Agamotto Vs Zero Hour Parallax

Step 7: The 'small' feat as you put it off creating the Pocket Universe: Lets remember as well that Pocket Superboy and Matrix Supergirl both spawned from here.
 

PREPARE YOURSELF TO BE STOMPED THAT'S WHAT YOU RECIEVE FROM TALKING ABOUT STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.
1I never said that2.It was pre-crisis which later retcon to be the controller .

 
So you basiccally Accept that he's an abstract ? 2.make no different we clearly see Entropy rift destroy everything

 
Stop making the things up.He did that by slice a fraction of time out of the timestream
Again stop making the things up.It's post-crisis  and yes It's that one.If you can't read it then go to my gallery.   You don't even realize that  Two of his feats you refered to are the same one So I  don't  understand  why I Should Debate at all Besides Hal become spectre in DoJ and depart in GL:rebirth That's  Before IC  Learn TT more?don't make me laugh the post alone make me sure that you got all that from wikipedia and the vine which,Ironically some of them was edited by me.If you don't know What you're talking about,then leave.

Step 7: The 'small' feat as you put it off creating the Pocket Universe: Lets remember as well that Pocket Superboy and Matrix Supergirl both spawned from here.
 

 
Step 8: Scan speaks for it's self: 
 

Step 9: Another durability feat that he came out from unscathed.
 

  
Step 10:  He can affect the Multi-verse like when he plucked Superboy Prime out and became him in that time line and the parallel universes as stated in LO3W:

 
 
Step 11: Now you have even started to see the error of your ways and admit he is an Abstract entity in admitting his connection to Entrophy here is a further point on it at the bottom: 
 

 
Step 12 : Almost destroying reality over the years and destroying Legions era and restarting it without breaking a sweat: 

@TheFallenOne:  
 
Oh lawdy you just don't know when your out of your depth do you? 
  
I was going to bring my pimp out on you in the  Majestros vs Superman thread but it looks like this thead is as good as any to do it and I'm going to have to enroll you in the ''DR AMS'S: 12 STEP SELF HELP AND DETOX PROGRAMME FOR FANBOIS, TROLLS AND OUT OF THEIR DEPTH BATTLE DEBATERS'' right now for your own good.  
 
 Part One of the 12 step program to cure your delusions. 
  
Step 1: The guy Darkseid absorbed wasn't even the real Time Trapper, Also the real TT survived COIE unharmed or affected in anyway and can hand out immortality. 
 
    

 
Step 2:  TT existed as soon as Time it's self began: 
      

  
Step 3: Parallax ''killing'' him the first time that he easily came back from now the key word here is ''ENTROPY'': 

 
Step 4: Sorry what was that you said? He can't do things under his own power and can only manipulate the time stream?  Here is making two of the strongest beings in DC brick their pants. 
 

 + To give you a scale of TT's power here in throwing Dead Suns about the Universe is the near the end of that issue:  

  
Step 5: Making Pre Crisis Superman look weak and helpless,  something YOU especially might want to take into account, especially as you love to bring up modern Superman turning Mageddon's gears as a yard stick of higher strength feat in the Majestic thread. P.S. If you don't know how Superman get's back to his own time and de-ages himself at the end of the issue I will tell you if you want to know but it in no way discredits this feat: 
   

 
Step 6 : Just incase after all this you think he can only affect the past timelines here he is pulling multiple legionaries into the future against their at will like Childsplay. 

@war of light_2814 said:

PREPARE YOURSELF TO BE STOMPED THAT'S WHAT YOU RECIEVE FROM TALKING ABOUT STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.
1I never said that2.It was pre-crisis which later retcon to be the controller .

 
So you basiccally Accept that he's an abstract ? 2.make no different we clearly see Entropy rift destroy everything

 
Stop making the things up.He did that by slice a fraction of time out of the timestream
Again stop making the things up.It's post-crisis  and yes It's that one.If you can't read it then go to my gallery.   You don't even realize that  Two of his feats you refered to are the same one So I  don't  understand  why I Should Debate at all Besides Hal become spectre in DoJ and depart in GL:rebirth That's  Before IC  Learn TT more?don't make me laugh the post alone make me sure that you got all that from wikipedia and the vine which,Ironically some of them was edited by me.If you don't know What you're talking about,then leave.

