Master chief vs captain America

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Been done, MC wins.

I didn't know it has been done already I was just bored and wanted to see who would win

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Pretty much.

CAP

@Quntumking said:

CAP

Winning against Master Chief with the MJOLNIR armor?

@ShootingNova: With Mjolnir armor i'll give it to the Major, without i'll say Cap. The post does not say that the Armor is a definate.

@Quntumking said:

@ShootingNova: With Mjolnir armor i'll give it to the Major, without i'll say Cap. The post does not say that the Armor is a definate.

Which is why I said that with MJOLNIR armor, MC wins, without, CA wins.

@Quntumking said:

@ShootingNova: With Mjolnir armor i'll give it to the Major, without i'll say Cap. The post does not say that the Armor is a definate.

Battle forum rules state if no information is given then all combatants use their standard gear, so Master Chief has his armor, and that being said Master Chief wins, fairly easily.

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

But I agree with this.

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Actually Mc should win with or without armor, if Captain gets his shield, Mc should also get a weapon, so Mc wins in every scenario.

@hermankeson said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Actually Mc should win with or without armor, if Captain gets his shield, Mc should also get a weapon, so Mc wins in every scenario.

Well, Standard Gear, MC wins.

@ShootingNova said:

@hermankeson said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Actually Mc should win with or without armor, if Captain gets his shield, Mc should also get a weapon, so Mc wins in every scenario.

Well, Standard Gear, MC wins.

Yep, kinda hard to get around the Mjolnir armor's durability and other enhancements.

@tg1982 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@hermankeson said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Actually Mc should win with or without armor, if Captain gets his shield, Mc should also get a weapon, so Mc wins in every scenario.

Well, Standard Gear, MC wins.

Yep, kinda hard to get around the Mjolnir armor's durability and other enhancements.

Yup. But if you include literally everything, then there's quite a few things that can plough through it.

@ShootingNovasaid:

@tg1982 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@hermankeson said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Actually Mc should win with or without armor, if Captain gets his shield, Mc should also get a weapon, so Mc wins in every scenario.

Well, Standard Gear, MC wins.

Yep, kinda hard to get around the Mjolnir armor's durability and other enhancements.

Yup. But if you include literally everything, then there's quite a few things that can plough through it.

I can't think of anything that Cap has that is standard that could plough through the Molnir armor, is there anything?

@tg1982 said:

@ShootingNovasaid:

@tg1982 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@hermankeson said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Actually Mc should win with or without armor, if Captain gets his shield, Mc should also get a weapon, so Mc wins in every scenario.

Well, Standard Gear, MC wins.

Yep, kinda hard to get around the Mjolnir armor's durability and other enhancements.

Yup. But if you include literally everything, then there's quite a few things that can plough through it.

I can't think of anything that Cap has that is standard that could plough through the Molnir armor, is there anything?

No, I meant everything from everywhere from every novel, comic, movie, film series, show, manga and so on. Captain America's standard equipment doesn't match up.

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

Without MJOLNIR? With, he wins.

MC wins whatever happens

@clemj said:

MC wins whatever happens

Without MJOLNIR, nope.

I like Cap, but no way can he beat this!

MC takes this

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

@Trinity00 said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

He still has his shield.

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

Actually, with the right equipment, he could. SPARTANs were trained in a degree of hand to hand combat, and the augmentation process lets him have physical stats 300% of peak human. With the right equipment, I could see him taking down Cap while unarmored.

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

He still has his shield.

And that said gun is capable of turning tungsten into ionized gases, so yah his shield won't be that useful if MC shoots him in the legs.

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

He still has his shield.

And that said gun is capable of turning tungsten into ionized gases, so yah his shield won't be that useful if MC shoots him in the legs.

He can throw it down. Captain America can still throw his shield, use his gun and fighting skills. Though with those physical bolsters, MC takes it more likely than not.

@Smart_Dork_Dude said:

I like Cap, but no way can he beat this!

This is how I feel leaving work on Friday!

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

He still has his shield.

And that said gun is capable of turning tungsten into ionized gases, so yah his shield won't be that useful if MC shoots him in the legs.

He can throw it down. Captain America can still throw his shield, use his gun and fighting skills. Though with those physical bolsters, MC takes it more likely than not.

Range plasma projectile>>>>>>>Metal shield

Master Chief has the reflexes to grab the shield and than tag the foolish cap with a plasma bolt since he threw is only hope of victory away.

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

He still has his shield.

