Heralds Of Galactus Vs Darkseid

@green_skaar: Deducing Gladiators weakness being his confidence isn't exploiting a vulnerability intrinsic to the New Gods and exists only in the DC Universe.

Typically DC vs Marvel fights we assume the powers of each universe are present, otherwise speed force, omega effect, power cosmic, etc. wouldn't matter in so many fights.

Is that the Destroyer? If so, it solos.

@revan2424:

Based on what does the Destroyer defeat Pre Crisis Darkseid?

@green_skaar: But nobody has a weakness to any of those things. Those are offensive or sometimes versatile abilities intrinsic to the character, not a substance that biologically affects them.

He wasnt referring to the confidence, IIRC. Gladiator also has a weakness to a certain wave length of radiation. The cosmic awareness didnt make him deduce it so much as just know it. Its reasonable to think CA would allow him to just sort of "know" DS' weakness as well.

@ginman333: When has Gladiator been weak to radiation? Genuinely curious as that would help for another project I'm working on.

As far as I know, that was the first moment it came up. lol. I only recently discovered this myself. No idea if there has ever been a showing where it was exploited though.

Doens't PC Darkseid stomp?

@lordwhiskers:

So the Surfer is going to magically conjure radion and deduce thats Darkseids weakness somehow in a random encounter?

Yes.

Yeah that shit isn't happening.

Surfer's cosmic awareness will allow him to know everything there is to know about his opponent. Just like he knew Gladiator's weakness immediately, he will know Darkseid's. His vast energy manipulation will allow him to use radion powered blasts or radiation on Darkseid, thus defeating him.

Having a weakness doesn't count somebody out of a fight.

Darkseid was killed by a Radion bullet fired by Batman. Imagine what a herald of Galactus can do with this stuff.

Also plenty of characters have weaknesses. Surfer has gotten his ass kicked by Thanos and Odin before.

What does him getting beat by Thanos and Odin have to do with this? Thanos and Odin have no weaknesses that can be used against them.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a wall, you don't listen. First off where is surfer going to get radion? And even if Surfer gets radion Darkseid isn't going to stand still and let him be shot by it. Darkseid one shots all of the heralds and gives the destroyer a beat down.

Surfer has shown the ability to transmute on many occasions, so he could certainly just create radion. Similarly, Im sure the weakness to radion is because of a wavelength of radiation/energy it omits, which he would then be able to replicate. All the heralds have cosmic awareness and all have the same abilities for energy projection (Im guessing they all have the transmute power as well, but not sure who all has shown the skills to do so), so its not just SS that can utilize this ability against DS, but rather all of them.

Bullshit. He's not creating Radion how would he even know how to create it?

@trumpsupporter: You know what, nevermind. Not worth arguing with you. This was a perfectly fine exchange of opinions but you are now throwing out insults and cursing and such.

That's not what I meant, let me reword. Those are abilities that are specific to a universe. The speed force, omega effect do not exist in Marvel, only in DC. Your previous comment of how SS would know DS's weakness since he's from an other universe prompted me to make that comment. Assuming SS's cosmic awareness is working, he'll know, otherwise if we want to say he wouldn't since he's in another universe conversly I could say DS's omega effect wouldn't work. Does that make sense?

@citizensentry

Silver Surfer could solo with medium difficulty.

Darkseid's got a weakness to Radion? If so he is toast. Surfer alone is one of the best energy manipulators in all of comics.

When did I insult you???

So surfers soloing someone who's above thanos? Lmao OKK

"The Fallen One" (first herlad) almost killed Thanos, he would without a doubt solo..

Fallen one got knocked out when a planet exploded..... hes not soloing

@ginman333: @lordwhiskers: @green_skaar: Forget Radion, Can't the Silver Surfer just manipulate the energy of Darkseid's Omega beams? Even if Darkseid could take out one of the Heralds with his Omega Beams, aren't the rest fast enough to swarm him and strong enough together, if not individually, to put him down?

He and terrax have a jobbing competition

@trumpsupporter: Maybe your right but he could put up the good fight on his own... either way with SS, Star-Dust, Air-walker, Fire Lord and Morg backing him up Darksied does'nt stand a chance in this fight, mis-match, and if we include the destroyer as well it's just unfair what did Darksied doo to deserve this?

Yes. Yes.

It seems we're like-minded on all things Surfer.

@cramandman: Lmao at Surfer manipulating the Omega Effect.

@cramandman: Silver Surfer is my favorite male Marvel character. I have practically everything you can think of for him in terms of comics. I have an action figure and post of him on my wall above my bed; he watches over me while I'm sleeping.

@krleavenger: post crisis darkseid one shotting me and destroyer is doubtful.

@king_majestros: How are you liking the newest Surfer comic series? It looks like they've paired him with a human companion, like the Doctor!

@detacude: Fallen one couldn't even make Thanos flinch.

@cramandman: I like 'em. The artwork is weird, but the stories are good.

@king_majestros: I've been meaning to give it a try!

@firsthunter: As for the destroyer OF is the power source of its creation so I think that's why Thor was able to destroy it so easily. That said to someone else no way norrin beats darksied alone. Just because he has an ability doesn't mean it would work. Thanos and warlock one and two shot him already. Cosmic awareness rarely helped him. So don't see how norrin has a chance really don't you think..

@iamsilversurfer: Can you the same about Darksied?

@trumpsupporter: He's not above Thanos

Heralds

@iamsilversurfer: He can't one shot the Destroyer but if he really wanted to, he could one shot Surfer IMO. He one shotted Hank Henshaw.

@kgb725:

Pre-Crisis Darkseid is above Thanos via feats.

@bladeoffury:

Darkseid was killed by a Radion bullet fired by Batman.

Not Pre-Crisis and Darkseid was weakened.

When does Pre-Crisis Darkseid job?

@destinyman75:

Where's the proof that the Odin-Force is what powers the Destroyer?

Fallen one got stomped by Thanos and KO'ed by a Gas Giant Explosion. Darkseid stomps.

How?

@firsthunter:

All versions of Darkseid have a weakness to Radion. Sure PC Darkseid is stronger than most of his other versions, but there was nothing mentioned about him being immune to Radion. Radion is lethal to all new gods.

@bladeoffury:

And when has Surfer instantly deducted someone's weakness (which is a material from a different Universe) and then create it in combat?

@firsthunter:

@green_skaar said:

@lordwhiskers said:

@bladeoffury: So the Surfer is going to magically conjure radion and deduce thats Darkseids weakness somehow in a random encounter? Yeah that shit isn't happening.

Cosmic awareness

Here...

He didn't create it because he didn't want to, as he stated.