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Best Battles in New Comics: 8/15/14

Check out awesome action scenes from the latest issues of ORIGINAL SIN, CAPTAIN AMERICA, and TMNT.

From Batgirl attacking Jason Todd to Punisher taking on Ghost Rider, the latest round of new comics dished out a ton of action scenes. We all have our favorites, but after reviewing the wide variety of battles, we've decided to highlight two brawls from Marvel and one melee from IDW. As always, you're welcome to praise your top battle from this week's new comics in the comments below.

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ORIGINAL SIN #7

Marvel's latest big event, ORIGINAL SIN, is almost over and writer Jason Aaron, artist Mike Deodato Jr, and colorist Frank Martin Jr's latest chapter is full of glorious action as Nick Fury -- armed to the teeth with alien tech -- takes on some of the publisher's biggest heroes. The location puts several of the heroes at a disadvantage -- especially when Fury's shooting at them like a mad man -- but even though the classic character has a sharp mind and impressive tech, he's quite outnumbered and it isn't long before they're able to get close and personal. But despite having Fury surrounded and restrained, they're unable to take him down and Fury frees himself with ease.

Few can withstand the might of Nick Fury's backhand.
Few can withstand the might of Nick Fury's backhand.

The tactical spy is embarrassing Earth's mightiest heroes, but he's yet to face Captain America! Now that he's literally swatted the others aside, the super-soldier takes action and attempts to reason with Fury. But this is nearing the conclusion of a big event! The time for reason has passed and now is the time for excitement, buildup, and big reveals. So, obviously a few words are exchanged and one heck of a punch is delivered. You didn't really expect them to solve this one without some punches, did you?

Mike Deodato's so kind to our eyes.
Mike Deodato's so kind to our eyes.

Let's take a moment to gaze at Deodato Jr and Martin Jr's panels. Not only is the setting a gorgeous sight to behold (you can really appreciate Fury's remark about the view), but, as expected, the character work is impressively detailed and packed with intensity. A big event should feel epic and these visuals definitely deliver on providing a stunning atmosphere. Now, let's get back to the fight. Hulk has been shot to the moon, many Avengers were smacked aside, and Cap took a vicious right hook. However, Fury isn't the only brilliant leader in this battle. Steve Rogers has a back-up plan: Thor. If Fury can't be reasoned with, he'll be smashed by the Son of Odin until he no longer poses a threat.

"Have at thee, old astronaut Fury!"

You know how people often joke that Batman can accomplish anything "because he's Batman"? Well, after this issue, we should probably start saying "because he's Nick Fury." Seriously, not only was he able to hold his own physically (against some, that is), but with just his words, he's able to humiliate two other very powerful Avengers. It's looking like "Nick Fury always win" may also be an appropriate saying! Seeing as this tale is written by Aaron -- the writer of THOR: GOD OF THUNDER -- you can bet it connects to the big changes that are heading to Thor's world. You can read more about that here.

CAPTAIN AMERICA #23

Steve Rogers survived Dimension Z, but a heavily armored and very skilled character from that world has come to 616 Earth and is looking for the iconic hero. Seeing as Rogers' super-soldier serum has been removed from him, his formidable friends step up to the plate in an attempt to prevent this individual from finding his target. After this mysterious character bypasses the Avengers Mansion's security, he effortlessly gets past Iron Man, too. Needless to say, writer Rick Remender is going above and beyond to show off this character's high level of skill. But how will this unknown being perform when he bumps into the God of Thunder?

It has been a rough week for Thor fans.
It has been a rough week for Thor fans.

Okay, apparently not even Thor was all that much of an obstacle for this dude from another dimension. Don't get too disappointed, Thor fans, because this combatant then encounters Iron Man a second time and once again makes him look like a total joke. Tony Stark fires multiple repulsor blasts but doesn't even scratch the guy. To make matters even more embarrassing, the graceful character politely taunts Iron Man as he exits the scene!

Looks like Stark needs to ask Hawkeye for some accuracy training.
Looks like Stark needs to ask Hawkeye for some accuracy training.

So, this nimble fellow has effortlessly eluded Iron Man twice and had no problem dancing around Thor's attacks and kicking him in the back of the head, but what about when he bumps into Hulk, the strongest one there is? Will the Green Goliath be the one to finally get his hands on this opponent and knock his lights out? Short answer: nope.

