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What's the point at putting them at full power then evening it? 

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Most powerful forms? Divine Spawn laughs these two clowns out of existence.

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spawn...duh
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So they have all their abilities..... 
 
 
Also isn't Omega Spawn stronger than Divine Spawn? 
 
I don't keep up with Spawn always.....And then there's Angel Spawn, is he the divine one?

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Full power Spawn was near-omnipotent, yes? Well he stomps. Second is Doom. Mysticism usually beats science; Doom is a rather powerful mystic, while Manhattan is lower on the scientific Cosmic spectrum. Even pre-magic Doom used to do battle with Cosmic and mystic beings. Doom is no joke.

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1. Spawn 
2. Doom 
3. Manhattan.

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@venomoushatred1001 said:

1. Spawn 
2. Doom 
3. Manhattan.

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Spawn would probably take this
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@ShenLong said:
So they have all their abilities.....   Also isn't Omega Spawn stronger than Divine Spawn?  I don't keep up with Spawn always.....And then there's Angel Spawn, is he the divine one?
Divine Spawn has angel wings. I believe that is the one you are referring too.
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1. Doom - Beyonder's and Galactus' power anyone?
2. Spawn  
3. Dr Manhattan.

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@isaac_clarke said:
 1. Doom - Beyonder's and Galactus' power anyone?2. Spawn  3. Dr Manhattan.
OP states no Beyonder Powers. Galactus powers will most likely be moot against Divine Spawn.
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@Illuminatus said:
@isaac_clarke said:
 1. Doom - Beyonder's and Galactus' power anyone?2. Spawn  3. Dr Manhattan.
OP states no Beyonder Powers. Galactus powers will most likely be moot against Divine Spawn.
I read that after I posted, but didn't care enough to edit it out. 
What did Divine Spawn ever do to put him above Galactus? And don't mention God and Satan, neither are omnipotent and apparently are a dime a dozen in that universe according to the actual omnipotent character.
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spawn divine would wreck the lot.
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doom will beat you!

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@isaac_clarke said:

@Illuminatus said:

@isaac_clarke said:
 1. Doom - Beyonder's and Galactus' power anyone?2. Spawn  3. Dr Manhattan.
OP states no Beyonder Powers. Galactus powers will most likely be moot against Divine Spawn.
I read that after I posted, but didn't care enough to edit it out. What did Divine Spawn ever do to put him above Galactus? And don't mention God and Satan, neither are omnipotent and apparently are a dime a dozen in that universe according to the actual omnipotent character.
God Spawn at max power was backed by the MOM, basically he opened himself to the MOM's power and just used his will to shape the desire, at max power he would be equal to the MOM.That alone puts him above Galactus.
 
@JediXMan
: Pretty much he was.
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@god_spawn said:
God Spawn at max power was backed by the MOM, basically he opened himself to the MOM's power and just used his will to shape the desire, at max power he would be equal to the MOM.That alone puts him above Galactus.
@JediXMan
: Pretty much he was.
Like the Spectre is backed by the Presence! *sarcasm off*  
Really come now, how can he at max power be equal to the actually truly omnipotent character in said universe? That doesn't make any sense, much-less do I doubt you have a scan that remotely confirms it. It seems like pure speculation what Divine Spawn's upper limits are due to lacking any really mind blowing showings outside some Omniscience if I recall(Or being Omnipresent?).  
 
Lets try something new with these Divine Spawn threads. If we went by actually feats, honestly, would Divine Spawn be above Galactus? Feats alone.
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@isaac_clarke: It's really simple how his max power was equal to the being is because MOM fused with Spawn. That is his highest showing. And are you saying I don't have the scans to show this? 
 
Edit: I don't have the scans from the comic on this computer, on my other do. They should be somewhere in my gallery though, I'll check through it.
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@isaac_clarke: It's really simple how his max power was equal to the being is because MOM fused with Spawn. That is his highest showing. And are you saying I don't have the scans to show this?
If they were fused Spawn wouldn't have lost that omnipotence. All we get from that showing is MOM gave him power, how much power isn't elaborated on outside if he has enough desire he can do what he wishes.  
Outside that, I don't see how they aren't separate entities given Spawn didn't need some ridiculous omnipotence to foil the wonder twins of Earth. 

 
Outside that, we saw a half image of his face and MOM's when she gave him the power to fullfill his desire. If he was really merged and full blown omnipotence, how the heck would MOM depower him when he asked? 
  
Feel free to post the scan where they are merged and please don't let it be THIS picture: 
 
That was MOM talking TO Spawn.
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@isaac_clarke: Do you have the scan before the last picture?
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@isaac_clarke: Under Spawn's own power he couldn't bring his people back, or he didn't know how. MoM told him "You must close your eyes to this dead world and open yourself to me." Then it cuts to the 3rd scan you posted. 
 
I guess I was wrong then they weren't fused. Going over the scans it was more she let him borrow her power instead of a full blown merge.
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@god_spawn said:
@isaac_clarke: Do you have the scan before the last picture?
 
"Open yourself to me." Doesn't equal "FUSION DANCE!" because they never fused. They were still separate entities, otherwise why the heck would MOM be talking to himself? 
That's why she keeps calling Spawn having the power of a God, thats why Spawn in the picture doesn't have a big cosmicy face and is recreating the world all on his own, it's why MOM tells him this world was HIS creation. 
 
