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Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar)

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous.

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars)

Even Piell vs Darth Bane

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan

Yoda vs Darth Krayt.

Rules: winner by death or K.O. No morals.

Place:

Asgard.

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Sith all the way

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  1. Vader with medium difficulty.
  2. I think it could go either way.
  3. Tyranus with medium difficulty.
  4. Probably Exar Kun.
  5. Could go either way.
  6. Ulic Quel-Droma.
  7. Obi-Wan with hard difficulty.
  8. Sith lol.
  9. Maul with easy difficulty.
  10. Bane.
  11. Sion.
  12. Sith.
  13. Now that could be interesting battle.
  14. Hm dont know. Maybe either way.
  15. Yoda with easy difficulty.
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They're probably roughly equal in power and skill but the Sith are obviously far more ruthless, willing to use the Force and whatnot in nastier ways, and they seem to have more versatile Force abilities. I'd go with the Sith generally, but the Jedi can definitely win some of these fights.

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I'm only commenting on the ones I know.

Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar) - Pretty easily, he's just better.

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus - Again, Dooku is just better in every important area.

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Fisto. His telekinetic displays are not too shabby themselves and he outstrips Kun as duelist.

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader - Windu has the edge in skill, and his Shatterpoint would work wonders on Vaders cybernetics.

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus - Obi Wan is more skilled, can hold Malgus' lightning in his lightsaber, and can win a tough duel through superior skill compensating for his disadvantage in telekinetic power.

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous. - Sith should be too physically powerful to cope with, have much better Force power and have the edge in skill.

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars) - Maul WTFstomps her considering Savage killed her, and Maul has schooled Savage with ease before.

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress - Haven't heard a single impressive thing about Tyvokka other than about his precog, Savage should mop up.

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan - Could go either way. Comparable dueling feats, with Satele probably having an edge, but Revan was a bit more versatile, and comparably powerful, in the Force.

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Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar): Pre mustafar? Anakin takes this.

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak: A guy who bested Bastilla Shan and gave Revan some nice fight, vs Shaak Ti? Sith takes this, cant say easy as Malak doesnt have enough feats to be sure.

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus: Tyranus is basically better at everything. Except fighter piloting. Sith takes this.

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun: Exar Kun. No discussion IMO

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader: Which Darth Vader? Mace should win, unless we consider Vader is in his prime moment, then, Mace 6/10. Vader was a beast as a force user and a very proficient saber user. But he is but a shadow of what he could have been if not crippled. Mace is a better duelist and has fought very strong force users allready with nice results. I think even the strongest version of Vader would be overwhelmed in close combat by Mace, and that Vaders strong force powers wont be enough to stop such a veteran as Mace Windu. I allways found Vader, even in EU version, a bit hyped. Ye he is damn strong. But had also a lot of weaknesses due to being half robot and half crippled.

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma: No idea tbh.

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus: Malgus. Obi Wan normally relied on his experience and his brain to win fights against better duelists or force users. But Malgus has also a lot of experience and was considered amongst the strongest in a time with force users like Nyriss, Vitiate, Shatele or Revan. I would say Malgus is a better duelist seeing how he beated Shatele, her master and Ven Zallow in a duel.

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous: Sith curbstomp. Pum

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars): I tended to underestimate Maul. But after seeing and reading this last weeks about him, Maul wins this easy. He is a beast. Maul has enough feats to curbstomp an average jedi like Adi.

Even Piell vs Darth Bane: Bane. All day. Even Piell pudding.

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion: I would go with Rancisis. Sion is a brute, brutal at close combat and almost inmune to pain, but he is a melee specialist. Rancisis used unconventional force powers, once of them being able to nulify the enemies equilibrium and balance. This would proove specially effective against someone like Sion who relies too much on his combat proficiency. Besides, Rancisis is also a very skilled duelist, and i would say his force powers are quite stronger than Sions. Rancisis takes this.

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus: This isnt even fair. Traya and Nihilus really? Traya had fun killing half of the jedi council alone and at the same time, and raised some of the strongest siths/jedis in history both as Kreya and Traya. Nihilus needed to be weakened by "poisoning" a planets energy to be defeated. And this was done to let Meetra Surik, a very skilled jedi, along with other strong allies, fight him. The jedis you said are a bit average. Traya and Nihilus are top 10. Both would solostomp those 3.