"HULK SWING AND MISS!"

Who is this character and why is he after Rogers? And what'll happen if he manages to reach the Avenger? If you've been following along, the answer to the first question is probably obvious, but the rest of the issue isn't about the reveal -- it's about what the reveal means and where they go from there. Oh, and seeing as you're likely a fellow action junkie, it's worth noting that the issue's battles aren't limited to just this scene in Avengers Mansion!

TMNT #37

The relationship between the Foot Clan and General Krang hasn't exactly been friendly (see SECRET HISTORY OF THE FOOT CLAN for more details) and tension continues to rise between these two sides. Hoping for a peaceful solution to this problem, Oroku Saki, a.k.a. Shredder, meets the alien and offers an alliance. The Utrom, however, has no interest in joining forces and takes the already heated dialogue in a violent direction. The alien underestimated his enemy, though, and Saki was prepared for the alien to attack. The Shredder attempts to flee, but his helicopter is shot down by Krang. The odds appear to be heavily stacked against the leader of the Foot clan, but Saki has lived for hundreds of years and is certainly no fool. He prepared for multiple scenarios and two of his mutated allies, Koya and Bludgeon, show up the to the scene and savagely assault Krang's forces. As the mutants and gunmen go at it, the two villainous leaders prepare to clash.

Are you on team Shredder or team Krang?
Are you on team Shredder or team Krang?

Technological might or praiseworthy skill? Will Krang's sheer strength and firepower prove to be more useful than Saki's graceful nature and talent with a blade? Writer Tom Waltz crafts a battle that gives both characters proper credit and the way artist Cory Smith and colorist Ronda Pattison bring it all to life is a ton of fun. To make matters even more appealing, we get to chime in on their minions going at it and it's all kind of hectic. We won't spoil how it all concludes, of course, but we will say the mutants are off to a strong start. Their leader, however, isn't as fortunate.

TMNT embraces Shark Week.
TMNT embraces Shark Week.

We left the next part out because, well, it's awesome and you need some incentive to actually buy the comic, yes? Let's just say Krang is fed up with this complication and has no problem going all out. If you've been reading the IDW series, then you know Shredder isn't just an ordinary guy and he's able to remain conscious after Krang's brutal attack. Waltz gave Krang a moment to unleash and show his formidably, so now it's time to see Oroku Saki do the same! Don't you just love a battle between villains where both a given a chance to shine and neither is downplayed?

Even if you're on team Krang, you must admit that was bossa nova.
Even if you're on team Krang, you must admit that was bossa nova.

Both have taken damage, but neither leader has fallen or refuses to quit. Shredder and Krang have joined forces or been connected in other incarnations, and it's crystal clear they're going to be anything but buddies in this universe. If the Ninja Turtles thought they were in a tough spot now, just imagine how they'll feel when they discover the two most dangerous groups are at war. How does this fight conclude, though? Well, you'll just have to read the issue to find out! It's a serviceable jumping on spot, so there's no good reason not to!

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@lvenger: You know who is the spiky guy, right?

Well no but he doesn't look above street level. His kicks didn't seem to hurt Thor, he just outmanoeuvred him with superior speed, agility and skill. I'm going to guess that it's Steve's son from Dimension Z but if it's not, feel free to correct me. It doesn't change the fact that Thor is not a fast fighter at all.

You are correct.

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wait, are you telling me captain america with no super soldier serum was faster than thor and hulk???

As an old man with no super soldier serum....I have scans in my gallery if you want to check out the whole thing.

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@Jashro44: thats so sad. Thors speed is atrocius and an embarrassment. I wish Marvel would get their heads out of their...and give him super speed like superman.

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@karazor-el said:

@Jashro44: thats so sad. Thors speed is atrocius and an embarrassment. I wish Marvel would get their heads out of their...and give him super speed like superman.

Meh he doesn't need it and how powerful a character is shouldn't affect how much you like a character. Besides the guy danced around iron man and hulk to and managed to dodge a ridiculous number of repulsor blasts from iron man. So I don't think its that terrible for thor (its pretty bad admittedly), so much as it is an awesome showing for Steve.

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@Tdk_1997: hes only human right? Man that sucks for huge thor fans. As a normal thor fan, it doesnt bother me much because its consistent and the editor in chief at marvel recently stated that he has super speed in travel but not so much in combat. Well, technically he should have said. Mjolnir is fast in travel since mjolnir is the one flying him thru space.

