How do we deal with Alternate versions of Characters?

I love this site, and I really don't want to make things any more confusing than the comic world already makes it. But, I have a question that I posed to Captain Cascader that he suggested I create a forum topic about. That being, how should we handle multiple or alternate versions of a character.

His suggestion was to keep all the versions on the same page, for instance, even though there have been four people to go by the identity of Robin, we should only have one page where all four Robins are described with the real name being used to identify who is the current Robin.

I have no problem with that whatsoever, but my concern is that we might confuse readers especially when dealing with characters like the Exiles. Almost all of the Exile characters were alternate versions of Marvel characters, but I feel that since they're so radically different from their MU counterpart, that it might not make sense to keep them on the same page.

For instance, the MU Sunfire is Shiro Yoshida, but the Sunfire in Exiles was Mariko Yoshida, who was a female. I'm okay with putting them on the same page except that when you go to put down who was a team member of Exiles, it might confuse the casual reader into thinking that Shiro was once a member of Exiles.

But, I'm open to suggestions, and I promise to abide by whatever decision is decided upon.

Captain Crusador and I sorta disagree about this. I'm flexible and am willing to hear what others think. It could be separated in the regular form. Just put up a new heading (ie #Origin#, #Power#, #Ulitmate version?#) I have put up a couple Ultimate galleries like with Moon Knight and Reed Richards. Perhaps having it all in one page would be easier to read everything.

Even with Venom, the real name is listed as Mac Gargon but the origin is mostly Eddie Brocks.

My big opinion is that I just really don't want to have seperate pages for ultimate characters and stuf like Robin I, Robin II...etc.

I feel that there's plenty of room (as on the Venom page) to break out the multiple versions of venom. I think a good compramise for the real name thing is that we add another field and list them as...

Current Real Name: Mac Gargon

Original Real Name: Eddie Brocks

Does that make sense?

Works for me.

So, I guess my question is this: When I'm updating the members for Exiles, should I point to the Mimic page, and let the mimic bio page differentiate which version of Mimic was in Exiles?

tyger_raven says:

"So, I guess my question is this: When I'm updating the members for Exiles, should I point to the Mimic page, and let the mimic bio page differentiate which version of Mimic was in Exiles?"

Yes.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. Now I can fill out the Exiles member roster. :)

Also make sure to check over the submission guidelines link at the bottom of all pages. Dunno if it's not easy to see or doesn't make any sense. If anyone has any additions/changes to it lemme know.

In fact, I should just make it a "concept" page so that people can edit it directly! I'll do that now.

this was the last talked about thread in the forums and it's still completely relevant. especially because of the Secret Invasion

And Marvel Apes.

"And Marvel Apes."

There are several pages for alternate characters already, like Power Girl, but separate pages is not necessary in most cases and it should be enough with a short blurb at the bottom of the page.

The exception should be when the character are very integrated in the main universe (Powergirl, SM Prime, X-Man, Dark Beast), or when they are drastically different and there's enough to write to warrant a separate page (Bloodstorm, Morph, The Fallen).

The same should go for clones, it isn't necessary to do separate pages for every clone made of Spider-Man for example, but Scarlet Spider is enough of his own character to warrant his own page.

I got to bump this thread a little.....what happens when an alternate reality character's bio starts to get to the same size as the regular character's bio....I just think that eventually Spider-man (616) and Ultimate Spider-man are going to need their own pages

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My big opinion is that I just really don't want to have seperate pages for ultimate characters and stuf like Robin I, Robin II...etc.

I feel that there's plenty of room (as on the Venom page) to break out the multiple versions of venom. I think a good compramise for the real name thing is that we add another field and list them as...

Current Real Name: Mac Gargon

Original Real Name: Eddie Brocks

Does that make sense?

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I also have a question. 
 
There have been at least 2-3 versions of King Arthur and Morgan Le Fay in the DC universe, do we make seperate pages, or just add all bios and credits to the same page?

The way the wikis are done here is very weird because of mantle characters and heroes who change from one hero persona to the other (the Robins being a prime example)
 
I would have one page for current continuity and one for alternate realities (maybe with an exception for Marvel 1610) But I have no idea what to do with mantle characters.

If I understand this correctly, then this alternate universe Exiles Gambit page is a duplicate and the info should be moved to the main Gambit page?

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tyger_raven says:

"So, I guess my question is this: When I'm updating the members for Exiles, should I point to the Mimic page, and let the mimic bio page differentiate which version of Mimic was in Exiles?"

Yes.

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Earth-6706

I for one want to get rid of mantle pages altogether. 
As for the Gambit page, he only has the name in common and nothing else, he's not really a counterpart of anyone, so he should have his own page. 

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I also have a question. 
 
There have been at least 2-3 versions of King Arthur and Morgan Le Fay in the DC universe, do we make seperate pages, or just add all bios and credits to the same page?

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i think they should have something like,,,Robin:Dick Grayson, Robin: Damian Wayne.... so what ever their supername is have that first and then have their real name. So like right now they should have Captain America:Bucky, and for steve rogers they should just have his regular name since he is no longer captain america

" @CosmicGod432: If you search for Robin, those all come up as aliases. The point is to make pages and titles less cluttered. xP "

" @The Dark Huntress said:

" @CosmicGod432: If you search for Robin, those all come up as aliases. The point is to make pages and titles less cluttered. xP "

thats what im saying, they should have it where you have to type in the full thing . "