Batman & Drakon vs Panther & Daredevil

Batman and Constantine Drakon vs Black Panther and Daredevil

Setting:In downtown LA. Streets are unpopulated. Start 50ft apart

Rules:

Morals off

K.O. or Death ftw

Current 616

Pre/New 52 Batman

Pre 52 Drakon

H2H only. No weapons or gadgets.Wearing current suit/armor/clothing. H2H ONLY!

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I know very little about Constantine

I feel inclined to toss my bone to Team 1 with Drakon being the MVP due to speed.

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If we are using current Black Panther I think team 2 wins.

Pre New 52 Batman alone thrashes all of them together.

And I thought I was the Batman fanboy.

@wenjunchew: How?

But yeah team one does win.

Master of 127 martial arts, Batman is.

Quality over quantity.

Confuse the opponents with unpredictable mixture of martial arts.

Or Batman can fight dirty.

It isn't against the rules for that.

@wenjunchew: H2H only Batman would likely lose to Drakon, Split 50/50 with Panther, and get a slight majority over DD.

Against all three of them at the same time Bruce gets schooled.

Would still be less effective, if you think about it.

Attacking your opponent with rudimentary maneuvers from several different styles would be far less confusing and disorientating than using highly advanced secret moves that only a true Grandmaster would know.

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Batman and Drakon

Drakon is good, but what does he have to get through whatever armor the now superhuman Black Panther has? This is a guy who was skilled enough to dodge and tag Spiderman without the herb. Just saying, this requires the sustained low balling of a mid tier Iron Man level guy.

Team 1 in a good fight. Matt can beat Bruce, but I feel Drakon will be too fast for Challa.

Team 2 due to panther.

@wenjunchew: so how will he damage BP vibrainium suit? Or how will he deal with being outclassed by black panthers meta human speed and strength

This seems to be a popular slang but no...

Actually, quantity is always better than quality when it comes to martial arts.

Lets say we have someone who knows boxing and aikido at a decent level. There is another person who only knows boxing but is a master.

Who would win if they fought?

Before you come out and say the guy who is a boxing master wins, I should say that is the wrong answer.

The guy who has even a decent aikido knowledge would absolutely wreck the boxing master because aikido is a martial art style that can counter boxing.

So yeah, quantity over quality.

Why do you think so?

Actually just read morals off. I withdraw that claim.

Team 1.

as much as i like Drakon I'm not sure how i feel about him in battles, since we've never seen him lose in h2h, only to trick arrows or surprise attacks, and once when the jla's heavy hitters showed up, when fighting stright up fighters/martial artists like matt or t'challa we've never seen him go down, only toy with his opponents(connor, ollie and roy)

What are his feats? What puts him on BP, DD,or BM level of skill? I know nothing on this guy.

Team 1

Thats a handpicked scenario. And not even that accurate...the guy with the mix of boxing and aikido wins due to his knowledge of aikido...his boxing knowledge is irrelevant. He isn't mixing the forms...he's just using straight up aikido moves.

If you were to switch it so one guy is a master of aikido while the other is still just decently skilled in boxing and aikido...the Aikido master would wreck the other guy.

@wenjunchew: old BP beats Batman for majority current BP stomps Batman. DD can beat Batman but Bats might take majority and Drakon slaps fire out of your BFF Batman.

Also team 2 due to KoD BP.

Team 2

Team 2 if this is current Black Panther.

even if its pre-doom wars then he has the vibranium suit which neither bruce nor Drakon is getting past with just fists...

i can make a case for BP to solo 6/10 but adding DD makes this a solid win for team 2

Black Panther doesn't solo this even on his best day.

If by pre-doom wars BP you mean depowered BP without the herb, then Team 2 loses after a good fight.

@don_quixote: no depowered BP would be post doom wars... if he has his vibranium suit (which would be Pre-Doom Wars) and Drakon and Bruce only have their fists than he solo's and quite easily... mainly because they wouldnt hurt him. Black Panther tanked Blows from Hulk and Namor with his Vibranium suit

@kidman560: It isn't Pre-Doomwar.