I don't think that he is only human. Isn't he supposed to be partly injected with the super soldier serum?


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@tdk_1997 said:

@lvenger said:

@tdk_1997 said:

@lvenger: You know who is the spiky guy, right?

Well no but he doesn't look above street level. His kicks didn't seem to hurt Thor, he just outmanoeuvred him with superior speed, agility and skill. I'm going to guess that it's Steve's son from Dimension Z but if it's not, feel free to correct me. It doesn't change the fact that Thor is not a fast fighter at all.

It indeed is him. I won't say his name because I will spoil it for the others but you guessed right. He was indeed impressive and made out of Tony and Thor big fools.

The problem is, he didn't just out-maneuver Thor, he out-maneuvered Iron Man too. Regardless, why is Thor's speed being brought up again?

It's being brought up, at least I think so, because this time he got out-maneuvered by a guy who is only human with some slight enhances and probably a dosage of the Super Soldier Serum which makes him a second Captain America. I guess Steve has out-maneuvered Thor before but for the last couple of years, Thor except in his own solo book, has been pretty much been like a punching bag for characters like Ian.

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@Jashro44: i wont stop liking thor becasue of it. Im really into spartucus, game of thrones, gladiator type of shows, characters. Thors cool. I just wish he had super combat speed.

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I didn't read the comic, only the scans above, but it doesn't look so bad for Thor to me. Thor usually doesn't get portrayed as being as fast or athletic as someone like Cap. The guy just outmaneuvered him, that's all.

Honestly I feel bad for Hulk fans. That guy doesn't ever seem to beat anyone anymore. He keeps getting introduced as such a tough guy, but then he gets beaten. It's like the old days when they wanted to introduce a new streetlevel character, and they'd have them beat Wolverine to show how tough they are. Hulk's getting beat down by Thanos, Sun God, Nick Fury...granted some of them should beat him, but still the writers put him in the fight like "we've got a Hulk," and then we see that apparently that's not such an impressive thing to have.

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I didn't read the comic, only the scans above, but it doesn't look so bad for Thor to me. Thor usually doesn't get portrayed as being as fast or athletic as someone like Cap. The guy just outmaneuvered him, that's all.

Honestly I feel bad for Hulk fans. That guy doesn't ever seem to beat anyone anymore. He keeps getting introduced as such a tough guy, but then he gets beaten. It's like the old days when they wanted to introduce a new streetlevel character, and they'd have them beat Wolverine to show how tough they are. Hulk's getting beat down by Thanos, Sun God, Nick Fury...granted some of them should beat him, but still the writers put him in the fight like "we've got a Hulk," and then we see that apparently that's not such an impressive thing to have.

If your refering to infinity hulk never lost to thanos. And from what I saw of original sin Fury did sort of beat thor by making him unworthy. I personally think thor has it worst than hulk. The sun god instance wasn't bad considering we don't know how powerful he was.

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Ian is so cool.

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Sun god was supposed to be superman right?

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@winter_kills: Dude, take a deep breath, and relax. It's not the end of the world for Thor, and he has been through much worse in the past, in comics and sadly in earlier TV adaptations. I'm going to keep reading Thor because I like the writer behind him, so I trust they'll do him justice. Also it's always nice to see a hero work their way back up. Part of what I liked about Superior Spider-man aside from the change and something new, was seeing Peter fight to get back on top and the journey he went to get there. Enjoy the ride.

Thanks dude, but I've seen a lot of my favorite characters getting dumped on lately, & Thor was the straw that broke the camel's back. I've been following Thor since the late 80s & have back issues that go farther than that. I've been with him through the good & the bad. And I like Jason Aaron as well, his stuff has been awesome up until now- I just feel it's so forced. And what pissed me off is they did it in such an offhand, humiliating way- like pants-down, spanking in the supermarket humiliation. Of the bad decisions they've made with Thor, this ranks 1, & it's a shame they did it to him on the precipice of such success. Aaron really does have his work cut out for him to fix this mess. Iconic, legendary characters that break cultural boundaries should be handled in a much better way. I'll enjoy the ride if the ONE TRUE Thor comes back as the badass, legendary warrior- the greatest warrior in the MU & all mythology- that he is truly meant to be. Screw all the imitators. There is only ONE Thor.