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress: Savage Opress relies a lot on his stamina and strength. Tyvokka is a wookie jedi master. His strength is OBVIOUSLY higher than a zabrak. SO Savage Opress' maina dvantage isnt that big here. Agaisnt maul, Tyvoka would loose as Maul is more proficient on many other things, but Savage is too focused on combat IMO. Jedi takes this one.

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan: Revan. Satele couldnt defeat Malgus. Malgus was at Nyriss' level as she was part of the dark council. Revan killed Nyriss with one move. Satele didnt have her fathers dueling capabilities neither her force powers. Revan should win this with ease.

Yoda vs Darth Krayt: Uuuuh tough one! Yoda after a decent fight.

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#7  Edited By mjolnirson

Obi solos jaja ok no jajaja

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#8  Edited By Faymousinus

Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Vader - Vader supersedes Ki in pretty much everything.

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak - Malak is pretty much featless(if were using novel Malak) and dont know much about Ti, so no idea

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus - Tyranus is better in every aspect.

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Kun's force abilites would be too much for Fisto

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader - Vader should take this 6/10

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma - Tiin is the better fighter, which I think should be enough to give him the win.

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus - Ken

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous - With ease if I must.

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul - Maul outclasses her in every aspect.

Even Piell vs Darth Bane - Would say Bane, but I know too little about Piell

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion - Oppo Rancisis, isnt that the weird hairly looking guy? Well, Sion should take it since hes pretty much immortal, unless someone convinces him to yeah, you know the rest.

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus - No idea

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress - No idea

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan - Satele should take this.

Yoda vs Darth Krayt.- Yoda, with ease.

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@linark said:

Traya and Nihilus are top 10. Both would solostomp those 3.

Sorry, just had to correct you, but Traya and Nihilus are not close to the top 10

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@i_like_swords said:

I'm only commenting on the ones I know.

  • Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar) - Pretty easily, he's just better.
  • Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus - Again, Dooku is just better in every important area.
  • Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Fisto. His telekinetic displays are not too shabby themselves and he outstrips Kun as duelist.
  • Mace Windu vs Darth Vader - Windu has the edge in skill, and his Shatterpoint would work wonders on Vaders cybernetics.
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus - Obi Wan is more skilled, can hold Malgus' lightning in his lightsaber, and can win a tough duel through superior skill compensating for his disadvantage in telekinetic power.
  • Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous. - Sith should be too physically powerful to cope with, have much better Force power and have the edge in skill.
  • Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars) - Maul WTFstomps her considering Savage killed her, and Maul has schooled Savage with ease before.
  • Tyvokka vs Savage Opress - Haven't heard a single impressive thing about Tyvokka other than about his precog, Savage should mop up.
  • Satele Shan vs Darth Revan - Could go either way. Comparable dueling feats, with Satele probably having an edge, but Revan was a bit more versatile, and comparably powerful, in the Force.

One change since last time:

  • Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus - I'm prepared to give this to Malgus. Obi-Wan is undoubtedly the better duelist, but there are two problems I see for him in this fight.
    1. Soresu. He would be able to indefinitely stave off Malgus' aggressive assault, but the problem is he'd be waiting for a mistake to be made that frankly isn't going to surface. Malgus is extremely focused and tactical. Despite immense levels of bloodlust he doesn't take his eye off the ball. Obi-Wan and Malgus would enter into a very prolonged duel, and seeing as neither one has stamina issues or any real advantage in form, a lightsaber duel between them could go either way depending on who becomes exhausted or unfocused first. Obi-Wan is more skilled but Malgus is a freight train that never stops coming. Obi-Wan could beat a more skilled fighter like Ventress or even Anakin who make mistakes from time to time, but Malgus is in a completely different mindset.
    2. Force Power. Frankly, Malgus destroys Obi-Wan here. TK, lightning, saber throwing.. whatever. Malgus has this advantage in the bag handsomely. Forget a prolonged lightsaber duel. Malgus will go for the money here and use his superior Force abilities to win. In a moment of respite, one good lightning blast or Force push could leave Obi-Wan reeling.
    Malgus wins because he has far too much sheer power and unrelenting focus on the task at hand. Obi-Wan will not be able to outsmart him or overpower him like he does to his other opponents.
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Tie...?

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Sith.

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Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar) - Vader is just a full tier or two ahead of Ki-Adi. He's superior in everything.

