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Best Battles in New Comics: 10/31/14

It's time to enjoy some great fight scenes from the latest issues of DEATHLOK, SAVAGE DRAGON, and ELEKTRA!

Before you step away from your computer to enjoy Halloween, let's take a few minutes to celebrate some of the excellent action scenes that happened in the latest round of new comic books. As usual, there were a lot of battles to choose from, so narrowing down the options to just three took a good amount of consideration. That said, we're pretty happy with our choices. We have the brutal return of Deathlok, magnificent chaos from SAVAGE DRAGON, and Elektra being all kinds of awesome.

If your top choice isn't below, go ahead and show it some love in the comments section. That may convince someone else to buy the issue. Seems like a more effective way to support the comic than just complaining it wasn't highlighted, right? As for WONDER WOMAN #35, that would have been a pain to highlight without spoiling some big developments. So, click here if you want to talk about the end of Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang's time with Diana. Now, let's revisit some of this week's best battles!

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DEATHLOK #1

Our first highlight comes from writer Nathan Edmondson, artist Mike Perkins and colorist Andy Troy. There's a new Deathlok in the 616 universe and his name is Henry Hayes. Except there's just one catch: he doesn't know he's Deathlok. In the field, he's "Mustang" and he's a killing machine. Hayes thinks he's part of medics without borders and he's traveling the world to help people. He's totally oblivious to the fact some shadowy people are taking control of his mind and order him to fire a whole lot of bullets at some very unlucky people.

Deathlok is 100% business and 0% nonsense.
Deathlok is 100% business and 0% nonsense.

This poor dude thinks he's helping people in need when he's actually slaughtering designated targets with zero remorse. I mean, did you see how quickly he decided to kill that guy in the above page?! The mission on the train seemed effortless for him and it isn't long before the people controlling him send him on yet another mission. This time, he heads to Venezuela where Black Tarantula is leading a group of rebels and Deathlok's puppet masters want it shut down (they owe its government a favor). Black Tarantula vs. Deathlok? Yes! That guy's awesome and he's given Spidey some crazy fights.

Non-lethal shots? Ain't nobody got time for that!
Non-lethal shots? Ain't nobody got time for that!

Well, it was cool seeing him in a few panels, I guess? After Deathlok literally rained death upon them, he took aim with his assault rifle and began to do what he does best: shoot people. Like, a lot. What's especially cool is they show how precise and lethal this new Deathlok is. He's not unleashing and screaming as bullets rip into people at random locations. The angles put an emphasis on just how accurate each shot is and how a single bullet is being used to drop each and every target. It's scary how effective this character is.

Everybody wants Deathlok on their paintball team.
Everybody wants Deathlok on their paintball team.

If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet. We'll definitely stick around to see how everything unfolds because this debut issue was pretty good and we absolutely recommend checking it out.

SAVAGE DRAGON #199

Our next highlight comes from Erik Larsen and Nikos Koutsis' and it's an issue that consists purely of double page spreads. That's right, pretty much every single (double) page is something that'll keep you looking at it for several minutes. The plot's simple enough: Savage Dragon finds himself being confronted by the Demonoids in the underworld. He's way outnumbered and things aren't looking good for him, so he points out that backup should be arriving any minute now. It turns out he wasn't lying and the Special Operations Strikeforce busts into the scene and we're treated to all kinds of madness. Seriously, take a look at everything going on.

Behold! Just a taste of the issue's double page spread goodness.
Behold! Just a taste of the issue's double page spread goodness.

Glorious, isn't it? The plot is as simple as it gets, but this is all about the visual ride. Just like with every other highlight, we're only going to show you three pieces of the issue, but every single (double) page kept us staring for a decent amount of time. Anyway, even though the Special Operations Strikeforce is able to pull Savage Dragon's butt out of the dangerous situation, all of the craziness follows them back to the surface. Get your eyes ready for another cool double spread page.

3D glasses are not required to think this is amazing and in your face.
3D glasses are not required to think this is amazing and in your face.

It's not just the big fellow that broke through, either. All of the little dudes come crawling to the surface. You know what that means, right? It's time for more fighting! There's everything from punches to kicks to Demonoids getting riddled with bullets. But before we shift our focus to the next image, take another moment or two to gaze at the one above. Impressive, isn't it? Anyhow, prepare for more eye-catching art!

So. Much. Chaos.
So. Much. Chaos.