Do you guys remember when Thor was fast and knew how to fight ?

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Yeah I know. Good times.

THAT is how Thor is truly meant to be. When writers wrote him correctly. Even Aaron did a good job up until this point. Hopefully the circle will turn 'round again...the evidence of Thor's skill & ability is out there, spanning decades...

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@winter_kills: Marvel Comics is so focused in headlines, and diversity, that don t realize, what Thor represents to his fans, when Marvel realize s that, the character will no longer have identity and personality, and fans will not connect with him again, I m losing my faith in Marvel comics.

We still got MCU and kevin Feige does not go with this stunts.

In total agreement, brother. Thank God for the MCU & Kevin Feige & company for having the good common sense to not follow suit with these stupid decisions.

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@testament:

Oh man, I do feel for you guys. I know Thor isn't the only character to get dumped on lately. What I said above goes not just for Thor fans, but the other characters & fanbases that have been screwed over by Marvel.

Thank you, *sniff *wipes tear from eye... lol seriously though, I'm loosing a lot of respect for Marvel lately. I've always been more of a Marvel fan but it's so hard right now. First it was Daredevil with Mark Waid then they had to go and ruin my favorite superhero.. Uhhh it's alright. Batman Beyond 2.0 is just killin it right now. Best title out right now IMO

I know how you feel, man. (I actually asked myself the other day, & just why are they killing off Wolverine again? Makes no sense to me, but little Marvel does makes sense as of late comics-wise). It got to me when they mishandled Cap, then Thor- my two favorite Marvel heroes. I'm losing a lot of respect for them as well. When controversy & PR pandering is more important than good stories, the characters & the fans, it's pretty bad. It's a shame.

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@spiderman1997: Thor hasn't been like that for,what,20 years? lol

Anyway,it's odd how the same old posters always love to compare DC and Marvel at every turn. I mean,f*cking seriously. If Thor gets punched,it's "HAHA LULZ THIS CONFIRMS IT! THOR GOT HURT BY CHARACTER X,AND SUPERMAN RECENTLY SHRUGGED OFF (blank)!"

It's rather....annoying. But hey,zealots will be zealots.

15 years but you're close. Scans are from Dan Jurgens run. The guy definitely knew his stuff. In almost every issue when Thor is fighting against a powerful opponent, he would use his strength, skill and hammer's abilities to the fullest. Altough you can make the argument that fights against Gorr and Malakeith were pretty good showings as again he remembered he was absurdly strong and he crazy lightning powers.

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@spiderman1997: Thor hasn't been like that for,what,20 years? lol

Anyway,it's odd how the same old posters always love to compare DC and Marvel at every turn. I mean,f*cking seriously. If Thor gets punched,it's "HAHA LULZ THIS CONFIRMS IT! THOR GOT HURT BY CHARACTER X,AND SUPERMAN RECENTLY SHRUGGED OFF (blank)!"

It's rather....annoying. But hey,zealots will be zealots.

15 years but you're close. Scans are from Dan Jurgens run. The guy definitely knew his stuff. In almost every issue when Thor is fighting against a powerful opponent, he would use his strength, skill and hammer's abilities to the fullest. Altough you can make the argument that fights against Gorr and Malakeith were pretty good showings as again he remembered he was absurdly strong and he crazy lightning powers.

Nowadays,and especially since Bendis has touched him,it's like he's been a consistent jobber that just flies up to his opponent,swings his hammer,and gets thrown back (with the occasional lightning attack). He's hardly used his hammer's other versatile abilities. I heard with Odinforce he could amp his physical abilities,including reflexes,and if that was true,then that's great. But it's gone,in any case,so whatever.

I actually like that he's depowered now. While I love Marvel (a bit more than DC,or just as much),they love to demolish many of their A-lister characters. Now that he's depowered,it's more like he's been put out of his misery imo

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@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997: Thor hasn't been like that for,what,20 years? lol

Anyway,it's odd how the same old posters always love to compare DC and Marvel at every turn. I mean,f*cking seriously. If Thor gets punched,it's "HAHA LULZ THIS CONFIRMS IT! THOR GOT HURT BY CHARACTER X,AND SUPERMAN RECENTLY SHRUGGED OFF (blank)!"