Haha. Cry out loud as much as you want fanboy. You can't prove anything. But let me explain several thing to you. 
 

 
First of all if someone has corporeal body that means that he can't be abstract. ABSTRACT = NON-CORPOREAL. SO TROLL THIS IS2 A BIG FAIL !!! 
 
And it was never stated that TT is abstract - SO YOU'RE MAKING THINGS UP !!!

@TheFallenOne

 
So far the only one making things up is you. You were lying that TT has taken universe out of Timestream. And facts are totaly different than your FAN FICTION. He only removed one timeline from Timestream, and that for sure isn't = as removing the universe. It can't be done since Timestream is where are all different timeline of said universe (past, present and future) 
 

 
1And about Odin part.  1Odin has far more feats on universal level than TT, PC Darkseid and Mordru combined. Wait they don't even have anything on universal level. My bad :-)) .2 TT regular feats consist of battleing and usually losing to Legion of Heroes in 30th century. And Odin could destroy them with flick of the finger. Odin always fights with skyfather and above enemies. 
 
3SO FAR THE ONLY THING YOU PROVED WITH YOUR POST IS THAT YOU'RE A LIAR AND TROLL. 4SINCE YOU WERE SPAMING THIS THREAD WITH TOTALY OF - TOPIC THINGS. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND BE GONE !!!

@TheFallenOne said:

@war of light_2814 said:

PREPARE YOURSELF TO BE STOMPED THAT'S WHAT YOU RECIEVE FROM TALKING ABOUT STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.
1I never said that2.It was pre-crisis which later retcon to be the controller .

 
So you basiccally Accept that he's an abstract ? 2.make no different we clearly see Entropy rift destroy everything

 
Stop making the things up.He did that by slice a fraction of time out of the timestream
Again stop making the things up.It's post-crisis  and yes It's that one.If you can't read it then go to my gallery.   You don't even realize that  Two of his feats you refered to are the same one So I  don't  understand  why I Should Debate at all Besides Hal become spectre in DoJ and depart in GL:rebirth That's  Before IC  Learn TT more?don't make me laugh the post alone make me sure that you got all that from wikipedia and the vine which,Ironically some of them was edited by me.If you don't know What you're talking about,then leave.

Haha. Cry out loud as much as you want fanboy. You can't prove anything. But let me explain several thing to you. 
 
First of all if someone has corporeal body that means that he can't be abstract. ABSTRACT = NON-CORPOREAL. SO TROLL THIS IS A BIG FAIL !!! 
 
And it was never stated that TT is abstract - SO YOU'RE MAKING THINGS UP !!! 
 

If he represent of some concept then he's an abstract plain and simple . Remember the word embodiment
@TheFallenOne said:

@war of light_2814 said:

PREPARE YOURSELF TO BE STOMPED THAT'S WHAT YOU RECIEVE FROM TALKING ABOUT STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.
1I never said that2.It was pre-crisis which later retcon to be the controller .

 
So you basiccally Accept that he's an abstract ? 2.make no different we clearly see Entropy rift destroy everything

 
Stop making the things up.He did that by slice a fraction of time out of the timestream
Again stop making the things up.It's post-crisis  and yes It's that one.If you can't read it then go to my gallery.   You don't even realize that  Two of his feats you refered to are the same one So I  don't  understand  why I Should Debate at all Besides Hal become spectre in DoJ and depart in GL:rebirth That's  Before IC  Learn TT more?don't make me laugh the post alone make me sure that you got all that from wikipedia and the vine which,Ironically some of them was edited by me.If you don't know What you're talking about,then leave.

Haha. Cry out loud as much as you want fanboy. You can't prove anything. But let me explain several thing to you. 
 
First of all if someone has corporeal body that means that he can't be abstract. ABSTRACT = NON-CORPOREAL. SO TROLL THIS IS A BIG FAIL !!! 
 
And it was never stated that TT is abstract - SO YOU'RE MAKING THINGS UP !!! 
 
So far the only one making things up is you. You were lying that TT has taken universe out of Timestream. And facts are totaly different than your FAN FICTION. He only removed one timeline from Timestream, and that for sure isn't = as removing the universe. It can't be done since Timestream is where are all different timeline of said universe (past, present and future) 
 

First of all it isn't Timeline It's fraction of time second it is clearly state that That  the fraction of time contain entire as much planet and stars at the real Universe hence why I call it universe I what about other parts Did I just own you,fail one?