If you just want to look at a ton of hugely detailed artwork and a whole lot of action, it doesn't get much better than SAVAGE DRAGON #199. It's terrific artwork and battling the entire time, so it's obviously more than deserving of being included in this week's edition of Best Battles. Be kind to your eyes and check this one out.

ELEKTRA #7

This week's final highlight comes from W. Haden Blackman, Alex Sanchez and Esther Sanz. Previously, Elektra viciously defeated Lady Bullseye. While at death's door, the Assassins Guild offered her an experimental procedure. It would grant her new abilities, but it also means she'd have a limited amount of time left on this Earth and she'd need to use it to take down Elektra. Naturally, Lady Bullseye accepts and now it's time for round two! The new ability? Intangibility. That'll be a bit of a problem for Elektra, won't it?

At least Lady Bullseye recognizes she needs an upgrade to take on Elektra.
At least Lady Bullseye recognizes she needs an upgrade to take on Elektra.

We won't spoil how Elektra wins (come on, you know she wins), but we will say it's brutal and an impressive feat for the assassin. Even though she suffers a couple of injuries, she soon finds herself in yet another fight. This time, she's squaring off against upgraded versions of Whiplash, Jack O'Lantern and Tiger Shark. For many, this would be an intimidating sight and an uphill struggle. For Elektra, though? She kicks one of Jack O'Lantern's projectiles right back at them and then jumps right into action.

Float like an Elektra, sai like an Elektra.
Float like an Elektra, sai like an Elektra.

Even though Whiplash has four arms, the nimble assassin dodges all of the attacks with ease and jams her two weapons into the guy's spine. Some may open with a kick to the body or a punch to the face, but Elektra stabs a dude in the spine. Harsh but effective. Now that the biggest challenge is out of the way (according to her, that is), she has no trouble handling the remaining duo. Jack O'Lantern? She tackles and pummels. Tiger Shark? Well, let's just say he suffers a more savage defeat.

Burned and then stabbed in the head. It's official: W. Haden Blackman hates Tiger Shark.
Burned and then stabbed in the head. It's official: W. Haden Blackman hates Tiger Shark.

ELEKTRA #7 does a brilliant job showing how deadly, swift, and tough Elektra can be. From the opening sequence until the very last page, this issue either demonstrates why she isn't a pushover or gives us a nice insight into her psyche. And the ending? It promises even more action in the next issue.

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What are your top three fights from this latest round of new comics? Support what you love and tell the world below. Also, don't forget to make nominations every week in the official thread or tell us via Twitter. See you next Friday and have a good weekend!

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Those are some good splash pages from Savage Dragon. After reading a bunch of comics today with bad splash pages, it really gives me a better sense of appreciation for when they're done well.

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Nice

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Wonder woman vs first born??

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No Swamp thing vs Etrigan?

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Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

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Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

We'll just have to endure the badness for awhile. Not like I'm not use to it all ready w/Spidey -.-

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Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

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Those are some good splash pages from Savage Dragon. After reading a bunch of comics today with bad splash pages, it really gives me a better sense of appreciation for when they're done well.

I'm not the biggest Larson fan, but I respect the hell out of him as a worker. Man knows how to get the job done.

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Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

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@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

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Isn't Deathlok like a class 100? That dudes head should be gone lol

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Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

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@k4tzm4n said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

@surfingthehighway said:

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

@jonny_anonymous said:

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

Yes we know he has a healing factor but at the end of the day they still used him to make another character look better. The definition of jobbing.

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erik larsen has always been awesome to me. one of the best artists to splinter off in the image imprint

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@k4tzm4n said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

@surfingthehighway said:

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

@jonny_anonymous said:

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

This more a case of "The Worf Effect." Yes, the scene was 250% in his favor... because Edmondson set it up to make Deathlok look as "cool" as possible. To paraphrase TV Tropes, this is when a writer wants to put over a new guy, but at the expense of an established tough guy. I am simply not a fan of it, as I consider it a lazy trope to go with. Granted, BT will be back, either through healing factor, this guy was a duplicate, or whatever.

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Deathlock looks like a Bloodshot rip off.

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@meatwadf said:

@k4tzm4n said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

@surfingthehighway said:

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

@jonny_anonymous said:

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

This more a case of "The Worf Effect." Yes, the scene was 250% in his favor... because Edmondson set it up to make Deathlok look as "cool" as possible. To paraphrase TV Tropes, this is when a writer wants to put over a new guy, but at the expense of an established tough guy. I am simply not a fan of it, as I consider it a lazy trope to go with. Granted, BT will be back, either through healing factor, this guy was a duplicate, or whatever.