And that said gun is capable of turning tungsten into ionized gases, so yah his shield won't be that useful if MC shoots him in the legs.

He can throw it down. Captain America can still throw his shield, use his gun and fighting skills. Though with those physical bolsters, MC takes it more likely than not.

Range plasma projectile>>>>>>>Metal shield

Master Chief has the reflexes to grab the shield and than tag the foolish cap with a plasma bolt since he threw is only hope of victory away.

Firstly, you are underrating Cap and his shield.

Next, the shield is weaved with vibranium, which makes it indestructible. Captain America has enhanced physical attributes due to the Super Soldier Serum as well.

How could cap hurt MC?

MC can easily FLIP (not jump lift, but casually flip) the scorpion tank, which weighs 66 tons. He could literally rip Captain America in half.

Yes the vibranium shield would still be unable to be destroyed but that isn't really relevant, considering MC is better in every way except for that shield.

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

He still has his shield.

And that said gun is capable of turning tungsten into ionized gases, so yah his shield won't be that useful if MC shoots him in the legs.

He can throw it down. Captain America can still throw his shield, use his gun and fighting skills. Though with those physical bolsters, MC takes it more likely than not.

Range plasma projectile>>>>>>>Metal shield

Master Chief has the reflexes to grab the shield and than tag the foolish cap with a plasma bolt since he threw is only hope of victory away.

Firstly, you are underrating Cap and his shield.

Next, the shield is weaved with vibranium, which makes it indestructible. Captain America has enhanced physical attributes due to the Super Soldier Serum as well.

Cap's shield can't produce 10 mega joules of damage when thrown can it?

Yes that's why I said he catches it, Yah and? Master Chief was trained from the age 6 and had augmentations that made his bones indestructible and enough strength to dent titanium with his bare fists, even at the age 14 he was so fast 4 veteran soldiers got demolished by him instantly because they seemed slow as snails to him.

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

He still has his shield.

And that said gun is capable of turning tungsten into ionized gases, so yah his shield won't be that useful if MC shoots him in the legs.

He can throw it down. Captain America can still throw his shield, use his gun and fighting skills. Though with those physical bolsters, MC takes it more likely than not.

Range plasma projectile>>>>>>>Metal shield

Master Chief has the reflexes to grab the shield and than tag the foolish cap with a plasma bolt since he threw is only hope of victory away.

Firstly, you are underrating Cap and his shield.

Next, the shield is weaved with vibranium, which makes it indestructible. Captain America has enhanced physical attributes due to the Super Soldier Serum as well.

Cap's shield can't produce 10 mega joules of damage when thrown can it?

Yes that's why I said he catches it, Yah and? Master Chief was trained from the age 6 and had augmentations that made his bones indestructible and enough strength to dent titanium with his bare fists, even at the age 14 he was so fast 4 veteran soldiers got demolished by him instantly because they seemed slow as snails to him.

I'm saying that it is indestructible. When did I say it was a superior weapon?

Honestly, you missed the whole point of my post. Read back again. I'm going to bed now, good day to you.

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00 said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

He still has his shield.

And that said gun is capable of turning tungsten into ionized gases, so yah his shield won't be that useful if MC shoots him in the legs.

He can throw it down. Captain America can still throw his shield, use his gun and fighting skills. Though with those physical bolsters, MC takes it more likely than not.

Range plasma projectile>>>>>>>Metal shield

Master Chief has the reflexes to grab the shield and than tag the foolish cap with a plasma bolt since he threw is only hope of victory away.

Firstly, you are underrating Cap and his shield.

Next, the shield is weaved with vibranium, which makes it indestructible. Captain America has enhanced physical attributes due to the Super Soldier Serum as well.

Cap's shield can't produce 10 mega joules of damage when thrown can it?

Yes that's why I said he catches it, Yah and? Master Chief was trained from the age 6 and had augmentations that made his bones indestructible and enough strength to dent titanium with his bare fists, even at the age 14 he was so fast 4 veteran soldiers got demolished by him instantly because they seemed slow as snails to him.

I'm saying that it is indestructible. When did I say it was a superior weapon?

Honestly, you missed the whole point of my post. Read back again. I'm going to bed now, good day to you.

Chief has indestructible bones and energy shields + titanium armor, yah I really don't see the advantage a indestructible shield would be if your opponent out classes you in every way including equipment.

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@Trinity00: Read my previous posts again.

@ShootingNova said:

@Trinity00: Read my previous posts again.

I did all you said is indestructible shield and super soldier serum.

