Martian Manhunter vs. OF Thor

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Poll Martian Manhunter vs. OF Thor (163 votes)

Martian Manhunter 33%
OF Thor 64%

This sparked some debate over on a Justice League v. Avengers thread, so I decided to bring it out as it's own question.

Rules

  • No BFR
  • Pre-52 MMH
  • Win by any means (other than BFR)
  • Fight takes place in New York City

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@eyedcyou said:

@jmarshmallow said:

Regardless of the version of Thor, MMH's TP is enough to handle him.

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That's basically how I felt.

No his TP is not enough that is stupid in every way shape and form. OF thor with time manipulation is to much for him plus everything else.

I disagree. Even with Time Manipulation (which I don't recall him using, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt), MMH can still go intangible.

And there's really nothing Thor can do to an intangible being with the capabilities of wiping his brain.

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This should be locked because Odinforce Thor is much greater than any herald level beings and Martian Manhunter is barely herald level.

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This should be locked because Odinforce Thor is much greater than any herald level beings and Martian Manhunter is barely herald level.

What the hell are you talking about herald level? Superman on his own has better feats than the jabronis that you call "herald level". MM can easily one shot Thor with his TP into a drooling mess.

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Thor stomps.

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Mind Rape?

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@jmarshmallow:

@doctor_fate500 said:

@eyedcyou said:

@jmarshmallow said:

Regardless of the version of Thor, MMH's TP is enough to handle him.

Jmarshmallow

That's basically how I felt.

No his TP is not enough that is stupid in every way shape and form. OF thor with time manipulation is to much for him plus everything else.

I disagree. Even with Time Manipulation (which I don't recall him using, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt), MMH can still go intangible.

And there's really nothing Thor can do to an intangible being with the capabilities of wiping his brain.

Jmarshmallow

umm his lighting can effect him being intangible so yeah thanks for playing try again later

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@doctor_fate500: Show his lightning hurt an intangible being please.

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Mmh mind Гap3s

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@doctor_fate500: Show his lightning hurt an intangible being please.

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Can i show you any lighting effecting the intangible MMH?

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@doctor_fate500: No, not MMH specifically.

But you said his lightning can hurt an intangible being, and I'm asking you to prove it.

Scans, please.

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Do you want some more cause i mean this shows that that vision is intangible and that lighting is hurting him.

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mmh could speed blitz but i doubt he could dish our more than a nuclear warhead before thor could react because OF thor tanked two nukes like nothing so he could probably just stop time and wallop mmh till death.

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The Odin force doesn't change the fact that Thor has no answer for J'onns telepathy. Honestly, his telepathy resistance is so inconsistent I don't even think we should acknowledge it exists.

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Odin Force Thor got this but ill i will say this he will have trouble with Martian Manhunter and his telepathy....

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tp + Martian = Thor godblasts himself

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Thor stomps.

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#119  Edited By Supermanthor

Lmao ... Thor one shots

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Still MMH one shots.

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Average White Martian would one shot Thor

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#122  Edited By King-Ragnar

Thor one shots. J'onns telepathy is virtually inept against the Odin Force.

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@king-ragnar: Tell to one who inhibited Mxyz powers, broke through mageddon tp, one shoted JL several times or summoned all minds of Earth to beat D'kay mentally. Or simply mind haxed Vishnu who could like Beyonder wipe entire creation out of existence

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Thor.

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LMAO regular Thor would give Jonn a challenge Odin force lol is just overkill The trolls are out I see this is obviously Thor's win and not too hard Either

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LMAO regular Thor would give Jonn a challenge Odin force lol is just overkill The trolls are out I see this is obviously Thor's win and not too hard Either

Yep trolls will keep mentioning his feats against conceptual platonic beings like Spectre, Vishnu, Dream amp dr destiny, Mageddon and his ultra powerful versatility with mental powers or soul manipulation powers

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#127  Edited By destinyman75

@sexybayonetta22: This is pre 52 non amped Jonn seems you forgot..TP or Soul manipulation isn't working on OF lol that's funny.. Phoenix force TP and mind gem TP already tried. At the very least slows that theory down..OF >>>Jonn

Norrin Radd is seen as>>>Jonn and Normal Thor can beat him add the OF yeah....back to school there is a salt shaker in the cafeteria

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@sexybayonetta22: Do you actually know any of the context of all those incidents or are you going off of Reddit respect threads? Or simply flat out ignoring the context?