@k4tzm4n said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

@surfingthehighway said:

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

@jonny_anonymous said:

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

Yes we know he has a healing factor but at the end of the day they still used him to make another character look better. The definition of jobbing.

To me, it doesn't make Black Tarantula look bad. To have Deathlok approach the scenario any differently would have been foolish. Black Tarantula WILL be back (if you read the comic, you'll see he's perfectly fine and has his eye on Deathlok) and I'm certain next time the encounter will be different. Shooting Black Tarantula in the head doesn't make Deathlok any cooler (the opening train sequence was plenty to promote his formidability, as is what follows with the rebels) and, to me, it doesn't downplay BT. This is no different than the time he was stabbed in the back. Just because a guy's an awesome combatant doesn't mean that has to be shown every single time. He and the team of rebels had no idea they'd be encountering that opposition and I have no problem with the way it played out. Edmondson clearly has more plans for BT. If BT just gets owned time and time again, then I'll complain because the character is underused and does deserve respect. But this? I've no issue with it since it's made blatantly obvious this isn't the last we've seen of him in the arc.

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Deathlock looks like a Bloodshot rip off.

Deathlok came first but this is a new design from the looks of it.

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Isn't Deathlok like a class 100? That dudes head should be gone lol

Collins had 80 ton strength. We haven't seen just yet what this new Deathlok's physical limits are. Maybe someone should ask Edmondson on Twitter?

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I can't look at Deathlok and not think of Iron Maiden.

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@k4tzm4n said:
@meatwadf said:

@k4tzm4n said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

@surfingthehighway said:

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

@jonny_anonymous said:

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

This more a case of "The Worf Effect." Yes, the scene was 250% in his favor... because Edmondson set it up to make Deathlok look as "cool" as possible. To paraphrase TV Tropes, this is when a writer wants to put over a new guy, but at the expense of an established tough guy. I am simply not a fan of it, as I consider it a lazy trope to go with. Granted, BT will be back, either through healing factor, this guy was a duplicate, or whatever.

@jonny_anonymous said:

@k4tzm4n said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

@surfingthehighway said:

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

@jonny_anonymous said:

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

Yes we know he has a healing factor but at the end of the day they still used him to make another character look better. The definition of jobbing.

To me, it doesn't make Black Tarantula look bad. To have Deathlok approach the scenario any differently would have been foolish. Black Tarantula WILL be back (if you read the comic, you'll see he's perfectly fine and has his eye on Deathlok) and I'm certain next time the encounter will be different. Shooting Black Tarantula in the head doesn't make Deathlok any cooler (the opening train sequence was plenty to promote his formidability, as is what follows with the rebels) and, to me, it doesn't downplay BT. This is no different than the time he was stabbed in the back. Just because a guy's an awesome combatant doesn't mean that has to be shown every single time. He and the team of rebels had no idea they'd be encountering that opposition and I have no problem with the way it played out. Edmondson clearly has more plans for BT. If BT just gets owned time and time again, then I'll complain because the character is underused and does deserve respect. But this? I've no issue with it since it's made blatantly obvious this isn't the last we've seen of him in the arc.

That's good to hear, at least. lol I dig BT, and would hate to see him go out like so much Doombot.

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@k4tzm4n: So it's more giving Black Tarantula a reason to become Deathlok's arch-enemy and less making Deathlok look good by underminding BT. I am 100% on board with this if that's the case.

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Sorry but those Savage Dragon spreads were garbage. In this day and age that art is horrendous. That looks like some 1993 art right there. If that was for that time sure but i cant accept that as awesome art in this day and time.

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@rainja said:

Sorry but those Savage Dragon spreads were garbage. In this day and age that art is horrendous. That looks like some 1993 art right there. If that was for that time sure but i cant accept that as awesome art in this day and time.

So, because you don't like the style it's "garbage"? Harsh, dude.

@k4tzm4n: So it's more giving Black Tarantula a reason to become Deathlok's arch-enemy and less making Deathlok look good by underminding BT. I am 100% on board with this if that's the case.

Yeah, and what's interesting is it can play out so Black Tarantula's technically a good guy.

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Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

@surfingthehighway said:

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

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@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

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@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

This more a case of "The Worf Effect." Yes, the scene was 250% in his favor... because Edmondson set it up to make Deathlok look as "cool" as possible. To paraphrase TV Tropes, this is when a writer wants to put over a new guy, but at the expense of an established tough guy. I am simply not a fan of it, as I consider it a lazy trope to go with. Granted, BT will be back, either through healing factor, this guy was a duplicate, or whatever.

