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#1 Edited by XiiX (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

VS

Rorschach

Ozymandias

The Comedian

and

Nite Owl

-First round, standard equipment applies

-Second round, strictly hand to hand combat.

-Takes place in the streets and/or rooftops of Gotham City

(If the odds prove too great for Batman to overcome alone, Damian Wayne can be added as his partner, making it 2 on 4 for the second round only).

#2 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

this reminds me, I need to go down to the store and check out some Before Watchmen comics. They look pretty cool.

#3 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Bruce can handle them with standard equipment.

in the h2h round Bats may get overwhelmed.

#4 Posted by TheMinister (1131 posts) - - Show Bio

First round.... Im not to sure. Could go either way.

Second round, Team definitely. Ozymandias would give Bats a hard enough time alone. Add the other 3 and they will definitely win.

#5 Posted by Doombot_666 (213 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozymandias alone could probably beat Batman. He has a strength, speed, and intelligence advantage, and has fighting skills on par with Batman's. Ozymandias' intelligence isn't just for setting vast draconian schemes into motion either. He is an amazing tactician. The only advantage Batman has over Ozymandias is his gadgets. Throw in Rorschach, the Comedian, and Nite Owl, and Batman stands no chance. The Watchmen win both rounds with no problem.

#6 Posted by XiiX (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

*I've edited the OP*

#7 Edited by Wolfrazer (6038 posts) - - Show Bio

So where are they? Cause standard equipment for Rorschach is whatever he can get from his environment. 

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#8 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Batman

Round 2: Well...depends. Batman has to fight them one at a time or all at once? If a fight one on one, Batman can beat them all, the Comedian and Rorschach pretty easily. Nite Owl is already a battle more interesting, but, Nite Owl not to the level of Batman. Ozymandis is the only one who could beat Batman here.

Batman vs Ozymandis is very interesting.

#9 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman.

#10 Posted by XiiX (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wolfrazer: *Streets/rooftops of Gotham*

#11 Posted by XiiX (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505: He takes them on all at once(if need be, he can call on Damian for help).

#12 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio
(If the odds prove too great for Batman to overcome alone, Damian Wayne can be added as his partner, making it 2 on 4).

well, this helps Batman. At this point there is no doubt. Batman wins.

#13 Posted by XiiX (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505: You don't think Batman can take them on his own?

#14 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

@Alexander505: You don't think Batman can take them on his own?

Yes, Batman can, but with the help of Damian, is certain victory.

#15 Posted by XiiX (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505: Damian would only be called upon if(in your opinion) he'd be needed.

#16 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman can only win with gadgets. Ozymandais alone in H2H could prove too much. His speed alone rivals Batman's, and it's implied that he is more than proficient in Martial Arts, which is pretty much as good as feats.

#17 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

@Alexander505: Damian would only be called upon if(in your opinion) he'd be needed.

Knowing Batman, and knowing how big his ego, not call Damian, but would try to beat them alone.

So...

Batman can easily beat the Comedian and Rorschach. At the end of the battle would be between Batman vs Nite Owl and Ozymandis. Unless, Nite Owl and Ozymandis plan a good teamwork between them, Batman can beat Nite Owl, and in the end would be against Ozymandis, the only one that is really at the level of Batman.

#18 Posted by XiiX (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505: Good breakdown.

#19 Posted by Billy Batson (57753 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman for both rounds.
BB

#20 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Basically guys, the fight will end in Batman against Ozymandis. Ozymandis is the only one who can beat Batman here.

Batman (without gadgets) vs Ozymandis. Who wins?

#21 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Batman can only win with gadgets. Ozymandais alone in H2H could prove too much. His speed alone rivals Batman's, and it's implied that he is more than proficient in Martial Arts, which is pretty much as good as feats.

Ozymandis deflects a bullet. Batman dodges it even three at once.

#22 Edited by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505 said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Batman can only win with gadgets. Ozymandais alone in H2H could prove too much. His speed alone rivals Batman's, and it's implied that he is more than proficient in Martial Arts, which is pretty much as good as feats.

Ozymandis deflects a bullet. Batman dodges it even three at once.

Fail Logic. Dodging Bullets =/= Catching Bullets. Ozymandais's feat outclasses everything you just posted. (BTW, what's the first scan from? Just curious.)

#23 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, ok...here...

BTW, what's the first scan from? Just curious.

Batman #585

#24 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505: Cool thanks.

Eh, he skimmed that bullet at best. Catching a bullet takes a whole nother level of corodination.

#25 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, at most Ozymandis is slightly faster, but that does not lead to victory against Batman. For example, Nightwing is slightly faster than Batman, but that does not mean Dick can beat Bruce in a fight.

However, I repeat. In the end, only Ozymandis could beat Batman. Obviously with the gadgets, Batman wins easily.

#26 Posted by Shawnbaby (10406 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1 would be tough for Batman but he could potentially pull it off.

Round 2 even with Damian's Help I think Bruce Loses. Bruce would have his hands full just with Ozymandias. Which leaves Damian alone against Nite Owl, Rorschach and the Comedian. Once they put Damian down..they can join in and overwhelm Bruce.

#27 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505: No argument there. Ozymandais is the only factor here.

#28 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman vs Ozymandis...

#29 Posted by never give up (9484 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#30 Edited by Shawnbaby (10406 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505 @ImTheDamnBatman:

Except he's fighting all of them at once...so while they might not equal Bruce in skill...none of them are slouches either...One at a time he could beat them all and him and Adrian could then have a go which would be a pretty good fight where either of them could potentially win. Don't count them as non-factors when he's already going to be having difficulties with Ozymandias alone.

#31 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman can beat the Comedian and Rorschach with a single punch. <.<

The advantage is a battleground. It 's very large, and there is a lot of freedom to move and escape.

