When the New 52 was announced last summer, I was hoping that Tim would have filled the void left by Barbara and take on the role of 'support' for the Bat-family. I'm just curious: what do you guys think of that idea? Would you like to see that? Is it a good way to get Tim more involved with the Batfamily?
Tim filling the Oracle role...?
@War Killer said:
<------ still wishes Barbara would return to being Oracle and that Cassandra would become The New 52 Batgirl.
This is my first choice, too--actually, I wish nearly everything about the Batfamily went back to pre-New 52, but that's a topic for another time. I'm saying, assuming Barbara is going to stay Batgirl for a while, then I'd like to see Tim take a more active role in Gotham, even if it means filling the niche that was occupied by Oracle.
Truth is, no one really likes the super hacker role. People say they do, but when you ask if they'd like to see their favorite character take that place, the answer is mostly "No".
As I like both Tim and Babs, I'm glad none of them is Oracle hehe.
Heh. I guess you've summed up the thoughts in this thread pretty well. Although, I will say, Tim is my all-time favorite character, and, if it meant he was more involved with the Batfamily in the DCnU, I'd be happy to see him take the 'super-hacker'/support role. I guess my major point is that, I hate the fact that The New 52 scattered the Batfamily and Tim got stuck in the Titans corner of the Universe.
I always thought Barbara could do both...I mean, she is Oracle, and she is Batgirl. Gail Simone in my opinion has done a phenomenal job at bring Babs back into the field as Batgirl. Barbara is capable of doing so much more than we expect, which we learned when she became Oracle. She is primarily Batgirl at the moment, but we also see her using her computer skills in the new 52 series. She uses those skills to find out Mirror's past, and she also made it so she gets her father's GCPD alerts. I dont know if that is really all that amazing, but we see it come out. Another thing, we really don't know if Barbara had ever been Oracle in the first place in the new 52. I know, that sucks. Hopefully our minds will be at ease, and Gail will show us that Oracle is still a huge part of Babs past.
Oh, one more thing.
Wendy Harris is the daughter of the Calculator. She could very likely have computer skills we don''t know about. She is in a wheelchair, like Babs was. She also turned on her father, so wouldn't that make her a likely candidate?
@pinkdaizygirl : Do you need to be in a wheelchair to be Oracle? Hehe, one more proof that nobody wants to take that role unless it's the last option.
About Babs being able to do both (informer and hero), I totally agree with you. She's done a few hacker work not only in her comic, but also in Batwing, issues #7 and #8. Plus, she's kind of "the information girl" of the Birds of Prey.
@sEsposito7 : Hehe, haven't I? Well, I prefer to see characters on the field than in the background, it's more distant from real life, so I'd rather Tim not to be behind a computer. However, the same way Babs can occupy both positions, I see no reason why Tim wouldn't be able to do the same. Red Robin with the Titans and "Oracle"/Red Robin hacker version with the Bat-Family.
Well, the New 52 scattered the Bat-family but we can see some meetings through issues. They'll probably spend more time together in a near future. Batman and Robin #10 or #11 will be featuring all "sons of the bat" together, so I guess it's a good sign.
From now, I'm happy because at least Nightwing escaped from ending up with groups I'm not really a fan of: The Outlaws and Teen Titans. I don't think Bat-guys fill in so well. For a while, yeah, but forever it feels like they're out of place :P
This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for:Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.