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@k4tzm4n said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

@surfingthehighway said:

Did they just blatantly murdered Black Tarantula?

One Argentine character less... sigh...

@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

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@meatwadf said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Originally I wanted Edmondson to take over writing daredevil but if this is how he treats DD characters then I've changed my mind.

Seriously. I really dig Black Tarantula. Just... You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect. That's weaksauce.

Yeah exactly. Jobbing is the lowest form of character development

"If you're a fan of Black Tarantula, you probably know the guy has an accelerated healing factor. So don't be surprised if we see more of him down the road. Here's hoping the two have a more balanced fight the next time they meet."

Also, I really don't see how this was Black Tarantula jobbing. The situation was 250% in Deathlok's favor. They made an effort to show the new Deathlok is a very talented marksman, so if Black Tarantula is out in the open and unaware he's being targeted, it would be very silly to have Deathlok suddenly miss or land less effective shots.

Yes we know he has a healing factor but at the end of the day they still used him to make another character look better. The definition of jobbing.

To me, it doesn't make Black Tarantula look bad. To have Deathlok approach the scenario any differently would have been foolish. Black Tarantula WILL be back (if you read the comic, you'll see he's perfectly fine and has his eye on Deathlok) and I'm certain next time the encounter will be different. Shooting Black Tarantula in the head doesn't make Deathlok any cooler (the opening train sequence was plenty to promote his formidability, as is what follows with the rebels) and, to me, it doesn't downplay BT. This is no different than the time he was stabbed in the back. Just because a guy's an awesome combatant doesn't mean that has to be shown every single time. He and the team of rebels had no idea they'd be encountering that opposition and I have no problem with the way it played out. Edmondson clearly has more plans for BT. If BT just gets owned time and time again, then I'll complain because the character is underused and does deserve respect. But this? I've no issue with it since it's made blatantly obvious this isn't the last we've seen of him in the arc.

That's good to hear, at least. lol I dig BT, and would hate to see him go out like so much Doombot.

Yup, he'll definitely be back for more. Now we'll just have to wait and see how it's handled. A more balanced match between the two has a lot of potential and could really test this new Deathlok's limits.

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I've been looking forward to seeing BT reappear for a long time, so to see him go out like that is dissapointing to say the least -_-

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The style of art in Savage Dragon isn't my cup of tea but he sure draws some awesome looking monsters. Is that book any good these days? It's impressive to me that it is still going. Same with Spawn even though it seems neither of those books get much attention now. Although, Brian Wood taking over Spawn will probably raise awareness of it.

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As long as Black Tarantula does better next time then that's all fine. Good to see him being used.

Elektra was straight up awesome in all her fights this issue. Blackman clearly wants to give her serious props. The way she beat Lady Bullseye was really creative, and she just tore through those multi-powered other assassins like nothing--not to mention everyone else later on too!

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@k4tzm4n: Yup, Garbage!!! I know its an/my opinion but so is "harsh" as well. However, i believe my opinion is very valid in this day and age.

With all due respect bro, we are in 2014 and when it comes to the evolution of "Beautiful"/Great comic book art i expect no less than art from the likes of Jason Fabok, Ivan Reis,Gary Frank,Tony S. Daniel just to name a bare minimum. These artist represent how far comic book art has come and evolved from when comics were created . Therefore, i expect no less. Comic book art is supposed to continue to evolve, not digress and go back 10 years. Its like a video game developerre purposely making games on Pc/PS4/X-box. With Game boy and Nintendo graphics. That is totally unacceptable.

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Cool showing for Etrigan this month. We need more of him.

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@rainja said:

@k4tzm4n: Yup, Garbage!!! I know its an/my opinion but so is "harsh" as well. However, i believe my opinion is very valid in this day and age.

With all due respect bro, we are in 2014 and when it comes to the evolution of "Beautiful"/Great comic book art i expect no less than art from the likes of Jason Fabok, Ivan Reis,Gary Frank,Tony S. Daniel just to name a bare minimum. These artist represent how far comic book art has come and evolved from when comics were created . Therefore, i expect no less. Comic book art is supposed to continue to evolve, not digress and go back 10 years. Its like a video game developerre purposely making games on Pc/PS4/X-box. With Game boy and Nintendo graphics. That is totally unacceptable.

Actually, with all due respect, your opinion is just that, an opinion. It is not any more or any less valid than any other, and Larsen's style is just that, Larsen's style. Then are a ton of different styles in the comic book world, and I can think of quite a few from the big two that a majority of users on this site would classify as garbage, while enjoying Larsen's style. Does that make those supposedly "modern styles" garbage though? No, it just makes them styles that these users do not enjoy.