And Deathstroke has tanked blows from Lobo in his promethium armor. That doesn't mean he can take Batman and Drakon at the same time.

And where did you get that Batman is unarmed or doesn't have his suit?

then its current KoTD BP capable of replicating every speed feat that Pre-Doom wars was capable of and more...

seeing as Steve can throw his shield fast enough to block bullets after they have been fired im not exactly worried about speed... Bruce is a non-factor to someone as skilled and as fast as T'challa (who as KoTD was capable of tearing a man in half and hickman confirms this)

yeah Team 2 for a solid majority... because of current Black Panther...

@don_quixote:

@reaverlation said:

Batman and Constantine Drakon vs Black Panther and Daredevil

Setting:In downtown LA. Streets are unpopulated. Start 50ft apart

Rules:

Morals off

K.O. or Death ftw

Current 616

Pre/New 52 Batman

Pre 52 Drakon

H2H only. No weapons or gadgets.Wearing current suit/armor/clothing. H2H ONLY!

i believe it is indeed mentioned twice in the OP... the trick is you have to read it

@kidman560: Cases can be made for Team 1.In fact people gave said Team 1 wins.Maybe debate with them

@reaverlation: absolutly cases can be made for team 1 im not denying that (drakon is an insane monster) ... im saying that Black Panther here gives team 2 the majority...

@kidman560: Batman also has an armor.

I don't see how BP's armor makes him solo this.I agree he is the definitive factor in this match,but he doesn't solo at all.

well i said his Vibranium Armor would let him solo... and again i stated why... he was able to tank blows from Namor and the Hulk and was fine

As I said, Deathstroke has tanked blows from Lobo and Cap has tanked blows from Iron Man, Hulk without being KOed.

Lobo clone* im sure you meant to add that but forgot... Cap has an insane healing factor that let him heal quickly after being hit... its one of his most over looked abilities... its also what makes Cap so dangerous... but BP tanked them exceptionally well

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BP, who was holding back, tanked and beat a Blood Lusted Iron Fist

one hit from Iron Fist is like being hit with a freight train... BP took a large number of these... his Vibranium Suit is insane

This isn't Hulk or Namor. This is Iron Fist. Huge strength difference.

BP wasn't holding back at all.Where did you get that?

The Lobo clone was as strong as Lobo,which makes him way stronger than Namor,even Hulk.

Wolverine is also hit by Hulk multiple times without being KOed. He also wouldn't take Batman and Drakon together.

Your arguements is weak at best.

Batman and Drakon have more ways to take T'Challa out if they work together. The don't have to KO him. They could choke him with a hold or something.

@don_quixote: oh im sorry you wanted Hulk and Namor ok

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I threw in Phoenix Namor for the lolz

Wolverine is not as fast as Black Panther... his durability comes from his healing factor and him having unbreakable bones.. BPs comes from having a suit designed to absorb Energy... including but not limited to Kinetic, Heat, Electricity, Magic (well actually thats just special wakanda stuff), sound waves, ect...

@kidman560 said:

@don_quixote: oh im sorry you wanted Hulk and Namor ok

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I threw in Phoenix Namor for the lolz

Wolverine is not as fast as Black Panther... his durability comes from his healing factor and him having unbreakable bones.. BPs comes from having a suit designed to absorb Energy... including but not limited to Kinetic, Heat, Electricity, Magic (well actually thats just special wakanda stuff), sound waves, ect...

Wolverine is as fast as Black Panther indeed. And his durability wasn't enough for him not to be taken down by much less than Batman and Drakon combined.

Then why hasn't Black Panther been able to beat Daredevil or Captain America and just stalemating them? Why was Sabretooth able to get an upper hand in their fight? Not saying Sabretooth would beat him, but it's a low showing when it comes to facing two of the best DC martial artists.

@don_quixote: hold on second here

scratch off Wolverine

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he had spider man dead to rights here

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Captain America

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this skrull is loaded with the best of Marvels H2H fighters including Black Panther... but BP also can read body language for Tellls

so too answer your question he already has beaten everybody... theres no one left for him to beat on Marvel Earth (you saw the bloodlusted Iron Fist ones right)