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak - More versatility and combat skill

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus - Too fast and too skilled, slightly more powerful

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Greater speed, rivaling or slightly superseding skill, and the Shii-Cho advantage

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader - Windu is only better in dueling skill by a scant margin, and better in agility. Vader is stronger, more durable, much more powerful, and quite possibly faster depending on how you interpret Ferus Olin's account of his speed.

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma - Saesee 10/10. Better in everything.

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus - Probably a tie.

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous - Sith team stomps through their power and vastly greater speed.

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars) - Maul SLAUGHTERHOUSE. There should be no need for an explanation.

Even Piell vs Darth Bane - Bane, just about every time. Greater power and speed, to my memory.

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion - Heh. Probably Sion through his immortality, but Oppo might be able to manipulate his will through Battle Meditation, and he still has Malacia.

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus - Sith team SLAUGHTERHOUSE. Either of them could solo with Drain, and Traya could wreck with her TK and TP powers.

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress - Greater strength and power.

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan - Faster, more skilled, more powerful.

Yoda vs Darth Krayt. - Yoda SLAUGHTERHOUSE. No need for explanation.

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Sorry, just had to correct you, but Traya and Nihilus are not close to the top 10

Traya is probably top ten for Sith and overall raw power if you count all Force users and no entities.

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#15  Edited By _RapTOR_

Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar) - Vader easily

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader - Close fight, but I feel that Windu is slightly above Vader in terms of skill and definitely is faster than him.

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus - Very close fight, I could see it going either way but Kenobi would probably win 6/10

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous - Every time

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars)

Even Piell vs Darth Bane

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan

Yoda vs Darth Krayt - Yoda owns Krayt

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Vader is always misconceived as slow. He is not. Mace Windu has no speed feats that outstrip Vader's - Mace has formed blurring webs, left behind blurring trails, struck half a dozen times in an eyeblink, fought imperceptibly fast, ran in blurs, etc. These are good, but not superior to Vader. Vader has deflected fire from turret emplacements, moved fast enough to have appeared to teleport, left behind blurring trails, drawn his lightsaber faster than thought, speedblitzed characters before Jedi with movement speed comparable to Obi-Wan could react, deflected torrential volumes of blaster fire, generated afterimages etc. Vader is not slower than Mace at all. As speed feats, these are all even only. Windu is not "definitely faster" than Vader by any stretch of the imagination, only more agile. In fact, based on Ferus Olin's account of Vader being faster than anybody he has ever seen except for Yoda, Vader is quite possibly faster than Mace Windu, since Ferus Olin has fought alongside Obi-Wan Kenobi multiple times, and Kenobi is Windu's utter rival in speed. Mace's running speed and agility may be superior to Vader's, but his reaction and combat speed is not.

Regarding skill, Mace Windu is only superior by a scant margin. He has fought evenly with Dooku, who is more skilled than Vader, has beaten Ventress, has dueled evenly with Grievous, fought evenly with Sora Bulq, sparred evenly with Saesee Tiin, etc. - all of his opponents have a wealth of feats or accolades to draw from, except Saesee, but he still has a few accolades to portend a high level of skill. On the other hand, Vader's opponents are mostly featless. Vader has beaten Roan Shyrne, beaten An'ya Kuro, beaten Kento Marek, fought evenly with Ben Kenobi, beaten multiple Jedi, etc, but all of these Jedi have no feats (Ben is not as skilled as Obi-Wan, as sources have revealed him to be slower, out of practice, and a "mere shadow of what he once was"). Vader's skill improved drastically after performing these feats, which allowed him to defeat TESB Luke and fight evenly with RotJ Luke. Windu is the second most skilled duelist in the Order by AotC, and is one of the most skilled duelists in the Old Republic, but Vader is one of the most skilled swordsmen in all of history. He is not far from Windu in this area at all.

Power, on the other hand, is clearly in Vader's favor. Windu has collapsed unstable cliff faces, hurled droids nearly three kilometers, levitated himself and Nick Rotsu down a couple hundred meter fall, and manipulated trees, boulders and AT-TE's. Vader, by contrast, has collapsed cathedrals, Crushed gargantuan droids, toppled gigantic trees, utilized Choke across a Star Destroyer, hurled platoons of soldiers, casually slapped behemoths with trees, crushed TIE fighters, incited avalanches, Crushed Jedi hearts, casually collapsed ceilings, destroyed rooms, etc. His Force Screams have cracked apartment walls, wrecked medical facilities, melted durasteel, and collapsed portions of ceiling. His power is very clearly superior by an appreciable margin.