I mean honestly, taking a single vague sentence and rolling around this concept that they fused seems a tad bit unbelievable when nothing about these showings required omnipotence lol.
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@isaac_clarke: Aw look at that I corrected myself before hand..derp.
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@isaac_clarke: Under Spawn's own power he couldn't bring his people back, or he didn't know how. MoM told him "You must close your eyes to this dead world and open yourself to me." Then it cuts to the 3rd scan you posted.  I guess I was wrong then they weren't fused. Going over the scans it was more she let him borrow her power instead of a full blown merge.
Didn't know, that is why he was asking how can he bring them back.  
Glad we can agree on that, but I'm not going to blame you as Divine Spawn has been hyped into full blown omnipotence on these boards for as long as I've been here, with the occasional out of context scan of MOM chatting with Spawn. 
Seemingly everything Spawn ended up doing when he was a God, was under the power he was already given and we wouldn't have a clue if he's anything but a planetary reality warping power house.  
It's tough sell when little Franklin Richards is making Universes under his bed sheets lol.
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@isaac_clarke: Aw look at that I corrected myself before hand..derp.
Well I know that now. =P
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@isaac_clarke: Thanks though for clearing that up. It's been years since I read the spawn the comics and I had all the issues up to when Spawn blue his own head off and then I lost the comics in a moving accident which suuuuucked. It isn't the board's fault, it's kinda my fault since I lost the original comics then just picking up scans when I could and listening to people when I should have known better to read the scans more carefully and use those as the main source of info than listening to users as the focus which I did. I have the entire God Spawn appearance in scans in my other computer, just don't have to use them quite often, should double check through them.
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@god_spawn: No I blame the boards, it's human nature to believe what your told / read for the most part without question. Most people aren't going to do whatever it takes to prove it for ourselves and sometimes it's completely beyond said person's resources / ability to find said answers / results. It's why I can be content with the belieth we've been to the moon, the Earth revolves around the sun, the sun revolves is but a star in a galaxy of billions of stars, that math is actually useful outside school, etc etc etc. 
 
I think Crom said it best, we are herd animals, which comes with it's fair share of natural instincts.
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@isaac_clarke: True to an extent , I still blame myself a bit since I read the comic too just lost alllllll my Spawn comics -_-. Reading them once I guess, and then losing them then the only info you get can warp the only info you have based off a memory. 
 
No idea who Crom is.
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Crom_Crauch fellow, he is clever in what he says. At least when he isn't hating on things(cause he hates on a lot of things. <3 u crom).
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@JediXMan said:
Full power Spawn was near-omnipotent, yes? Well he stomps. Second is Doom. Mysticism usually beats science; Doom is a rather powerful mystic, while Manhattan is lower on the scientific Cosmic spectrum. Even pre-magic Doom used to do battle with Cosmic and mystic beings. Doom is no joke.
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What issue is that from, just curious. 
 
Also, I say Galactus > Spawn b/c Marvel characters I think are stronger, also Galactus can destroy universes with a thought and much, much more.

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@ShenLong said:

What issue is that from, just curious.  Also, I say Galactus > Spawn b/c Marvel characters I think are stronger, also Galactus can destroy universes with a thought and much, much more.

 Spawn 163 I believe. The rest of your post..can you prove Galactus as "destroying" universes with a thought and much much more?
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Was just scrolling through old battles on here and fine this one hilarious, god spawn would definitely win this, and I can't believe that people like @isaac_clarke was saying the equivalent of the one above all giving someone like doctor strange his power to accomplish some things that doctor strange even with the one above all's powers would lose lmao gotta love the vine.

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@sladeracer: lol god spawn was given the powers of the man of miracles, which is the equivalent of the one above all, I love doctor Manhattan and he's incredibly powerful, but he couldn't defeat someone who is the most powerful being in his own omniverse, that's just ridiculous.

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@sladeracer: I apologize, now that I think about it in comparison you are definitely half correct, the presence is the only one above dr Manhattan and the man of miracles is the only one above god spawn, so in that case it would be a stalemate between them and doctor doom loses.

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Manhattan blinks and erases both from existence. Mismatch.

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Spawn should scale higher, since Manhattan was below Perpetua, I don't think he has a shot

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@sladeracer: bs, since TBWL stole his power and needed crisis energy to be on her level

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@sladeracer: dont need to since I'm on mobile but I'll tell you that it happened in Death Metal #2, the Batman who laughs brain was put in the body of a Bruce wayne who had the powers of Dr Manhattan. He became BatManhattan

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Manhattan stomps

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@sladeracer: There is no shortage of Gods that reside in the DC Universe. There are Greek Gods, Egyptian Gods, Gods who hail from other planets, and Gods of New Genesis and Apokolips. Although there are many Gods, each mighty and with varying degrees of power, one God trumps them all. That God is The Presence.

The Presence, for lack of a better description, is the God who no one dares to trifle with. He is the one who created all, can take it away, gave life to the likes of Michael Demiurgos and the Spectre, is able to resurrect the dead, and is unable to be defeated.

The Presence is the reason the DC Universe exists and that was written by Jim lee, chief executive officer of dc comics, so that would put Manhattan equal to the powers of God spawn, the only one that loses here is doom, and to answer your question, spawn at normal levels was hypersonic and amped was FTLS so with M.O.M'S powers he would've been as fast as he wanted to be.

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