@TheFallenOne: Some body just got own.

@war of light_2814 said:

@TheFallenOne: Some body just got own.

Yep you're the one that got owned. Like I said learn to type it's somebody not SOME BODY. So far you have only proven that you deny things you don't like (in case of Odin). You haven't made any good point in order for me to analyze it and you were just overhyping feats and lying. And you flagged me for saying the truth !? Poor kid get outside a little bit. Anyway i return the favor since two of your most recent posts were clear atempts of provoking and spaming and there is no adressing to that just flagging.

• Athena
• Itzamna
• Osiris sometimes shown to be Horus
• Dagda - Decent feats out of the bunch
• Manitou
• Svarog
• Tezcatlipoca
• Hodiak 
• Anu   
• Ahura Mazda 
• Altjira 
• Buluku 
• Vishnu 
• Izanagi 
• Yu Huang 
• Tame 
• Ukko 
• Ulgen 
• Viracocha - 2nd Decent out of the bunch

@TheFallenOne:  
  
Whooooooooooooosh reeled you in Hook Line And Sinker son!  
 
I know it's ZH Time Trapper we are talking about please don't disrespect my intelligence by saying it's on your level, every move and scan was picked for a certain reason to be explained: 
 
'' This is another SELF-OWNAGE. This step actually confirms that TT can't be abstract since scan states that he is corporeal embodiment of entropy. And corporeal =/= abstract.'' 
'' First of all if someone has corporeal body that means that he can't be abstract. ABSTRACT = NON-CORPOREAL. SO TROLL THIS IS A BIG FAIL !!!'' 
 

 

  

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
   

 Oh lawdy that looks like a lot of  corporeal embodiments of abstracts to me and oh look one just got destroyed.....  
 
''- Haha step 9 ... Thor and Superman (post crisis) have far better durability feats than this. And note the words STAR  FAINTLY BURNING = star at the brink of becoming dead '' 
 
Funny you should say that.... 
 
 

 Yeah i'm sure Athena with her Class 40 strength max would really survive that...... 
 
Want me to pull out the other stompings from Legion and Superboy also Pre Crisis at that that TT laughed off?
 
You think that i'm stupid for posting post ZH scans and moan and try to discredit the kind of logic I use yet forget to contemplate the basics;  
 
If TT is a Universal threat to the legion, survived the COIE and the end of the Multiverse without any trouble, Is already credited as the Corporeal Embodiment Of Entrophy, has existed since Time in the universe began, Created the Pocket Dimenson and pulled out Pre Crisis Characters that continued to operate in the modern universe, Can still bend and manipulate time in the now single universe at his will like before, can choose to make anyone male or female from any time line in the Universe his dupe. Gave Extant trouble and helped overthrow his plans for taking over multiple time lines, Had to be killed by Parallax so he could start Zero Hour, Then to Post ZH admit that he has infinite pockets of time and call infinite number of Legions. Then Post Multiverse being brought back is now revealed to have access to all parallel universes in the multiverse to manipulate. 
 
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM doesn't it not seem like no matter what happens on a universal scale of their only being one universe or the Multi-verse that he has always been one of the most powerful characters regardless.  The fact is show me all of the Skyfathers replicating these feats TT, oh wait you can't only ODIN outclasses them convincing way.
 
And I've been a member of KMC, CBR and other sites for years so what's the problem if I used a few scans that I asked permission to use crybaby? I've got the almost the whole legion run in Black and White showcase volumes, Archives, Floppies, Hardcovers, Softcovers. I'm here to stay pal with plenty of scans still to come once you make up your feeble comeback. I haven't even started poking holes in your feeble knowledge of Agamotto yet LOL.
 
They where at hand to set up a point and they are posted in the way they are because I know how predictable out of their depth fanbois like you are and i've set you up for the hook line and sinker from my first post but errrrr thanks for the running commentary on what I already know. 
 
Again crying about Odin does NOTHING to improve your case lmao. 
 