Regarding overall versatility, this should also be in Vader's favor. Windu has shown levitational telekinetic powers, has utilized Immovability to adhere to a Maglev train rushing at 300km/h and still dueled agilely against Grievous, has displayed Mind Tricks, knows Shatterpoint, etc. but Vader has instilled fear in others, has utilized Drain Knowledge on Luke Skywalker, a more potent telepath than Windu, has used Alter Environment to create and control winds, has utilized Deflection against blaster bolts, has repelled lightsaber blows with Deflection, has repulsed torrential barrages of blaster fire with Barrier, and so on. Mace's Shatterpoint is extremely unlikely to afford him any advantage here, as it has only really served him against fodder characters.

Vader for a solid majority, 7-8/10.

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@shootingnova: Ha! I was right about the Vader winning over Mace thing

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@faymousinus: Np, i can correct you too: Yes, they are. But this fights lead nowhere. So lets pretend this didnt happen

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Sith all the way.

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#20  Edited By Linark

Vader is always misconceived as slow. He is not. Mace Windu has no speed feats that outstrip Vader's - Mace has formed blurring webs, left behind blurring trails, struck half a dozen times in an eyeblink, fought imperceptibly fast, ran in blurs, etc. These are good, but not superior to Vader. Vader has deflected fire from turret emplacements, moved fast enough to have appeared to teleport, left behind blurring trails, drawn his lightsaber faster than thought, speedblitzed characters before Jedi with movement speed comparable to Obi-Wan could react, deflected torrential volumes of blaster fire, generated afterimages etc. Vader is not slower than Mace at all. As speed feats, these are all even only. Windu is not "definitely faster" than Vader by any stretch of the imagination, only more agile. In fact, based on Ferus Olin's account of Vader being faster than anybody he has ever seen except for Yoda, Vader is quite possibly faster than Mace Windu, since Ferus Olin has fought alongside Obi-Wan Kenobi multiple times, and Kenobi is Windu's utter rival in speed. Mace's running speed and agility may be superior to Vader's, but his reaction and combat speed is not.

Regarding skill, Mace Windu is only superior by a scant margin. He has fought evenly with Dooku, who is more skilled than Vader, has beaten Ventress, has dueled evenly with Grievous, fought evenly with Sora Bulq, sparred evenly with Saesee Tiin, etc. - all of his opponents have a wealth of feats or accolades to draw from, except Saesee, but he still has a few accolades to portend a high level of skill. On the other hand, Vader's opponents are mostly featless. Vader has beaten Roan Shyrne, beaten An'ya Kuro, beaten Kento Marek, fought evenly with Ben Kenobi, beaten multiple Jedi, etc, but all of these Jedi have no feats (Ben is not as skilled as Obi-Wan, as sources have revealed him to be slower, out of practice, and a "mere shadow of what he once was"). Vader's skill improved drastically after performing these feats, which allowed him to defeat TESB Luke and fight evenly with RotJ Luke. Windu is the second most skilled duelist in the Order by AotC, and is one of the most skilled duelists in the Old Republic, but Vader is one of the most skilled swordsmen in all of history. He is not far from Windu in this area at all.

Power, on the other hand, is clearly in Vader's favor. Windu has collapsed unstable cliff faces, hurled droids nearly three kilometers, levitated himself and Nick Rotsu down a couple hundred meter fall, and manipulated trees, boulders and AT-TE's. Vader, by contrast, has collapsed cathedrals, Crushed gargantuan droids, toppled gigantic trees, utilized Choke across a Star Destroyer, hurled platoons of soldiers, casually slapped behemoths with trees, crushed TIE fighters, incited avalanches, Crushed Jedi hearts, casually collapsed ceilings, destroyed rooms, etc. His Force Screams have cracked apartment walls, wrecked medical facilities, melted durasteel, and collapsed portions of ceiling. His power is very clearly superior by an appreciable margin.