It's rather....annoying. But hey,zealots will be zealots.

15 years but you're close. Scans are from Dan Jurgens run. The guy definitely knew his stuff. In almost every issue when Thor is fighting against a powerful opponent, he would use his strength, skill and hammer's abilities to the fullest. Altough you can make the argument that fights against Gorr and Malakeith were pretty good showings as again he remembered he was absurdly strong and he crazy lightning powers.

Nowadays,and especially since Bendis has touched him,it's like he's been a consistent jobber that just flies up to his opponent,swings his hammer,and gets thrown back (with the occasional lightning attack). He's hardly used his hammer's other versatile abilities. I heard with Odinforce he could amp his physical abilities,including reflexes,and if that was true,then that's great. But it's gone,in any case,so whatever.

I actually like that he's depowered now. While I love Marvel (a bit more than DC,or just as much),they love to demolish many of their A-lister characters. Now that he's depowered,it's more like he's been put out of his misery imo

Although I have this strange feeling that since Aaron is writing him and Mjolnir with its versatality is gone, he is going to go all Wonder Woman on people's a**es.

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@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997: Thor hasn't been like that for,what,20 years? lol

Anyway,it's odd how the same old posters always love to compare DC and Marvel at every turn. I mean,f*cking seriously. If Thor gets punched,it's "HAHA LULZ THIS CONFIRMS IT! THOR GOT HURT BY CHARACTER X,AND SUPERMAN RECENTLY SHRUGGED OFF (blank)!"

It's rather....annoying. But hey,zealots will be zealots.

15 years but you're close. Scans are from Dan Jurgens run. The guy definitely knew his stuff. In almost every issue when Thor is fighting against a powerful opponent, he would use his strength, skill and hammer's abilities to the fullest. Altough you can make the argument that fights against Gorr and Malakeith were pretty good showings as again he remembered he was absurdly strong and he crazy lightning powers.

Nowadays,and especially since Bendis has touched him,it's like he's been a consistent jobber that just flies up to his opponent,swings his hammer,and gets thrown back (with the occasional lightning attack). He's hardly used his hammer's other versatile abilities. I heard with Odinforce he could amp his physical abilities,including reflexes,and if that was true,then that's great. But it's gone,in any case,so whatever.

I actually like that he's depowered now. While I love Marvel (a bit more than DC,or just as much),they love to demolish many of their A-lister characters. Now that he's depowered,it's more like he's been put out of his misery imo

Although I have this strange feeling that since Aaron is writing him and Mjolnir with its versatality is gone, he is going to go all Wonder Woman on people's a**es.

I sure freaking hope so!

I hope we get something out of current (depowered) Thor and when he gets his hammer back.

I like Marvel upgrades (like Bleeding Edge and King of The Dead),so hopefully Thor will get something out of this. I also hope that he see from his depowered self,but until then,I'll just enjoy the ride.

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@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997: Thor hasn't been like that for,what,20 years? lol

Anyway,it's odd how the same old posters always love to compare DC and Marvel at every turn. I mean,f*cking seriously. If Thor gets punched,it's "HAHA LULZ THIS CONFIRMS IT! THOR GOT HURT BY CHARACTER X,AND SUPERMAN RECENTLY SHRUGGED OFF (blank)!"

It's rather....annoying. But hey,zealots will be zealots.

15 years but you're close. Scans are from Dan Jurgens run. The guy definitely knew his stuff. In almost every issue when Thor is fighting against a powerful opponent, he would use his strength, skill and hammer's abilities to the fullest. Altough you can make the argument that fights against Gorr and Malakeith were pretty good showings as again he remembered he was absurdly strong and he crazy lightning powers.

Nowadays,and especially since Bendis has touched him,it's like he's been a consistent jobber that just flies up to his opponent,swings his hammer,and gets thrown back (with the occasional lightning attack). He's hardly used his hammer's other versatile abilities. I heard with Odinforce he could amp his physical abilities,including reflexes,and if that was true,then that's great. But it's gone,in any case,so whatever.

I actually like that he's depowered now. While I love Marvel (a bit more than DC,or just as much),they love to demolish many of their A-lister characters. Now that he's depowered,it's more like he's been put out of his misery imo

Although I have this strange feeling that since Aaron is writing him and Mjolnir with its versatality is gone, he is going to go all Wonder Woman on people's a**es.