Show us Odin level feats for these: 

• Athena
• Itzamna
• Osiris sometimes shown to be Horus
• Dagda - Decent feats out of the bunch
• Manitou
• Svarog
• Tezcatlipoca
• Hodiak 
• Anu   
• Ahura Mazda 
• Altjira 
• Buluku 
• Vishnu 
• Izanagi 
• Yu Huang 
• Tame 
• Ukko 
• Ulgen 
• Viracocha - 2nd Decent out of the bunch

 

But what was it you said? ''Time Trapper isn't even Skyfather level'' oh snappppppppppppppppp well it looks like those stupid out of context scans that I don't even understand what's going on in them show that Time Trapper > The majority of Marvel Skyfathers. 

 
Now tell us all crybabyone are Odin and Zeus the only Skyfathers in Marvel? Do those others not exist? Are they not Skyfathers.  So who has been lying this whole time little troll? Do you want me to quote your own words again and again?
 
Admit it, even if Time Trapper isn't a true abstract in your own words, TT clearly has abstract level powers. 
 
Also hypocrite, you cry and moan when other people ridicule your scans with you claiming they might be ''low showings'' but still count but yet try and debase my scans LOL.  
 
I mean all your talk about Odin, want me to pull this out on your crybaby? 
 
 http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Golden_Apples_of_Idunn/Appearances
http://marvel.com/universe/Idunn   Watch you cry oh boo hoo it doesn't matter if Odin is not truly Immortal.....   Your whole trying to downplay Time Trapper and what it meant for Parrallax to destroy him has backfired on you.  Once i've finished sparring with you in here I'm going to come destroy you in the Majestic Vs Superman thread, I've been content to sit and watch Buckshot rip you a new one but you better hope for your sake you have more than those few scans at your disposal.

ZH parallax beat spectre!! and recreate the multiverse!! 
agamotto stalemate pussy galactus... wow. 
parallax takes this.

Who cares?It' Time Trapper Not Timetrapper.Who strart spamming?who's the one who bring Odin in?who's the one that response me wth meaningless post you can't address my point So you said learn how to type that's spamming.
I Bring trapper here because Parallax defeat him That's feat for Parallax so it's not spamming because it's something that could take for consideration to justify Parallax's level of Power UnlikeLearn how to typeLastly,learn to speak of truth and discuss in  a mature way.

You started first. OWW You can't even address to 80% of my post.Lalalalala - those are your words and they for sure aren't mature. Also that's clear atempt of provocation. 
 
And who started first with all of this. Again you PREPARE YOURSELF TO BE STOMPED THAT'S WHAT YOU RECIEVE FROM TALKING ABOUT STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING OF - your words. 

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO DISCUSS IN MATURE WAY ! 

@war of light_2814 said:

Who cares?It' Time Trapper Not Timetrapper.Who strart spamming?who's the one who bring Odin in?who's the one that response me wth meaningless post you can't address my point So you said learn how to type that's spamming.
I Bring trapper here because Parallax defeat him That's feat for Parallax so it's not spamming because it's something that could take for consideration to justify Parallax's level of Power UnlikeLearn how to typeLastly,learn to speak of truth and discuss in  a mature way.

You started first. OWW You can't even address to 80% of my post.Lalalalala - those are your words and they for sure aren't mature. Also that's clear atempt of provocation. 
 
And who started first with all of this. Again you PREPARE YOURSELF TO BE STOMPED THAT'S WHAT YOU RECIEVE FROM TALKING ABOUT STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING OF - your words. 

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO DISCUSS IN MATURE WAY ! 

@TheFallenOne said:

 

Excuse me.where's Haha. Cry out loud as much as you want fanboy. You can't prove anything. But let me explain several thing to you.  ?
and Warning is not an insults or immature act (since your clearly know not what You're talking about)Throwing insults Is.

 

@war of light_2814 said:

@TheFallenOne said:

 

Excuse me.where's Haha. Cry out loud as much as you want fanboy. You can't prove anything. But let me explain several thing to you.  ?
and Warning is not an insults or immature act (since your clearly know not what You're talking about)Throwing insults Is.

 

That came after your PREPARE sentance.  I know not what i'm talking about !? Well not knowing what talking about is your problem buddy. Anyway i don't intend on keep arguing with you who started first.

