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#1 Posted by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

If anyone is to blame for Xavier's death it is the Avengers and specifically Iron Man. The goal of the X-men at the start was to have the Phoenix bond with Hope. Iron Man blasts the Phoenix, forcing it into the X-men. The Avengers then suddenly decide that Hope should have the Phoenix as it it were their idea originally. I used to be a huge fan of Iceman, but his ill placed anger at Cyclops has really made him come off like a tool. Where are the X-men that defended Jean Grey after she was possessed by the Phoenix? Marvel has a lot of weird double standards when it comes to how characters react to each other.

All of this - Also, when was the last time current timeline Iceman was in not ice form....?

#2 Posted by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

At least on my phone, it now seems to reliably stop after the first 2 images on the page load. ie, looking at best covers page, i see the first 2, then a bunch of empty spaces and urls where the rest should be.

#3 Posted by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@lowlaville: im having the same kind of issue on my mac and iphone. Ill get lots of empty spaces where images should be but only a few will load and then the page acts as if it's done loading. I get the url things as well. Very recent.

#4 Posted by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, I can honestly say this bored/confused me to the point where i stopped reading after 6 or 7 pages so as not to waste my time with it. I really hate overuse of parallel dimensions --- mostly because they come off as having the only goal of being as confusing as possible just because --- and I don't know why I thought this would be any different. Writing something complicated ≠ writing something good.

#5 Posted by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@munkiekong said:

An interesting aspect to consider is "how much of a retreat is allowed before it triggers the tactical retreat loss?" Say Wolverine get blasted into a building or something. Now he's got distance and, conveniently, he's broken line of sight and now has cover. Cyclops' best tactical move here would obviously not be to walk over to the hole in the wall and stick his head in looking for Wolverine - it would be to move to a location that is as far removed from any shadows or walls or etcetera as possible so he can see any attack coming. So how far is he allowed to go before it's a "tactical retreat" loss? Also, how long is Wolverine allowed to sit in cover and heal/sneak around before he is credited with a loss? Those things could be called a "tactical retreat" as well.

I've been thinking about that myself. I guess if they don't leave the city anything's pretty much valid. What if Wolverine gets thrown out of the City, though? That shouldn't count as a retreat for Wolvie, should it?

I mean, at some point I think you have to consider that if he's thrown so far out that Cyclops is just kinda standing there shuffling his feet afterwards you gotta count it as an incapacitation. Your body doesn't have to be broken to be incapacitated, you just have to be unable to continue the fight. I'm sure Wolverine would physically be able to get up and - assuming he knew where the hell he was - try to get back in it, depending on distance I feel like that in itself could be a loss. Not counting that would be the same as not counting a KO as a win because he woke up a minute later and could have kept fighting.

#6 Edited by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Ok, well in that case I don't see either one "retreating."

#7 Edited by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

@batwatch:

Even if Woleverine can tank a lot of Scott's optic blasts, Wolverine is still getting taken further out of his attack range, and Scott probably could hit him with multiple shots in a row for the KO if he was serious about taking the victory.

Cyclops knocking Wolverine backwards is actually an advantage for Wolverine. Not only does it give Wolverine more breathing room to try find cover to navigate through or to utilize stealth, but farther away Wolverine is from Scott, the more time Wolverine will have to predict Cyclop's optic blasts coming through the air pressure they give off.

Well yeah, the further away Wolverine is, the less likely he is to be hit, but there's still a chance of him being hit. If Wolverine is far away from Cyclops there's literally zero chance of Cyclops being hit.

An interesting aspect to consider is "how much of a retreat is allowed before it triggers the tactical retreat loss?" Say Wolverine get blasted into a building or something. Now he's got distance and, conveniently, he's broken line of sight and now has cover. Cyclops' best tactical move here would obviously not be to walk over to the hole in the wall and stick his head in looking for Wolverine - it would be to move to a location that is as far removed from any shadows or walls or etcetera as possible so he can see any attack coming. So how far is he allowed to go before it's a "tactical retreat" loss? Also, how long is Wolverine allowed to sit in cover and heal/sneak around before he is credited with a loss? Those things could be called a "tactical retreat" as well.

#8 Posted by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Yeah you're right about the skyscrapers. But 1), I don't really think that would be a tactic Cyclops would want to use if he could avoid it, 2) The original post doesn't say anything about being between a bunch of 60 story skyscrapers, or which specific city we're in, or which part of which city - they could just as easily be around 3-4 story buildings which would make much less of a mess, 3) just because a chunk breaks off a building doesn't mean the building will crumble - especially if it's a huge steel framed skyscraper - but a small chunk of building still weighs many tons.

Again, I don't think Scott would see Wolverine and just go "whelp, better blow up this building here." But if he sends him flying into a building and debris comes down on top of him it's really going to slow Wolverine down.

#9 Posted by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@starwatcher: Again, it doesn't matter what makes logical sense so as long there are statements and feats supporting the idea. This is comics, most makes little sense scientifically.

Yeah, I agree it makes no sense as well, but... man if we start drawing that line we're talking about a guy who can stand still and shoot concussive force out of his eyes strong enough to launch a however many ton sentinel through the air. Why does he not fly backwards for 2 miles?

Even more off-topic, well kind of, I've always wondered about Wolverine's eyes as a weakness. I know that his brain can regrow just like the rest of him, but say, for example, he gets shot in the eye. If we're talking a cyclops blast, that's a good chunk of brain that just got obliterated. And will the shot ricochet around inside his skull since it can't break out the other side? Because that could kill him. And if it doesn't kill him, does Wolverine now have shards of skull floating around inside his brain after it grows back (chipped off from the inside before it touches the adamantium, because that would drive him insane?

#10 Posted by munkieKONG (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Yeah, if Scott tries to drop a building on Logan when he's already melee distance then he'll kill himself, definitely. The reason the building thing is a likely result is that Wolverine isn't rooted to the ground. If he gets tagged with a solid blast, he's gonna fly backwards increasing the distance between the two and leaving Cyclops far away from whatever structure comes crashing down on Wolverine.