Regarding overall versatility, this should also be in Vader's favor. Windu has shown levitational telekinetic powers, has utilized Immovability to adhere to a Maglev train rushing at 300km/h and still dueled agilely against Grievous, has displayed Mind Tricks, knows Shatterpoint, etc. but Vader has instilled fear in others, has utilized Drain Knowledge on Luke Skywalker, a more potent telepath than Windu, has used Alter Environment to create and control winds, has utilized Deflection against blaster bolts, has repelled lightsaber blows with Deflection, has repulsed torrential barrages of blaster fire with Barrier, and so on. Mace's Shatterpoint is extremely unlikely to afford him any advantage here, as it has only really served him against fodder characters.

Vader for a solid majority, 7-8/10.

And now they are but "legends" according to disney :D:D:D:D:D and not canon feats. Princesess and talking animals for everyone!

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#21  Edited By Faymousinus

@linark: They are in the top 10 sith, but they are no where close to the top 10.

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@linark: Well then we have no problem.

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@faymousinus: I hope they someday expand TOR and before eras novelizations, cause its somehow hard to know how strong many siths/jedis from those eras were.

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@shootingnova: I haven't seen Vader cover his entire body in lightsaber light. And Mace has punched dozens of times within seconds and ran in blurs. Just look at Clone Wars from 2003 (I think that was the year) when he took out armies of droids with his bare hands. From what I've seen from Vader, he is slow and wouldn't be able to keep up with his strikes. Look at Luke vs Vader in Episode 6, he lost to friggin Luke who at the time wasn't as strong or as fast as Mace. And if you say he tapped into the Dark side, then Mace does too because that's exactly what his lightsaber form revolves around. And Shatterpoint could also grant Windu an edge, so he could see what he could do to cause damage to Vader's suit. Though Vader is definitely stronger and more durable, and may know more powers (which most of them wouldn't be useful in this fight anyways), I'd say Mace 6-7/10

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@_raptor_: Yes, Vader covered his entire body in the light of his blade before, albeit through a more telekinetic utilization of his lightsaber (IIRC). However, nothing you said really indicates anything. In the EU, the characters are portrayed as much faster than on the screen anyways, and Vader only lost to an amped Luke, not regular Luke who managed to stalemate him. And Luke is not slower than Mace at all. Luke has formed curtains out of his blade, generated afterimages, and deflected blaster fire from over 100 soldiers at once.

And as I said, Shatterpoint has only mattered against fodder characters.

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Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Fisto. His telekinetic displays are not too shabby themselves and he outstrips Kun as duelist.

You've come so far ILS. ;-;

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Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Fisto. His telekinetic displays are not too shabby themselves and he outstrips Kun as duelist.

You've come so far ILS. ;-;

That's frigging hilarious. 2 years younger me is straight up mentally retarded.

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Why bump dis shiz?

Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar) - Vader stomps.

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak - Shaak, because why not.

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus - Tyranus, handily.

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Kun reduces him to ash.

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader - Vader, solidly.

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma - Ulic.

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus - Assuming he doesn't abuse his powers, Malgus might lose here. Assuming he does, he might win.

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous. - Plagueis solos.

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars) - Maul stomps.

Even Piell vs Darth Bane - Bane dies.

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion - Likely Sion, in a good fight.

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus - Nihilus solos.

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress - Savage stomps.

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan - Revan oblitirates.

Yoda vs Darth Krayt. - Yoda, 10/10.

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#30  Edited By echostarlord117

@mjolnirson said:

Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar) - Stomp

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus - Stomp

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Stomp

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus - Eh, a part of me wants to say Malgus simply because of his superior Force power. It's a close battle either way, though

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous - Either Plagueis or Tenebrous can solo

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars) - Stomp

Even Piell vs Darth Bane

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion - Oppo has no way of putting Sion down

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus- Dear god...

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan

Yoda vs Darth Krayt

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1. Vader 10/10.