I sure freaking hope so!

I hope we get something out of current (depowered) Thor and when he gets his hammer back.

I like Marvel upgrades (like Bleeding Edge and King of The Dead),so hopefully Thor will get something out of this. I also hope that he see from his depowered self,but until then,I'll just enjoy the ride.

Well I now also have this strange feeling that they may kill off Freya in a fight and then JMS run all over again. All Thor just stays King.

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@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997: Thor hasn't been like that for,what,20 years? lol

Anyway,it's odd how the same old posters always love to compare DC and Marvel at every turn. I mean,f*cking seriously. If Thor gets punched,it's "HAHA LULZ THIS CONFIRMS IT! THOR GOT HURT BY CHARACTER X,AND SUPERMAN RECENTLY SHRUGGED OFF (blank)!"

It's rather....annoying. But hey,zealots will be zealots.

15 years but you're close. Scans are from Dan Jurgens run. The guy definitely knew his stuff. In almost every issue when Thor is fighting against a powerful opponent, he would use his strength, skill and hammer's abilities to the fullest. Altough you can make the argument that fights against Gorr and Malakeith were pretty good showings as again he remembered he was absurdly strong and he crazy lightning powers.

Nowadays,and especially since Bendis has touched him,it's like he's been a consistent jobber that just flies up to his opponent,swings his hammer,and gets thrown back (with the occasional lightning attack). He's hardly used his hammer's other versatile abilities. I heard with Odinforce he could amp his physical abilities,including reflexes,and if that was true,then that's great. But it's gone,in any case,so whatever.

I actually like that he's depowered now. While I love Marvel (a bit more than DC,or just as much),they love to demolish many of their A-lister characters. Now that he's depowered,it's more like he's been put out of his misery imo

Although I have this strange feeling that since Aaron is writing him and Mjolnir with its versatality is gone, he is going to go all Wonder Woman on people's a**es.

I sure freaking hope so!

I hope we get something out of current (depowered) Thor and when he gets his hammer back.

I like Marvel upgrades (like Bleeding Edge and King of The Dead),so hopefully Thor will get something out of this. I also hope that he see from his depowered self,but until then,I'll just enjoy the ride.

Well I now also have this strange feeling that they may kill off Freya in a fight and then JMS run all over again. All Thor just stays King.

To be honest,I think I've grown a bit attached to her,and it's especially because of how she's portrayed as being powerful, assertive, and in control, yet she actually seems like a compassionate parent-figure (unlike what I've seen from Odin and his portrayals).

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@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997: Thor hasn't been like that for,what,20 years? lol

Anyway,it's odd how the same old posters always love to compare DC and Marvel at every turn. I mean,f*cking seriously. If Thor gets punched,it's "HAHA LULZ THIS CONFIRMS IT! THOR GOT HURT BY CHARACTER X,AND SUPERMAN RECENTLY SHRUGGED OFF (blank)!"

It's rather....annoying. But hey,zealots will be zealots.

15 years but you're close. Scans are from Dan Jurgens run. The guy definitely knew his stuff. In almost every issue when Thor is fighting against a powerful opponent, he would use his strength, skill and hammer's abilities to the fullest. Altough you can make the argument that fights against Gorr and Malakeith were pretty good showings as again he remembered he was absurdly strong and he crazy lightning powers.

Nowadays,and especially since Bendis has touched him,it's like he's been a consistent jobber that just flies up to his opponent,swings his hammer,and gets thrown back (with the occasional lightning attack). He's hardly used his hammer's other versatile abilities. I heard with Odinforce he could amp his physical abilities,including reflexes,and if that was true,then that's great. But it's gone,in any case,so whatever.

I actually like that he's depowered now. While I love Marvel (a bit more than DC,or just as much),they love to demolish many of their A-lister characters. Now that he's depowered,it's more like he's been put out of his misery imo

Although I have this strange feeling that since Aaron is writing him and Mjolnir with its versatality is gone, he is going to go all Wonder Woman on people's a**es.

I sure freaking hope so!

I hope we get something out of current (depowered) Thor and when he gets his hammer back.

I like Marvel upgrades (like Bleeding Edge and King of The Dead),so hopefully Thor will get something out of this. I also hope that he see from his depowered self,but until then,I'll just enjoy the ride.