@ShootingNova said:

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

@SirMethos said:

MC wins with the Mjolnir armor, with no armor, Cap wins.

Without the armor MC can still win if he gets the right weapons and equipment.

No he can't. The MJOLNIR armour amps him and other Spartans significantly and he lacks the hand-to-hand skills to take him down.

Without MJOLNIR? With, he wins.

Yes, without the armour, the only advantage John has over Cap is faster reflexes.

@Trinity00 said:

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

A plasma pistol isn't his standard gear.

@ImmortalOne said:

Actually, with the right equipment, he could. SPARTANs were trained in a degree of hand to hand combat, and the augmentation process lets him have physical stats 300% of peak human. With the right equipment, I could see him taking down Cap while unarmored.

No... Their stats aren't 300% of peak human. That is a massively overrated statement. Spartans were trained very well yes, but not Cap's extent and they've never faced opponents he has.

Without the armour their stats are:

"Your Spartans can run at bursts of up to fifty-five KPH," he explained. 'Kelly can run a little faster, I think. They will only get quicker when they adjust to the "alterations" we've made to their bodies. They can lift three times their body weight- which, I might add, is almost double the norm due to their increased muscle density. And they can virtually see in the dark."

-Taken from Halo: The Fall of Reach

"They should not be performing so well. There must be unexplained synergistic effects brought on by the combined modifications. What are their reaction times?" "Almost impossible to chart. We estimate it at twenty milliseconds," Mendez replied. He shook his head, then added, " I believe it's significantly faster in combat situations, when their adrenaline is pumping."

"Any physiological or mental instabilities?"

"None. They work like no team I've ever seen before. Damn near telepathic, if you ask me. They were dropped in these caves yesterday, and I don't know where they got black suits or the rope for that maneuver, but I can guarantee they haven't left this room. They improvise and improve and adapt.

-Taken from Halo: The Fall of Reach

That's the extent of his capabilities outside the armour.

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

A single plasma pistol will p0wnt captain america.

A plasma pistol isn't his standard gear.

@ImmortalOne said:

Actually, with the right equipment, he could. SPARTANs were trained in a degree of hand to hand combat, and the augmentation process lets him have physical stats 300% of peak human. With the right equipment, I could see him taking down Cap while unarmored.

No... Their stats aren't 300% of peak human. That is a massively overrated statement. Spartans were trained very well yes, but not Cap's extent and they've never faced opponents he has.

Without the armour their stats are:

"Your Spartans can run at bursts of up to fifty-five KPH," he explained. 'Kelly can run a little faster, I think. They will only get quicker when they adjust to the "alterations" we've made to their bodies. They can lift three times their body weight- which, I might add, is almost double the norm due to their increased muscle density. And they can virtually see in the dark."

-Taken from Halo: The Fall of Reach

"They should not be performing so well. There must be unexplained synergistic effects brought on by the combined modifications. What are their reaction times?" "Almost impossible to chart. We estimate it at twenty milliseconds," Mendez replied. He shook his head, then added, " I believe it's significantly faster in combat situations, when their adrenaline is pumping."

"Any physiological or mental instabilities?"

"None. They work like no team I've ever seen before. Damn near telepathic, if you ask me. They were dropped in these caves yesterday, and I don't know where they got black suits or the rope for that maneuver, but I can guarantee they haven't left this room. They improvise and improve and adapt.

-Taken from Halo: The Fall of Reach

That's the extent of his capabilities outside the armour.

And his suit is, :|

I was saying with the right equipment MC can beat him, and since the suit is standard equipment your point of Captain America beating him is null.

That armor was the old model the armor chief has currently is better than the other one

You forgot to mention that was when they were teenagers, as adults their strength and speed increased significantly.

@Nox_Arc said:

@ImmortalOne said:

Actually, with the right equipment, he could. SPARTANs were trained in a degree of hand to hand combat, and the augmentation process lets him have physical stats 300% of peak human. With the right equipment, I could see him taking down Cap while unarmored.

No... Their stats aren't 300% of peak human. That is a massively overrated statement. Spartans were trained very well yes, but not Cap's extent and they've never faced opponents he has.

Without the armour their stats are:

"Your Spartans can run at bursts of up to fifty-five KPH," he explained. 'Kelly can run a little faster, I think. They will only get quicker when they adjust to the "alterations" we've made to their bodies. They can lift three times their body weight- which, I might add, is almost double the norm due to their increased muscle density. And they can virtually see in the dark."