2. Malak 9-10/10.

3. Dooku 10/10.

4. Exar Kun 10/10.

5. Pre-suit: Vader 8-9/10. Post-suit: Mace 8-9/10.

6. Ulic 8-10/10.

7. Malgus 9/10.

8. Banite Sith ~10/10, they are much more powerful.

9. Maul 10/10.

10. Bane 10/10.

11. Sion 10/10, even if eventually.

12. Traya and Nihilus both can solo 10/10.

13. Tyvokka 7-8/10, but I may be mistaken.

14. Revan 10/10.

15. Yoda 9-10/10.

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1. Ki-Adi Mundi vs ROTS Vader- Darth Vader definitely. At this point, Vader was canonically better than Kenobi and one of the galaxy's finest duelists, as well as he owned Cin Drallig (one of the Order's finest, discounting the fact he was their battlemaster) and slaughtered all Jedi within the temple (it has been confirmed canonically that Anakin killed Shaak Ti during the Temple's fall.) Ki-Adi Mundi is a good duelist but he is obviously behind Vader. Vader has also a better physique/physical strength, he's younger, he has a prosthetic hand more powerful than a human one, and Mundi is average physically. In the Force, Vader is much more powerful.

2. Darth Malak vs Shaak Ti- Darth Malak, I'd say. He's been stated by SWTOR author to be >Revan in dueling, and Revan is no joke. Although Shaak Ti is a good duelist, and her Soresu would be good against Malak's Juyo, but Malak is a much better Force combative wielder. He has Force Stunned Jedi, his Force Lightning is very powerful, and he is good at TK overall, while Shaak Ti's use of the Force is more non-combative then combative. Physically, Shaak is pretty good, but Malak is two meters tall and very strong. Malak 7-8/10, but if Shaak defends his onslaughts and he doesn't use his Force power (which is very unlikely, or else I'd give shaak more rounds) she can tire him out and exploit an opening.

3. Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus- Darth Tyranus. He is a better duelist than Plo, and Plo's form advantage (Djem So over Makashi) is the only thing that makes him last. Force wise, Tyranus is better. Force Lightning>Electric Judgement, and Tyranus' TK>Koon's TK. Physically, Plo should be stronger, but he really has no strength feats to suggest this and his mask is a weakness Dooku can exploit.

4. Exar Kun. Kun was one of the best blademasters of his era, but Fisto's Shii-Cho is very good against Kun's saberstaff. Kun's saberstaff is unorthodox, though, so Fisto might have a bit more difficulty with it. Kun wins mostly due to the Force. He can shoot powerful blasts of Force Lightning/other powerful blasts, is an expert at Sith sorcery. Physically, there's no real disparity.

5.Mace Windu vs Darth Vader- I recommend seeing Antoine Bandele's video on this. Vader FTW.

6. Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Qel Droma- Droma was matching Kun in a duel until Freedon Nadd interrupted and said Kun was master, Qel Droma apprentice because Kun was "more worthy", not because of skill. Tiin has sparred with Mace Windu, but it's sparring, other than that he is featless. Tiin has perfected basic applications of TK, throwing a droid 4 km (1 km farther then Mace Windu.) But BASIC applications. He is focused on pulls, pushes, throws and shoves. No more. I know little of Qel Droma's own TK. Tiin's special telepathy skills will do nothing against another Force wielder, and physically they're kinda equal, Tiin having more strength naturally but being older.

7. Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus- Man, it will take centuries and centuries but Malgus. Antoine Bandele also did a video on this, check it out.

8. Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis & Darth Tenebrous- Plagueis would easily solo, Tenebrous solo could gain a slight majority. Together it is a STOMP.

9. Adi Gallia vs Darth Maul TCW- It's a STOMP for Maul. Really, Adi Gallia is featless in saber combat and Force wise except getting owned by Savage, and Savage got owned by TCW Maul. Maul is a much better duelist, TK and physically. 10/10.

10. Even Piell vs Darth Bane- Piell got owned by a dog. Bane created the Rule of Two. That kind of sets the tone of this battle, doesn't it?

11. Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion- Isn't Sion nearly unkillable? Sion.

12. Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya & Darth Nihilus- Nihilus alone sucks them, with Traya it lasts seconds.

13. Tyvokka vs Savage Opress- Add in Plo Koon to Tyvokka's Team and this becomes fair. Savage, Tyvokka's kinda featless.

14. Satele Shan vs Darth Revan- Revan. Equal or better duelist, better with the Force, surely, and physically better.

15. Yoda vs Darth Krayt- Yoda stomps.

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Sith sweeps

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@mjolnirson:

Mundi defeats Vader with great diffculty.

Malak stomps Shaak Ti.

The third fight could go either way. Plo Koon wins 6/10 times to being in his dueling-prime, while Dooku is not, and also due to the form advantage.

Kun stomps Fisto.

Mace beats Vader, although Vader gives a somewhat decent fight.

Quel-Droma stomps Tiin.

