Natasha Romanoff (Marvel) VS Nyssa al Ghul (Arrow)
VS
Setup:
- Most current versions.
- Standard Gear.
- Incharacter.
They start 100 feet apart on this rooftop:
Who wins?
VS
They start 100 feet apart on this rooftop:
Who wins?
Come on guys, please focus on the actual battle.
I was really not impressed by Nyssa. The potential is real however so we don't know in the future.
For the moment my vote goes to Natasha.
Tough call. Nyssa did pretty good against Oliver in their first fight, though Malcolm recently treated her like a joke. Though she did alright during the three-way battle with Oliver and Malcolm afterwards. Not a very impressive win record, but then again Widow has never defeated a decent fighter either, besides Hawkeye, but even then he doesn't have any feats either. I'm pretty confident Nyssa could replicate Widow's feats against cannon fodder given her status as an elite LoA ninja and the fact that she trained Sara. Overall though Widow is a lot trickier and more intelligent plus she has some good gear, so I'll give her the win.
Tough call. Nyssa did pretty good against Oliver in their first fight, though Malcolm recently treated her like a joke. Though she did alright during the three-way battle with Oliver and Malcolm afterwards. Not a very impressive win record, but then again Widow has never defeated a decent fighter either, besides Hawkeye, but even then he doesn't have any feats either. I'm pretty confident Nyssa could replicate Widow's feats against cannon fodder given her status as an elite LoA ninja and the fact that she trained Sara. Overall though Widow is a lot trickier and more intelligent plus she has some good gear, so I'll give her the win.
I was literally ok with this till you gave Natasha the win =P
Tough call. Nyssa did pretty good against Oliver in their first fight, though Malcolm recently treated her like a joke. Though she did alright during the three-way battle with Oliver and Malcolm afterwards. Not a very impressive win record, but then again Widow has never defeated a decent fighter either, besides Hawkeye, but even then he doesn't have any feats either. I'm pretty confident Nyssa could replicate Widow's feats against cannon fodder given her status as an elite LoA ninja and the fact that she trained Sara. Overall though Widow is a lot trickier and more intelligent plus she has some good gear, so I'll give her the win.
I was literally ok with this till you gave Natasha the win =P
A small DC bias here my dear?
:-)
@bullpr: Nope.Just find Natasha very unimpressive
@bullpr: Nope.Just find Natasha very unimpressive
I will have to disagree here. But, at least I can easily concede that I love Scarlett Johansson (the actress).
@bullpr: Nope.Just find Natasha very unimpressive
Her consistent intelligence throughout the MCU movies is worth admiration. I mean she tricked the god of deceit and mischief.
@nickzambuto: Risking a very important hard drive on the idea that nobody would buy Bubble Gum isn't smart ;)
Joking aside,I meant physical/combat wise IMO
@nickzambuto: Risking a very important hard drive on the idea that nobody would buy Bubble Gum isn't smart ;)
Joking aside,I meant physical/combat wise IMO
She didn't do that, Cap did. She got it out.
@rbt: Natasha dodged Hawkeyes arrow, Hawkeye is a better archer then Nyssa by a 100 million miles.
@rbt: Natasha dodged Hawkeyes arrow, Hawkeye is a better archer then Nyssa by a 100 million miles.
She aim dodged Clint's arrow. She moved out of way right before he could shoot. Nyssa has legitimately dodged Oliver's arrow.
Her consistent intelligence throughout the MCU movies is worth admiration. I mean she tricked the god of deceit and mischief.
except he's not a god, just a sneaky alien
Her consistent intelligence throughout the MCU movies is worth admiration. I mean she tricked the god of deceit and mischief.
except he's not a god, just a sneaky alien
So? It's not like he hasn't proven the extent of his trickery.
@rbt: and why cant she aim dodge Nyssa if she could aim dodge a better archer besides she probably could catch an arrow considering what normal agents of shield been able to d, catching knives thrown by superhumans ect ect and she was the best agent of shield
@nickzambuto: and? tricking an extremely arrogant and talkative guy into talking isn't going to help in this fight
@rbt: and why cant she aim dodge Nyssa if she could aim dodge a better archer besides she probably could catch an arrow considering what normal agents of shield been able to d, catching knives thrown by superhumans ect ect and she was the best agent of shield
Sure, but for how long? She aim dodged one arrow. How is she gonna fare when there are lots of arrows coming her way? As for catching arrows, no. She has never displayed reflexes even close to that.
@rbt: yeah but the thing is she isnt going to just be running at her, her normal equipment is two pistols which can fire automatic and her marksmen feats where quite good nyssa will have to be dodging bullets which she hasnt shown yet yeah she could aim dodge but she wont be able to pin her down due to her agility and guns and if this gets to h2h widow should take it
@rbt: yeah but the thing is she isnt going to just be running at her, her normal equipment is two pistols which can fire automatic and her marksmen feats where quite good nyssa will have to be dodging bullets which she hasnt shown yet yeah she could aim dodge but she wont be able to pin her down due to her agility and guns
I do agree that guns would make it harder for Nyssa, but you've to consider her agility. The way she dodged an arrow by doing a back flip followed by a very quick forward flip was beyond impressive. Pistols are the reason I said 8/10 and not 10/10.
and if this gets to h2h widow should take it
I don't agree with this at all. Nyssa was fighting evenly with Oliver. I don't think Widow is as good as a h2h combatant as her, let alone better.
@rbt:
I thought she was impressive at first but the way merlyn casually destroyed her made me think otherwise
@rbt:
I thought she was impressive at first but the way merlyn casually destroyed her made me think otherwise
Merlyn casually destroyed Oliver so that shouldn't come as a surprise. Merlyn along with Slade, is currently the best h2h combatant in Arrow verse. Oliver being third. IMO, of course.
@rbt: I agree with him being high up but personally now with extra experience I could see Ollie beating Merlyn h2h and black widow held her own vs WS for abor then resorted to use device she would of lost but she was able to fight WS for abit and WS could beat everyone in arrow except maybe mirakiru slade
I agree with him being high up but personally now with extra experience I could see Ollie beating Merlyn h2h
IMO, Oliver still has to go a long way before he can take Merlyn in strict h2h fihgt. Same goes about Oliver and Slade.
black widow held her own vs WS for abor then resorted to use device she would of lost but she was able to fight WS for abit
Actually from that scene on the bridge it was clear that Natasha was no match for Bucky. She jumped on him by taking him by surprise. Then he swatted her off and the fight was over.
WS could beat everyone in arrow except maybe mirakiru slade
I agree. Only one in Arrowverse who would defeat Bucky is Slade. Though Merlyn would give him hell in a h2h fight. So would Oliver(though he'd ultimately loose.)
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