Well I now also have this strange feeling that they may kill off Freya in a fight and then JMS run all over again. All Thor just stays King.

To be honest,I think I've grown a bit attached to her,and it's especially because of how she's portrayed as being powerful, assertive, and in control, yet she actually seems like a compassionate parent-figure (unlike what I've seen from Odin and his portrayals).

Same here. I really hope Mrvel doesn't do anything to her.

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@comicstooge: Both the Spiky-dude vs Avengers fight and the Ghost Rider vs Punisher fight are awesome, if you want, I'll scan em and send you the fights.

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@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997 said:

@cameron83 said:

@spiderman1997: Thor hasn't been like that for,what,20 years? lol

Anyway,it's odd how the same old posters always love to compare DC and Marvel at every turn. I mean,f*cking seriously. If Thor gets punched,it's "HAHA LULZ THIS CONFIRMS IT! THOR GOT HURT BY CHARACTER X,AND SUPERMAN RECENTLY SHRUGGED OFF (blank)!"

It's rather....annoying. But hey,zealots will be zealots.

15 years but you're close. Scans are from Dan Jurgens run. The guy definitely knew his stuff. In almost every issue when Thor is fighting against a powerful opponent, he would use his strength, skill and hammer's abilities to the fullest. Altough you can make the argument that fights against Gorr and Malakeith were pretty good showings as again he remembered he was absurdly strong and he crazy lightning powers.

Nowadays,and especially since Bendis has touched him,it's like he's been a consistent jobber that just flies up to his opponent,swings his hammer,and gets thrown back (with the occasional lightning attack). He's hardly used his hammer's other versatile abilities. I heard with Odinforce he could amp his physical abilities,including reflexes,and if that was true,then that's great. But it's gone,in any case,so whatever.

I actually like that he's depowered now. While I love Marvel (a bit more than DC,or just as much),they love to demolish many of their A-lister characters. Now that he's depowered,it's more like he's been put out of his misery imo

Although I have this strange feeling that since Aaron is writing him and Mjolnir with its versatality is gone, he is going to go all Wonder Woman on people's a**es.

I sure freaking hope so!

I hope we get something out of current (depowered) Thor and when he gets his hammer back.

I like Marvel upgrades (like Bleeding Edge and King of The Dead),so hopefully Thor will get something out of this. I also hope that he see from his depowered self,but until then,I'll just enjoy the ride.

Hey @lvenger what are your thoughts on this matter ? You know how Thor fights today in comparison to past 15-20 years.

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@comicstooge: Both the Spiky-dude vs Avengers fight and the Ghost Rider vs Punisher fight are awesome, if you want, I'll scan em and send you the fights.

That'd rock, dude!

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@lvenger: You know who is the spiky guy, right?

Well no but he doesn't look above street level. His kicks didn't seem to hurt Thor, he just outmanoeuvred him with superior speed, agility and skill. I'm going to guess that it's Steve's son from Dimension Z but if it's not, feel free to correct me. It doesn't change the fact that Thor is not a fast fighter at all.

You are correct.

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wait, are you telling me captain america with no super soldier serum was faster than thor and hulk???

As an old man with no super soldier serum....I have scans in my gallery if you want to check out the whole thing.

To be fair though, once Ian got to Cap he never fought back and Cap just got him to the ground.

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I'm a huge Thor fan, but I hate how Marvel and the MCU love shitting on him.

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@comicstooge: Okay so my scanner is messed up or something so I'll have to get my dad to fix it tomorrow, until then I just used my phone to take pictures of the Ghost Rider vs Punisher fight, I will scan it and reupload it sometime tomorrow or the day after but anyway. I apologize for the quality. To save time I skipped the flashback with Zadkiel.

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Well at least Thunderbolts got a bit right about GRs powers

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@keenko: well that was an unexpected ending

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Dear Marvel,

Why are you ruining your best characters? You were doing so well.

Sincerely, me.

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Nice.

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@Tdk_1997: hes only human right? Man that sucks for huge thor fans. As a normal thor fan, it doesnt bother me much because its consistent and the editor in chief at marvel recently stated that he has super speed in travel but not so much in combat. Well, technically he should have said. Mjolnir is fast in travel since mjolnir is the one flying him thru space.

Correct.