-Taken from Halo: The Fall of Reach

"They should not be performing so well. There must be unexplained synergistic effects brought on by the combined modifications. What are their reaction times?" "Almost impossible to chart. We estimate it at twenty milliseconds," Mendez replied. He shook his head, then added, " I believe it's significantly faster in combat situations, when their adrenaline is pumping."

"Any physiological or mental instabilities?"

"None. They work like no team I've ever seen before. Damn near telepathic, if you ask me. They were dropped in these caves yesterday, and I don't know where they got black suits or the rope for that maneuver, but I can guarantee they haven't left this room. They improvise and improve and adapt.

-Taken from Halo: The Fall of Reach

That's the extent of his capabilities outside the armour.

What about better durability (unbreakable bones)? I'm guessing Master Chief could tank most of Cap's hits. With the right equipment, he could beat Cap without armor.

@Trinity00 said:

And his suit is, :|

I was saying with the right equipment MC can beat him, and since the suit is standard equipment your point of Captain America beating him is null.

Never argued that John would lose to Cap with the armour. I was defending against the statement where you said John takes it without his armour.

That armor was the old model the armor chief has currently is better than the other one

The only improvement the Mark V armour brings is a more powerful shielding system.

You forgot to mention that was when they were teenagers, as adults their strength and speed increased significantly.

Mendez mentioned that only their speed would increase. Nothing more and there is no proof to say otherwise.

@ImmortalOne said:

What about better durability (unbreakable bones)? I'm guessing Master Chief could tank most of Cap's hits. With the right equipment, he could beat Cap without armor.

Nigh-unbreakable bones. Your point is irrelevant considering that Cap has still injured and held his own against Wolverine who has the benefit of a healing factor and is FAR more experienced, skilled and enhanced than John.

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

And his suit is, :|

I was saying with the right equipment MC can beat him, and since the suit is standard equipment your point of Captain America beating him is null.

Never argued that John would lose to Cap with the armour. I was defending against the statement where you said John takes it without his armour.

That armor was the old model the armor chief has currently is better than the other one

The only improvement the Mark V armour brings is a more powerful shielding system.

You forgot to mention that was when they were teenagers, as adults their strength and speed increased significantly.

Mendez mentioned that only their speed would increase. Nothing more and there is no proof to say otherwise.

And I was saying that with out armor MC can still win with the right equipment

Halo wiki says something else

Nope because in the previous pages Hasley the founder of the spartan project said that they were going to be faster and stronger and that was after Mendez said that the spartans were becoming faster and stronger than they thought.

Doctor Hasley's word>>>>>>>>Mendez word

Chief wins with his armor....w/o it, Cap would beat John....Chief lacks the h2h feats outside of his armor

@SHAZAM117 said:

Chief wins with his armor....w/o it, Cap would beat John....Chief lacks the h2h feats outside of his armor

Chief still has a gun yah know?

@Trinity00 said:

And I was saying that with out armor MC can still win with the right equipment

And I'm saying he can't and won't because he lacks both the skill, physical stats and experience to do so.

Halo wiki says something else

A wiki can be edited to say anything. I draw my proof from that actual novels.

Nope because in the previous pages Hasley the founder of the spartan project said that they were going to be faster and stronger and that was after Mendez said that the spartans were becoming faster and stronger than they thought.

No she didn't. She had no ideas of the truest capabilities that the augmentation process would bring, only scientific guesses.

Doctor Hasley's word>>>>>>>>Mendez word

And that's why she was absolutely baffled when she first saw the Spartans in action after their first training exercise proceeding the augmentation?

@Nox_Arc said:

@Trinity00 said:

And I was saying that with out armor MC can still win with the right equipment

And I'm saying he can't and won't because he lacks both the skill, physical stats and experience to do so.

Halo wiki says something else

A wiki can be edited to say anything. I draw my proof from that actual novels.

Nope because in the previous pages Hasley the founder of the spartan project said that they were going to be faster and stronger and that was after Mendez said that the spartans were becoming faster and stronger than they thought.

No she didn't. She had no ideas of the truest capabilities that the augmentation process would bring, only scientific guesses.

Doctor Hasley's word>>>>>>>>Mendez word

And that's why she was absolutely baffled when she first saw the Spartans in action after their first training exercise proceeding the augmentation?

If punisher can do it so can chief.

The wiki gets sources FROM the novels, it's not fanfiction :/

she was baffled because

1. She never trained them and didn't know of their capabilities

2. They were stronger and faster than she thought

3.She didn't see them in many years.