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@a_fine_edition: Godzilla being sidelined is the biggest complaint in the fandom right now, and I wouldn't disagree, but so far as I've heard next movie is more Godzilla so that's nice. I also agree Shimo was a little underwhelming. I'm not going to make predictions on her though as almost every one of my predictions so far were spectacularly wrong.

That reads great. It really does. But it boils down to "Write original fanfic under this banner" you need a hook. An angle. Marvel Iron Age went hard because it was original fanfic but it had a hook. You would probably have better luck using your enthusiasm and making a new world with rules and setting and delicious, meaty HOOKS.

Like Batz said, make a sandbox, then invite people to play with you. In all sincerity, good luck with your project.

@a_fine_edition: Saw it a second time today. There's one exposition heavy scene that I felt dragged a bit, but mostly a solid movie. It actually averted or subverted my expectations a few times. I believe in our last discourse I was optimistic about Skar King, what with being a mean ape and such. I can update my opinion to I LOVE SKAR KING. Certainly not the best antagonist to go against Godzilla, but easily one of the more fun villains in the Monsterverse canon. I like the human characters, but if you go to these for monsters... lets say on the sliding scale this is opposite of Godzilla 2014 for onscreen monsters action.

@a_fine_edition: Say old bean, have you had the opportunity to avail your eyes of this cinematic masterpiece?

Aside from Marvel Iron Age I think this is my favorite group since I joined.

@batkevin74: Hey can I get back rent for all the years this story has lived in my head?

@a_fine_edition:

Fair points. Historically these have been stand alone, and really it is just my fanciful conjecture. But if not a cliffhanger then surely some post credit something. Which is hardly a risky bet with current trends. However I shall bet you 100 internet dollars that Kong and Godzilla do have a small tussel. If they were humans they would be doing a Hobbs and Shaw type snark off, but as giant monsters the alternative is a small physical altercation. Or, it might be a friendly sparring match. I'll go so far to say it may be just a fake out for the audience. But it will happen.

I'm with you about a tag team fight, but in that case I expect Godzilla and Kong to be on the ropes until they switch opponents.

@a_fine_edition:

Yeah, I'm not sure an Endgame-type film is what this'll be. Besides, Kong and Godzilla already fought. That was the whole premise of the previous movie. Also no way they'd kill off either one of the big boys. The selling point to me looks more like the teamup aspect (which is again why I think adding Megalon in for a potential tag team match alongside Skar King would be awesome)

Counter point, if I may. Yes Kong and Godzilla already fought. But by that same logic they also already teamed up. I would not put a double beat past the writers. Which is why I'm not ruling out one of them "dying" as an obvious cliffhanger. Think about the long con. Kong and Godzilla saving the day is not going to keep people talking about this movie after its done. And yes, they may pull an end credits about Oxygen Destroyer or Bagan or something to make the fans squeal, but I'm not betting on it. Last movie the selling was the fight, and it became a team up. This time they are selling a team up, so there's going to be a twist. Last but not least Kong and Godzilla parted ways peacefully but I'm not sure they are friends now so I'm expecting at least a small skirmish between them. Bonus points if they could resolve a situation early but they fail because they start fighting.

TLDR: Extremely sure this will end on a cliffhanger (I hope not!) and relatively sure they will fight at some point either due to ego or Skar somehow setting them against each other

@a_fine_edition:

Agreed about the villain, although I think he has potential, and him being a brand new monster is pretty cool as well.

Of course I'm always down for new monsters. If anything I'm kind of counter the fan base I think? Like, Love Mothra, Rodan, Ebirah, etc. But I kinda prefer the new guys in the monsterverse.

Interested in why you think this'll be a cliffhanger?

More paranoia than theory. I'm worried they might try to do an endgame type film. The antagonist pulls a last minute win over G and K, roll credits, end credit scene, and so on. I was thinking one of them would die but... both of them have kinda died? or, need to be revived at the very least. So killing one wouldn't really punch. But Skar King winning? Somehow turning G and K against each other, then cliffhanger? And I may be entirely off base.

I really don't understand the hate over pink spikes. He'll just be blue again in the next one anyway. Not sure how I feel about Skar King but I'm willing to give him a chance. I do suspect this movie will end on a cliffhanger. Nothing in the trailer suggests that but that would be a decent way to get butts in seats in the next 3-4 years for Godzilla X Kong Something Something Something