@AMS said:

1Hahaha what pathetic post !!! 2All those scans you posted about marvel Cosmic Entites and non of the scan you posted contains word CORPOREAL. Only CONCEPTUAL. CONCEPTUAL =/=CORPOREAL. The amount of failure in this post is beyound any words to decribe !!! You're the definition of FAIL buddy !!! Ask every user you want and he/she will tell you that you're FAIL !!!

@TheFallenOne said:

@AMS said:

1Hahaha what pathetic post !!! 2All those scans you posted about marvel Cosmic Entites and non of the scan you posted contains word CORPOREAL. Only CONCEPTUAL. CONCEPTUAL =/=CORPOREAL. The amount of failure in this post is beyound any words to decribe !!! You're the definition of FAIL buddy !!! Ask every user you want and he/she will tell you that you're FAIL !!!

1.another example of immature2all you do is play semantics you can't argue with vast majority of his post for someone who involved with vast 
battle thread that contain cosmic characters you should know know that our term of Abstract(being) is reference to beings who represent  concept and he's just prove that those beings can be portray as corporeal.

@TheFallenOne: You totally owned in this Forum.  I have been reading all of the arguments. I have to say you know your stuff. Kudos.
@demifiend: You have posted the same stance about 3 or 4 times, stop trolling. Beyond your statement that Parallax wins you haven't stated any argument otherwise just the same stance over and over.  People know where you stand on the issue move along.

@TheFallenOne: You totally owned in this Forum.  I have been reading all of the arguments. I have to say you know your stuff. Kudos. 
 
 
 
Thanks mate !!!

@demifiend: I don't need to weigh in on this fight, TheFallenOne has made the best argument here. But then again you aren't really weighing in on the fight either, not in any real way but keep posting the same thing over and over and over again, making your point more irrelevant than the first time you posted it. If you are going to take a side you should at least join the conversation but you don't.

TT>>>>>>>>>>>marvel skyfathers combined

@demifiend: it's interesting you, you actually taking the time to defend yourself now and attempt to push me into this debate when you refused to participate in it yourself. It's very hypocritical of you.  I'm don't have an opinion simply because I don't really know much about both characters although I learned a lot about Parallax, due to TheFallenOne (to which you have to give credit where credit is due) The only knownledge i have of Agamotto is limited to his fight with Galactus, and the fact that all sorcerer supreme use his eye.  So in short i don't have enough information to be on one side or the other.  But you have firmly picked a side, and haven't defended it only trolled the same statement in different wording on pretty every page, not even attempting to expand on why you think the way you do, or depend it from theFallenOne argument.

Sorry you guys had to deal with that, I am on the case.

Sorry you guys had to deal with that, I am on the case.

@demifiend: Don't quote in future, I had to remove your posts as well as it still contained his original post, just flag and ignore, don't feed them

Really lol it's not exacatly hard. 
 
The 'Abstract' Death couldn't bring it's self back from ''death'' under it's own power after it's Corporeal Embodiment was 'destroyed', Entropy's Corporeal Embodiment did bring it's self back from Entropy after being 'destroyed'. 
 
QED.  Entropy > Death.
 
There goes the neighbourhood, at the very least Time Trapper has abstract level powers/ is an abstract.
  
AMS scores the touchdown.  
 
FailingOne this is just the start of your whooping boy.
 

@war of light_2814 said:

@TheFallenOne said:

@AMS said:

1Hahaha what pathetic post !!! 2All those scans you posted about marvel Cosmic Entites and non of the scan you posted contains word CORPOREAL. Only CONCEPTUAL. CONCEPTUAL =/=CORPOREAL. The amount of failure in this post is beyound any words to decribe !!! You're the definition of FAIL buddy !!! Ask every user you want and he/she will tell you that you're FAIL !!!

1.another example of immature2all you do is play semantics you can't argue with vast majority of his post for someone who involved with vast 
battle thread that contain cosmic characters you should know know that our term of Abstract(being) is reference to beings who represent  concept and he's just prove that those beings can be portray as corporeal.

He just spams this thread with pointless scans. And what both of you were doing so far is representing TT as abstract level - Galactus Eternity level. 
 

Furthere Abstracts in Marvel don't have physical body like TT. 2TT is corporeal. Also Entropy isn't concept. Entropy is basilcy a measurement ofr energy which can't ve transformed into work. On the other hand chaos, order, love, hate ... those are all concepts. 
 