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@sexybayonetta22: This is pre 52 non amped Jonn seems you forgot..TP or Soul manipulation isn't working on OF lol that's funny.. Phoenix force TP and mind gem TP already tried. At the very least slows that theory down..OF >>>Jonn

Norrin Radd is seen as>>>Jonn and Normal Thor can beat him add the OF yeah....back to school there is a salt shaker in the cafeteria

Lool do u know how overally mind works ? it is not simple ABC logic like 98% thinks that way. MMH is extremely versatile.

Don't even compare Norrin to J'onn he isn't even team buster in power tier. J'onn without amps did this and consistenlty was doing this. Beings from God Sphere are conceptual beings, 11d beings like Enternity, full power Chaos King, rest of 4 entities, Beyonder, Protege, In betweener, Living Tribunal. Sorry but mind gem is said to control anyone in unvierse but MMH can mind hax on different ways. Mind is not simple as u think like in real world. He would trick him with illusions or force him to do stupid thinks. MMH tp is very broken.

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@sexybayonetta22: Do you actually know any of the context of all those incidents or are you going off of Reddit respect threads? Or simply flat out ignoring the context?

I know circumstances but Mind isn't sth simple as u think. ok going sleep now

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@sexybayonetta22:

I know circumstances

You evidently don't considering that the most common showing you use in other threads to argue that J'onn is a Multivereal Telepath is "TPing Mxy", yet you seemingly either don't know the context (Which is hilarious considering the context is explained in the very comic itself) or you're choosing to ignore it.

but Mind isn't sth simple as u think

How does that have to do with anything? Every single showing you use to argue that J'onn is a Multiversal/Universal telepath is heavily contextual. Besides TPing the JL, which virtually any planetary telepath is capable of doing.

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@king-ragnar: mind isn't simple thing. ignorants on comicvine never will understand. people say it is inconsistent beciuse simple minded morons will never get tjat this is nothing simple

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OF Thor

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Thor stomps

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OF thor wrecks

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Lmao....

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Thor stomps hard , MMH fanboy wannabes can't accept that.

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If it wasn't for telepathy, OF Thor would deffo win.

I don't know much about MMH, are those telepathy feats legit? If so, I can't see OF Thor resisting telepathy.

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#140  Edited By brucerogers

MMH gets his ass handed to him way too often for a guy who is supposedly as powerful as some people here think. Hell, normal Thor could beat him.

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@brucerogers: I've noticed that too. There is no doubt that he has some really insane abilities and some really nice feats, but i honestly think he might be a jobber.

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@captainmarvel11: He kinda is lol. He jobs way too much for someone who possesses so many powers and S tier stats.

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Martian Manhunter.

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#144  Edited By Supermanthor

@brucerogers: @captainmarvel11: He is like DC's silver surfer both are too powerful to be a team player Most writers Don't what to do with them

But they truely shine as solo

That being said OF Thor wins this one different league altogether

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@king-ragnar: Believe me in real life brain has many functions. one responds for your conciousness or brainstem keeps your life functions or other parts of brain ( or other co operating parts with it ) responds for your awereness of reality or will power etc. etc. Seriously people say MMH is inconsistent via feats of beating 11d beings ( platonic guys/dwellers of god sphere powered by the Source ) but mind is just like infinite computer which u must discover, master it etc. etc. Life is not that simple. MMH just will use his haxes to trick/one shot thor extremely quickly.

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#147 takenstew22  Moderator

How consistent is MMH's TP?

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Jesus.....

I am not him, but i am enlightening u just like him

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Thor stomps.

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@sexybayonetta22: If by "enlightening" you mean spreading out of context showings and then trying to explain your argument by saying "the mind isn't simple", then yeah sure I am enlightened.