Malgus takes the win but Kenobi gives a reasonably decent fight.

Plagueis and Tenebrous stomp but experience considerable difficulty with Kolar and they get a good fight from Koth.

Bane stomps Piell.

Maul takes his round but Gallia gives a decent fight.

Oppo stomps Sion.

Dyas, Trebor and Kcaj stomp Traya and Nihilus in a lightsaber duel but are easily defeated in a Force fight.

Savage wins after a good battle.

Revan defeats Shan with some effort.

Yoda stomps Krayt but Krayt gives a decent fight.

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Ki Adi Mundi vs ROTS Vader: Vader stomps lmao.

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak: Superior power compensates for any advantages Ti might possess in a melee engagement.

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus: Better at everything.

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun: Again, superior power compensates for any advantages Fisto might have in a saber duel.

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader: Mace can just about compete with RotS Sidious and is considerably more skilled than Vader.

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma: Just better.

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus: Kenobi won't be taken down in the Force and is noticeably better with a blade.

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous: Make the fight's setting an extremely potent LS nexus, give the Jedi 15 ARC troopers and sever Plagueis' trachea- only then can the Jedi last thirty seconds.

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars): Much better at everything, and Maul's vast inferior Savage cruised through Gallia without much difficulty.

Even Piell vs Darth Bane: Leagues more powerful and decently more skilled.

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion: Ugly man is basically unkillable.

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus: This and the Banite duo vs fodder Jedi are in direct competition for a place in the top five, easily, of the most earth shattering Star Wars stomps the Vine has ever seen.

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress: Stronger, more powerful, etc.

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan: Much more powerful.

Yoda vs Darth Krayt: Yoda's near equal to RotS Sidious. Nuff said. Krayt can put up an OK fight especially when it comes to Force though.

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This is a murder stomp in favour of the Sith... Mismatch.

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I can't believe 7 years ago, people have Shan above Revan...

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Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar): Vader

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak: Malak

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus: Dooku

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun: Exar Kun

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader: Mace Windu

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma: ???

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous.: Sith

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars): Maul

Even Piell vs Darth Bane: Darth Bane

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion:Sion

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus: Sith

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress: Savage

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan: Revan

Yoda vs Darth Krayt.: Krayt

Rules: winner by death or K.O. No morals.

Place:

Asgard.

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Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar)

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous.

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars)

Even Piell vs Darth Bane

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan

Yoda vs Darth Krayt.

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Sith for a majority

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Sith win in all cases, except for like two. There's not really too many arguments to be had here.

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#44  Edited By BreakOfDawn

You can tell how dated this thread is.

Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar) - Stomp.

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus - Stomp.

Kit Fisto vs Exar Kun - Stomp.

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader - Pretty much a stomp.

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous.

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars) - Stomp.

Even Piell vs Darth Bane

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan

Yoda vs Darth Krayt.

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Ki-Adi-Mundi vs Darth Vader (pre mustafar)

lol

Shaak Ti vs Darth Malak

This is actually quite interesting. I think putting Revan in a force whirlwind, and making him a desperate fight, as well as being above Exar Kun is more impressive than fighting a pre-prime Galen on a LS nexus, although she did dominate the planet, but I still give the slight edge to Malak

Plo Koon vs Darth Tyranus

lol

Kit Fisto vs Exar

Kun Kun dominates through vastly superior force capabilities and his unorthodox style can also give him an edge in dueling. Fisto also have no counters for Sith sorcery

Mace Windu vs Darth Vader

Vader prime > ANH Vader > ROTS KF Vader = ROTS Sidious > Mace. In terms of feats, and ignoring this scaling, they are quite close, but slight edge to Vader due to superior force powers.

Saesee Tiin vs Ulic Quel-Droma

This is quite interesting. But Ulic's superior dueling skills should give him an edge, tho I can be biased cause Ulic is my third fav character in SW.

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus

Slight edge to Malgus in my opinion, as he has superior force capabilities and Obi Wan's defensive style means that Obi Wan can't just outduel him immediately, and Malgus have plenty of time to use his superior TK / lightning to kill Kenobi. Good fight tho.

Agen Kolar, Stass Allie, Eeth Koth vs Darth Plagueis and Darth Tenebrous.