#32 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby: Well, I think of it kind of like Superman vs Thor, Wolverine, Spiderman, and Batman. Yeah, they're all fighting him at once, but the only one that can really give him trouble is Thor.

#33 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@Shawnbaby: Well, I think of it kind of like Superman vs Thor, Wolverine, Spiderman, and Batman. Yeah, they're all fighting him at once, but the only one that can really give him trouble is Thor.

It seems incredible, but it is so :O

#34 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

Has Ozy only ever caught a bullet once? Is that his main feat besides beating up Rors, Nite Owl, and an old Comedian?

#35 Posted by Shawnbaby (10406 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@Shawnbaby: Well, I think of it kind of like Superman vs Thor, Wolverine, Spiderman, and Batman. Yeah, they're all fighting him at once, but the only one that can really give him trouble is Thor.

That's a completely false analogy. Thor is the only one Capable of hurting Superman. Batman is a regular human and can be hurt by each of them. Fail argument is fail.

#36 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

In the end, will be just Batman and Ozymandis. As I said, unless the team does not arrange with a good plan, at the end...Batman will face one opponent: Ozymandis.

#37 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

Has Ozy only ever caught a bullet once? Is that his main feat besides beating up Rors, Nite Owl, and an old Comedian?

You're right. What else did Ozymandis so special?

#38 Posted by Chaos Burn (1773 posts) - - Show Bio

ozymandias could solo in both rounds? hear me out!

Fight 1 - could be 'smart' enough to analyse his surroundings, and catch Batmans batarangs, dodge his grip hook, know when to avoid any gas or flash pellets... i mean he has some great speed feats.

Fight 2 - imo just as good as bats in h2h, certainly his 'fighting mind' could be better...

#39 Edited by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby: It wasn't a literal argument. I was trying to explain how different I see the skill barrier is between Batman and the others is using hyperbole. In other words, it was a small joke. Fail comment is fail.

#40 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505:

It was a legitimate question, I haven't read Watchmen.

#41 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio
Fight 1 - could be 'smart' enough to analyse his surroundings, and catch Batmans batarangs, dodge his grip hook, know when to avoid any gas or flash pellets... i mean he has some great speed feats.

Is Ozymandis not Superman -.- In addition, even Batman is a genius ...

However, in the end, it always comes back to the usual point

Batman vs Ozymandis.

#42 Posted by Shawnbaby (10406 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@Shawnbaby: It wasn't a literal argument. I was trying to explain how different I see the skill barrier is between Batman and the others is using hyperbole. In other words, it was a small joke. Fail comment is fail.

Joke wasn't funny. Fail joke is Fail.

#43 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby: Lol, overusing that "fail" comment much? I think it being used twice is enough already, let's not rage here. Anyways, most jokes arn't supposed to make you die of laughter. Most usually don't even get a chuckle. Perfect example: Your last comment.

#44 Posted by Shawnbaby (10406 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@Shawnbaby: Lol, overusing that "fail" comment much? I think it being used twice is enough already, let's not rage here. Anyways, most jokes arn't supposed to make you die of laughter. Most usually don't even get a chuckle. Perfect example: Your last comment.

Let's leave it there then....you've admitted your analogy is completely false...that's good enough for me.

#45 Posted by never give up (9484 posts) - - Show Bio

@Chaos Burn said:

ozymandias could solo in both rounds? hear me out!

Fight 1 - could be 'smart' enough to analyse his surroundings, and catch Batmans batarangs, dodge his grip hook, know when to avoid any gas or flash pellets... i mean he has some great speed feats.

Fight 2 - imo just as good as bats in h2h, certainly his 'fighting mind' could be better...

Aren't Batman's batarangs sometimes explosives and he throws it because he knows some of his opponents can catch them.

#46 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman has fought opponents who are more skilled and stronger than Ozymandias. And won, and no I am not talking about true metahumans.

Batman is way more experienced and skilled than Ozymandias in hand to hand combat.

Batman has way more feats of skill, strength, speed, durability, and pretty much everything than Ozymandias.

I will grant that Ozymandias is faster, but Batman has the edge in every area.

Batman wins both rounds.

#47 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@Shawnbaby: Lol, overusing that "fail" comment much? I think it being used twice is enough already, let's not rage here. Anyways, most jokes arn't supposed to make you die of laughter. Most usually don't even get a chuckle. Perfect example: Your last comment.

Let's leave it there then....you've admitted your analogy is completely false...that's good enough for me.

Exactly. No need for useless arguments in this decent thread.

#48 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

Batman has fought opponents who are more skilled and stronger than Ozymandias. And won, and no I am not talking about true metahumans.

Batman is way more experienced and skilled than Ozymandias in hand to hand combat.

Batman has way more feats of skill, strength, speed, durability, and pretty much everything than Ozymandias.

I will grant that Ozymandias is faster, but Batman has the edge in every area.

Batman wins both rounds.

I totally agree with you.

In addition, Rorschach and the Comedian are too easy to beat.

#49 Posted by Chaos Burn (1773 posts) - - Show Bio

@never give up said:

@Chaos Burn said:

ozymandias could solo in both rounds? hear me out!

Fight 1 - could be 'smart' enough to analyse his surroundings, and catch Batmans batarangs, dodge his grip hook, know when to avoid any gas or flash pellets... i mean he has some great speed feats.

Fight 2 - imo just as good as bats in h2h, certainly his 'fighting mind' could be better...

Aren't Batman's batarangs sometimes explosives and he throws it because he knows some of his opponents can catch them.

lol, spose it'd be stupid to catch an explosive batarang, he'd probs throw it back...

#50 Posted by ohgodwhy (96 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice pics, Batman's a lot faster and powerful than I thought he was. It's definitely going to be a good fight but personally I think Batman could take this.