1.so TT can't be abstract in nature nor2 can be abstract in power.  Now if you question why i posted all of this -since it has nothing to do with actual comics, 3well point is that both you and AMS claimed that TT is abstract, and such thing was never stated in comics nor in handbooks. That was your speculation which i disaproved.

 
He survived Entropy Rift because

 he is corporeal embodiment of Entropy itself, 

not because he has universal durability. Further Entropy Rifts, that were used by Extant in Zero Hour, to delete timelines were not universe busters. Entropy rifts were just deleting timelines. Plus Entropy Rift that seamingly killed TT happened in the timeline - which was DCU at the end of time. Basicly that timeline wasn't deleted since there was no time to delete, and that's how ZH Parallax entered the Timestream.  
 

Really lol it's not exacatly hard. 
 
The 'Abstract' Death couldn't bring it's self back from ''death'' under it's own power after it's Corporeal Embodiment was 'destroyed', Entropy's Corporeal Embodiment did bring it's self back from Entropy after being 'destroyed'. 
 
QED.  Entropy > Death.
 
There goes the neighbourhood, at the very least Time Trapper has abstract level powers/ is an abstract.
  
AMS scores the touchdown.  
 
FailingOne this is just the start of your whooping boy.
 

@blacharrt said:

@demifiend: it's interesting you, you actually taking the time to defend yourself now and attempt to push me into this debate when you refused to participate in it yourself. It's very hypocritical of you.  I'm don't have an opinion simply because I don't really know much about both characters although I learned a lot about Parallax, due to TheFallenOne (to which you have to give credit where credit is due) The only knownledge i have of Agamotto is limited to his fight with Galactus, and the fact that all sorcerer supreme use his eye.  So in short i don't have enough information to be on one side or the other.  But you have firmly picked a side, and haven't defended it only trolled the same statement in different wording on pretty every page, not even attempting to expand on why you think the way you do, or depend it from theFallenOne argument.

ok, but i havent see a agamotto feat above recreating multiverse or beating spectre, you see. thats why i dont post a lot here. if you see my posts in other threads i ussually do that, im not going to debate when im pretty sure what im talking about.  :).  

First of all, Parallax never recreated the multiverse. During Zero Hour there was only one universe - original multiverse was destroyed in COIE. Parallax only atempted to recreate the universe in his image, but he ultimately failed to do so. And he couldn't do it until Gurardians told him how to restart the universe. So his feat is not as nearly as impressive as you represent it . 
 
Second, beating Spectre has nothing to do with winning this match (but it seems that you fail to realize that) 

Third the only one trolling here so far is you (exluding other parties). Not me or blacharrt. So i suggest that you watch your mouth a little bit. It doesn't matter if you're girl you're still gonna get flagged.  
 
Fourth since you have no knowledge on both Parallax(and pick him because he is DC character) and Agamotto i suggest taking blacharrt advice. 
 

@AMS said:

Really lol it's not exacatly hard. 
 
The 'Abstract' Death couldn't bring it's self back from ''death'' under it's own power after it's Corporeal Embodiment was 'destroyed', Entropy's Corporeal Embodiment did bring it's self back from Entropy after being 'destroyed'. 
 
QED.  Entropy > Death.
 
There goes the neighbourhood, at the very least Time Trapper has abstract level powers/ is an abstract.
  
AMS scores the touchdown.  
 
FailingOne this is just the start of your whooping boy.
 

Again meaningles post. And that little entertain you atempted to have with that new acount idiotslayer didn't end up as you planed. Don't worry you'll get banned pretty soon yourself. You even attacked user blacharrt who didn't, even reply to you, just becuase he backed me up ? Well your action just prove that you're one really desperate emo. Get a life ! 
 
Anyway on the side note so far you were just spaming this thread with meaningless posts. Face it you're unable to make a valid point !!!

  Also Entropy isn't concept. Entropy is basilcy a measurement ofr energy which can't ve transformed into work. On the other hand chaos, order, love, hate ... those are all concepts. 
 