Um... Sith dominates

Adi Galia vs Darth Maul (clone wars)

Given that Savage was superior to Gallia, and in that same episode Maul was dominating Savage...

Even Piell vs Darth Bane

What has Even Piell did of note that makes him remotely comparable to Bane?

Oppo Rancisis vs Darth Sion

Super good fight, although slight edge to Sion due to immortality. But if no immortality, then Oppo should win fairly easily

Syfo Dyas, Coleman Trebor, Coleman Kcaj vs Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus
Either one solo with absolute ease, both of them can just drain or dominate all three using TK

Tyvokka vs Savage Opress

Not to familiar with Tyvokka's feats, just know he is the wookie padawan of Plo Koon

Satele Shan vs Darth Revan

Even if this is DARTH Revan, he still wins. If this is prime Revan...

Yoda vs Darth Krayt.

Eh, slight edge to Yoda I guess

Rules: winner by death or K.O. No morals.

Place:

Asgard.

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"Mace Winduvs Darth Vader - Pretty much a stomp."

I thought you held Vader high?

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Sadly this mostly stomps alll but tbh.. only one

Sith team slaughterstomp

Sith win in all cases, except for like two. There's not really too many arguments to be had here.

but no your right.. sith general beyond broken only one since truely top were mace,yoda,Satele Shan but sadly only make it out those 2.. but sith in case beyond broken not shocked more of stomp excluding emperors and shit everyone viote. tbh exclude other powerful sith not many power jedi in general i mean there luke etc. but sith so many.. thse mother fucker Vitiate and his family heck excluded Darth Marr hes better fighter then malgus so in this case but anyway this sith sadly stomps fuck out of themm yes even raven BECAUSE RAVEn mf give most everyone death..

raven prime vs pelt

i mean raven shittomp and won a debate on vitate and Nihilus

someone about killed.. but yes sadly raven just stomps her.. but depends on which raven also because stale far more powerful people give credit for

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Sadly this mostly stomps alll but tbh.. only one

@hellothere5432 said:

Sith team slaughterstomp

@thrawn_fanboy said:

Sith win in all cases, except for like two. There's not really too many arguments to be had here.

but no your right.. sith general beyond broken only one since truely top were mace,yoda,Satele Shan but sadly only make it out those 2.. but sith in case beyond broken not shocked more of stomp excluding emperors and shit everyone viote. tbh exclude other powerful sith not many power jedi in general i mean there luke etc. but sith so many.. thse mother fucker Vitiate and his family heck excluded Darth Marr hes better fighter then malgus so in this case but anyway this sith sadly stomps fuck out of themm yes even raven BECAUSE RAVEn mf give most everyone death..

raven prime vs pelt

i mean raven shittomp and won a debate on vitate and Nihilus

someone about killed.. but yes sadly raven just stomps her.. but depends on which raven also because stale far more powerful people give credit for

Try to work on improving your grammar, and Revan has ragdolled Satele Shan in the past, which can be found here:

(Links for citation -- https://i.imgur.com/JA5PSiM.gifv (.GIFV), https://i.imgur.com/JA5PSiM.gif (.GIF))

(★ FT) Revan dominated Darth Marr, Satele Shan, Lana Beniko, Shae Vizla, Theron Shan, and Jakarro, pulling them all into himself, forming a Force maelstrom, and hurling them backward and incapacitating them in suspension against pillars (see also: III/Force_barrier/FT/1). The light side Force users were sundered in dark side energies and the dark side Force users were trapped in light side energies. Revan blasted the team and the Outlander with Force destruction, slowly siphoning their power and killing them (see also: III/Force_drain/FT/1). The team was helpless against Revan and would have been killed if not for exterior aid.

Destroying all. [The strike team is] slowly being destroyed by Revan.

Source: Star Wars The Old Republic - Shadow of Revan
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(Links for citation -- https://i.imgur.com/n3mW6e2.gifv (.GIFV), https://i.imgur.com/n3mW6e2.gif (.GIF))

Credits to Darthant who was unjustly banned

So no matter how underrate Satele is, Revan still sh*ts on her

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#50  Edited By BreakOfDawn
@donloota said:

@breakofdawn:

"Mace Winduvs Darth Vader - Pretty much a stomp."

I thought you held Vader high?

I hold him slightly above Dooku overall, who himself is significantly below the titans. Mace is a much better duelist than Vader, more agile, faster, and significantly more powerful.