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@keenko said:

@jashro44 said:

@lvenger said:

@tdk_1997 said:

@lvenger: You know who is the spiky guy, right?

Well no but he doesn't look above street level. His kicks didn't seem to hurt Thor, he just outmanoeuvred him with superior speed, agility and skill. I'm going to guess that it's Steve's son from Dimension Z but if it's not, feel free to correct me. It doesn't change the fact that Thor is not a fast fighter at all.

You are correct.

@karazor-el said:

wait, are you telling me captain america with no super soldier serum was faster than thor and hulk???

As an old man with no super soldier serum....I have scans in my gallery if you want to check out the whole thing.

To be fair though, once Ian got to Cap he never fought back and Cap just got him to the ground.

Yeah, that actually seemed pretty silly. I mean a pretty advanced armor like Iron Man's one was getting handed by him and when he went to the old Stve he got his ass whacked. It may probably be just because he wasn't really trying because Steve is his father but it did seem pretty fanboyish a little from Remender.

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@gav said:

Who'd of thunk the only person who did well against the mysterious adversary in the Captain America comic was....Captain America. Nice to see the DC speed wank fest going on though, true colors coming out for some of these allegedly "non bias" posters...

Nice to see DC conspiracy nuts like you still stir the pot on the "speed wank fest" and "non bias posters." Way to go reading the intentions and, oh I don't know, sarcasm of these posts so very well. It doesn't change the facts anyway.

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@comicstooge: Both the Spiky-dude vs Avengers fight and the Ghost Rider vs Punisher fight are awesome, if you want, I'll scan em and send you the fights.

Can you please do that for me to?

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@terry2012: You got it, buddy. I'll do it tomorrow.

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@lvenger said:

@gav said:

Who'd of thunk the only person who did well against the mysterious adversary in the Captain America comic was....Captain America. Nice to see the DC speed wank fest going on though, true colors coming out for some of these allegedly "non bias" posters...

Nice to see DC conspiracy nuts like you still stir the pot on the "speed wank fest" and "non bias posters." Way to go reading the intentions and, oh I don't know, sarcasm of these posts so very well. It doesn't change the facts anyway.

How do you compare Thor's current skills vs 15-20 years ago ?

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I know Marvel won't allow Thor have super speed which should my opinion, but should at least be faster than human and his fighting skills should also be superior since training and fighting for centuries as well as his reactions times should also be better from experience alone.

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@spiderman1997: you dont. Some characters get strong or weaker overtime.

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Nice to see the Nick Fury I grew up with again. Can we please have this Nick back Jr can still be a shield toddie but the marvel U needs Nick sr.

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@karazor-el: I don't what ?

Oh wait, nevermind.

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How do you compare Thor's current skills vs 15-20 years ago ?

What do you mean by skill? Thor's never been much of a skilled fighter? His go to tactics are usually hammer strike, hammer throw and maybe some lightning and weather manipulation thrown in there too. If you mean speed, that's gone down over the years due to Marvel making their powerhouses more bricklike and physical whereas DC powerhouses are way more well rounded.

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@lvenger: @lvenger: I don't know. I mean he wasn't hopping around maybe but in the scans above he was literally going all Spiky Guy on them. And in the sane run(Dan Jurgens) he incorporated hammer strikes and throws with the hammer's versatality pretty well. So I guess it all comes down to the writer then ?

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@lvenger: @lvenger: I don't know. I mean he wasn't hopping around maybe but in the scans above he was literally going all Spiky Guy on them. And in the sane run(Dan Jurgens) he incorporated hammer strikes and throws with the hammer's versatality pretty well. So I guess it all comes down to the writer then ?

It does honestly. Some will have Thor remember to use his hammer's full powers and others will have him fight like a brute.

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@lvenger: Say, I haven't read the Fraction run. I've seen people including you said that it was rubbish. Is it really necessary to read ? Because from what I heard, I'd rather not to.

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@keenko: @tdk_1997: He never really seem to attack the avengers aside from hitting thor once which didn't really do anything. He seemed to mostly be dodging them.

Also here are the scans from thunderbolts if you want:

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@jashro44: I wasn't trying to say that he was attacking Iron Man and Thor but he sure as hell embarassed them a lot. I mean Thor's speed now can be questioned even more since he wasn't able to land a hit on an enhanced human while an old Steve Rogers managed to put him down rather quickly.

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