There exist concept of entropy. The concept of entropy is defined phenomenologically by the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of an isolated system always increases or remains constant - copied from wikipedia. Or you can google for concept of entropy.  Anyway this only proves that Entropy as itself isn't concept - so TT can't be abstract in nature nor can be abstract in power.  Now if you question why i posted all of this -since it has nothing to do with actual comics, well point is that both you and AMS claimed that TT is abstract, and such thing was never stated in comics nor in handbooks. That was your speculation which i disaproved.

My friend said parallax because blah,blah,ultimate entity (lol I know right?),blah,blah one shot superman blah,blah,blah.

@utotheg38 said:

@Boobster: Ok, I respect you're opinion but can you please explain, Thanks.

He had the power to rewrite the history of entire timelines of DC universe. I think it was because of him why Doomsday was brought back since he was in the Entropy, where the universe die.

@TheFallenOne said:

   
 
Wikipedia backfired you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fundamental_physics_concepts

1.I'm glad you finally calm down and stop insulting. 

Nope,at I state it isn't pointless. And stop call others spaming beacause you can't find better argument.
 

I don't care what Entropy is in scientifical meaning.Entropy  is concept .2.TT can be non-corpereal
1.he is 
2.and again he is 
3.Oh, come on man You'r the one who bring TT being entropy Idea in the very first place and Never state in handbook?that scan come from Who's who That's closest thing DC has to handbook.and you never Disprove it . Stop playing semantics you know what it is.
you claim change all the time and contradict in itself. 

 

If he represent of something like this then he's abstract plain and simple it isn't hard to understand.

@AtheneOwnsYou:   lol its nice to see how that guy fallenone is crazy trying to prove how agamotto wins, in any case he still fails.   so much hostility around here! lol

@demifiend said:

@AtheneOwnsYou:   lol its nice to see how that guy fallenone is crazy trying to prove how agamotto wins, in any case he still fails.   so much hostility around here! lol

Girl don't spam this thread. You're unable to make any point so either don't participate in this debate (just watch) or be gone !

when you have a better feat than beating spectre come back. ;) meanwhile you are wasting our precious time. 

Guys, keep this civil…if you don't stop insulting each other I'm going to lock up this thread.

This is supposed to be a debate, not a flame war.

@war of light_2814 said:

@TheFallenOne said:

   
 
Wikipedia backfired you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fundamental_physics_concepts

 
 
 Haha. No you backfired yourself. You failed to realize that Entropy to which you refered is actually assemblage(category) of every page containing entropy which has to do something with physics. This includes thermodynamic entropy (who's part classical thermodynamical entropy we use in this debate), entropy in computer science and information tech, many hypotheisis about entropy (both thermodynamical and comp. science) ... 
 
We use here classical thermodynamical entropy, and from that page i did copy - paste - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(classical_thermodynamics) 
 
Anyway you said that you don't care what's Entropy's scietifical meaning. Dude you are trying to make me look funny, but you only made yourself look funny

 
 
@war of light_2814

said:

1.I'm glad you finally calm down and stop insulting. 

Nope,at I state it isn't pointless. And stop call others spaming beacause you can't find better argument.
 

I don't care what Entropy is in scientifical meaning.Entropy  is concept .2.TT can be non-corpereal
1.he is 
2.and again he is 
3.Oh, come on man You'r the one who bring TT being entropy Idea in the very first place and Never state in handbook?that scan come from Who's who That's closest thing DC has to handbook.and you never Disprove it . Stop playing semantics you know what it is.
you claim change all the time and contradict in itself. 

 

If he represent of something like this then he's abstract plain and simple it isn't hard to understand.

You just won't except the truth. Don't well deny it as much as you want but you're wrong. It wasn't stated that TT is Abstract so therefore he isn't. You can deny thing about entropy(thermodynamical) as much as you want, but you want change anything. Also TT has never appeared in non-corporeal form. Who's who only stated that he is embodiment of Entropy and not abstract being.

There are many characters in fiction which were titled as embodiments of destruction (for example Doomsday) but they have nothing abstract in their being - and are just physical super strong beings( again Doomsday for example). So you're logic is wrong. 
 

@TheFallenOne

I can'r find better argument than AMS !? Don't make me laugh. You just back him up because,( just like you) he is against me in this debate. And guy didn't make any point at all. He doesn't know the difference between Pre Zero Hour and Post Zero Hour Time Trapper and i suppose to take him serious about Time Trapper !? Not to mention that he just post random scans and spams this thread with stupidity.