around 85 tonnes, and this level does diminish with time outside of water - as he drys (reaching about 40 tonnes within several hours). Endurance: When wet Namor has the advantage but on land, the Thing would have the advantage, as Namor's endurance will dimish with time (as per strength). Durability: Both are very tough, able to withstand blows from super strong opponents but again I think that the Thing has superior protection. Agility and Reaction Time: Namor definately has the advantage, being siginificantly faster than the Thing. Fighting Ability: Both are combat veterans of many hand to hand encounters and I would say they are evenly matched. Others: Namor can fly. If the battle takes place on land, due to the durability of the air and their endurance, I could see the fight extending over a few hours before a victor emerges. It would be quite a close fight on land and if the Thing prevents Namor getting wet to recharge, the Thing might just win. If Namor can recharge, with his speed and flight, he could then win (so location and availability of water plays a big part). If near or in the sea, Namor wins without question."Excellent post Creator. I am inclined to agree with you."
Thanks.
I could agree with you creator except I think Namor may be slightly more skilled than Thing in combat simply for the fact that he is extremely long lived and the king of an extremely dangerous and long lived kingdom. Not only would he be trained by some of the world's greatest warriors but to rule he would have to surpass them. Also he lives in the most hostile environment on earth and is accomplished enough to beat back mythical monsters of the deep and hordes of barbarian usurpers. In combat strength and speed are important but to be at Namor's level I would say he would have to have premium combat capability to be the terror that Namor is (or should be).
Sling Shot says:
"I could agree with you creator except I think Namor may be slightly more skilled than Thing in combat simply for the fact that he is extremely long lived and the king of an extremely dangerous and long lived kingdom. Not only would he be trained by some of the world's greatest warriors but to rule he would have to surpass them. Also he lives in the most hostile environment on earth and is accomplished enough to beat back mythical monsters of the deep and hordes of barbarian usurpers. In combat strength and speed are important but to be at Namor's level I would say he would have to have premium combat capability to be the terror that Namor is (or should be)."
To be king does not always mean that you exceed your teachers.
Yes Namor has been around a long time but also don't forget that being a king means performing a lot of state duties, negotaiting treaties etc. He's not fighting barbarians all the time.
I don't think that he's training as a martial artist, more as a classic fighter - swords, hand weapons and general hand to hand. Also much of his training would have been directed to fighting underwater - not focussed on land where a fight behaves differently.
This is why I chose to say that they would be even as the fight would be most likely to occur on land - since the Thing cannot breath underwater but Namor can breath on land.
Sling Shot says:
"What do you think that look looks like...like :)"
Like he wouldn't be wearing those green tidy whities, he'd be wearing long black pants made from a sea dragon's skin. His hair would be longer, his eyes would be either a real icy blue or a Storm white, and he'd have on a ring made of some animal's bone.
Eternal Chaos says:
"Cool. But than again, almost everybody's owned the Thing."
I know, he's never really come across as a tough guy, maybe back in the day but now he's just a punchline, after he went to France in Civil War there ain't no redemption from that in my book.
Gambler says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Cool. But than again, almost everybody's owned the Thing."I know, he's never really come across as a tough guy, maybe back in the day but now he's just a punchline, after he went to France in Civil War there ain't no redemption from that in my book."
Lol. I've never really thought of him as anything other than a big rock or a reject from LOTR. They could've done a better job with him.
Eternal Chaos says:
"Gambler says:"Eternal Chaos says:"Cool. But than again, almost everybody's owned the Thing."I know, he's never really come across as a tough guy, maybe back in the day but now he's just a punchline, after he went to France in Civil War there ain't no redemption from that in my book."Lol. I've never really thought of him as anything other than a big rock or a reject from LOTR. They could've done a better job with him."
LMAO, I'm serious he's supposed to be a big guy from New York City right? Have you ever been to New York City, even the pigeons can kick your ass, no joke, I saw a cat jump up and and snatch one and the next thing I know the cat is dead and the pigeon looks at me and says, WTF are you staring at.
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Gambler says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Gambler says:LMAO, I'm serious he's supposed to be a big guy from New York City right? Have you ever been to New York City, even the pigeons can kick your ass, no joke, I saw a cat jump up and and snatch one and the next thing I know the cat is dead and the pigeon looks at me and says, WTF are you staring at."Eternal Chaos says:Lol. I've never really thought of him as anything other than a big rock or a reject from LOTR. They could've done a better job with him.""Cool. But than again, almost everybody's owned the Thing."I know, he's never really come across as a tough guy, maybe back in the day but now he's just a punchline, after he went to France in Civil War there ain't no redemption from that in my book."
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LMMFAO!!!!!! I've seen that before. He's from Brooklyn, I'm in the LES in Manhatten. NYC can be summed up in 3 words Scary Ass Place
namor has always had the upperhand in their fights overall. namor has also one-shotted thing's strongest incarnation(pinapple thing, ON LAND. there's not much else to say.
namor on land, in water, in the air, everywhere
namor has always had the upperhand in their fights overall. namor has also one-shotted thing's strongest incarnation(pinapple thing, ON LAND. ... [more]
What were the conditions when Namor one shotted the Thing ?
Was Namor still wet ?
If he can one shot him so easily, why has he failed to do this in the extremely frequent fights ?
One occasion does not give the best picture of the combatants abilities or how a fight between the 2 would progress.
I am sure Namor is stronger than 85. According to Marvel database, he can lift many thousand tonnes without effort. He knocked out savage hulk before, thing doesn't have a prayer.
@Morpheus_: Did Namor lose to Ben in UXM 12 -_- ? My shop was out today when I got in there.
Can someone explain how Thing won?
From what I saw the order of events was:
Namor punched Thing through the Helicarrier. Thing punched Namor into the ocean. Namor threw Thing into a thermal vent. Namor smacked Thing with a giant fish. ???(What happens here?)???, Namor ends up on the ground, Thing pins him there with fish teeth.
Was my copy missing pages?
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