Is Larsen's style your cup of tea? Apparently not. That doesn't make the style garbage. It simply makes it a style that you do not enjoy. Not to mention, Larsen's style has seen quite a few changes and evolution's, and works quite well for the stories he tells. There are a plethora of modern artists that don't use the "perfect/beautiful" styles of the artists you named, just as in the world of real art, you don't see purely picture perfect paintings and sculptures...no, you still see a plethora of styles all across the board.

There is no set media set standard for beautiful and perfect artwork. There are just a billion different styles, and a billion different opinions. The world of comic book art and art in general would be really quite boring if it all met one set standard based on your opinion.

@k4tzm4n: I applaud you for using Savage Dragon in the best fights section. It is always awesome to see something not from the big two, and from a book I quite enjoy.

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The art was fine in Savage Dragon, but BT was so disappointing..

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@wyldsong: Larsens style is garbage by the definition i listed out above and so are those so called "Mordern styles". I also like the fact that they used another comic from outside the big two. Marvel and DC arnt the only brands but at the same time just because its not them dosent mean i relax my views on art.

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@rainja said:

@wyldsong: Larsens style is garbage by the definition i listed out above and so are those so called "Mordern styles". I also like the fact that they used another comic from outside the big two. Marvel and DC arnt the only brands but at the same time just because its not them dosent mean i relax my views on art.

And you are still spouting pure opinion. You find it garbage, I find it enjoyable and perfectly acceptable in this day and age. Two differing points of view, and two very different opinions.

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Larsen's double-page spreads are...intense.

I'm impressed.

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@rainja: It seems as though you only enjoy house styles and that is absurd. Art is never going to be objective so there is no reason for you to try to push your opinion as if it is a fact. I'm not overly fond of Larsen's style but I can see how it has an appeal. Stop being close minded and you might enjoy the world a little more.

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The Elektra vs Lady Bullseye fight was really disappointing. I liked the issue a lot but that fight particulary was a real letdown. I expected it to last longer and for it to be more entertaining.

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@meatwadf:

You can show a guy's bad ass without having to resort to use of the Worf Effect.

?

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@syncig said:

The style of art in Savage Dragon isn't my cup of tea but he sure draws some awesome looking monsters. Is that book any good these days? It's impressive to me that it is still going. Same with Spawn even though it seems neither of those books get much attention now. Although, Brian Wood taking over Spawn will probably raise awareness of it.

The recent Spawn comics with Downing has been nothing short of amazing, and links many forgotten or unsolved plots from the first 130 comics into the current ones now. Its really god, with awesome artwork for it.

But yeah, not as well known these days.

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@syncig said:

The style of art in Savage Dragon isn't my cup of tea but he sure draws some awesome looking monsters. Is that book any good these days? It's impressive to me that it is still going. Same with Spawn even though it seems neither of those books get much attention now. Although, Brian Wood taking over Spawn will probably raise awareness of it.

The recent Spawn comics with Downing has been nothing short of amazing, and links many forgotten or unsolved plots from the first 130 comics into the current ones now. Its really god, with awesome artwork for it.

But yeah, not as well known these days.

I was wondering how Spawn had been. I stopped keeping track of it after the reboot, aside from the occasional glance at it in Previews.

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@meatwadf: There is no reboot that i know of. Its all a continuous story.

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I did send a suggestion in this time but I guess I sent it in to late or you guys didn't see it. Here is my favorite battle this week from Wolverine and the X-men #11. Storm finally meets Melita, the woman Logan's been dating in his solo series and the two have an intimate conversation. Storm tells her a story about trust, with respect to Logan and the X-Men, trusting her with the book she is writing about his life.The story follows Ororo and Logan to Japan where they find themselves up against 30 Hand Ninjas. Fighting side by side/back to back this scene showed just how much he trusted Storm. The scene also shows that Storm is just as deadly with h2h as she is with her mutant ability.

Thanks to Thunderbolt30 for the scans and review.

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@meatwadf: There is no reboot that i know of. Its all a continuous story.

Didn't they get rid of Al as Spawn a few years ago and replace him with a Jim Downing?

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@meatwadf: yes Al died and the suit went to Downing. But it's not a reboot.

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@meatwadf: yes Al died and the suit went to Downing. But it's not a reboot.

I always just considered it that, since it was a new character, whole new storyline, etc...

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