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Yep, Vs Battle and youtube powerscaling has ruined everything.

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#5  Edited By JermaineKoloch

@dogsrus: personally i don't think that's enough tbh

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#6  Edited By JermaineKoloch

@dogsrus: can you show me a feat of Goku interacting with 11D ? That's one of his attacks, hitting at all angles.

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#7  Edited By JermaineKoloch

@dogsrus: Goku never interacted with 11th dimensional space

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#8  Edited By JermaineKoloch

@seventhmoon: Because Goku can't interact with him, and STTGL has the ap to kill/one shot so it's irrelevant, his size alone means he can just step on Goku

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@seventhmoon: no one is even arguing about entire spatial dimensions being destroyed. The person i replied to was referring to the universe inside of the higher dimensions being destroyed, and just universes destruction wouldn't collapse reality

Also energy has only 3 dimensions in DB, and it doesn't matter, Simon in GL has the feats, he has universal/multiversal feats, can also can interact with 3D beings. You said STTGL lacked the ap to harm him, read the comments over

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@seventhmoon said:

Dimensions cannot exist independent of lower ones that comprise them. We can't physically interact with only 2-D things, but they exist in some capacity simply due to the fact that the third dimension exists.

You're confused

Lower dimensional universes can exist inside of a higher dimensional structures, because the lower space doesn't extend into superspace and isn't 11D. Its a space which has its own dimensionality, but it's lower so it's inside of the bulk. Spaces can be embedded in spaces mathmatically. They can be distinct spaces that coexist. Destroying a 3D universe inside a superspace doesn't remove the entire 3rd dimension of reality because the membrane has it's own boundries. I think that's whats stumping you up. Other membranes can be 3D and still exist independently of the destroyed plane existing in a juxtaposition.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Low-dimensional-data-embedded-in-a-higher-dimensional-structure_fig2_228567023

https://www.einstein-online.info/en/spotlight/embeddedworld/

Also can you cite your source that even removing a spatial dimension mathmatically destroys all of reality ? Sounds like something you made up. I'm not arguing against it because that's not my stance, but I just want to know

This isn't a counter to my argument. It doesn't matter how many higher dimensions there are. It's all just adding more directions. Directions that are contingent upon the lesser dimensions.

The dimensions the direction takes place needs to be specified. It is absolutely a counter argument. You said adding vectors and directions = higher dimension. This is false. Adding directions doesn't increase dimensions, because you can add more directions without increasing the dimensions, same with vectors Increase of dimensions means adding more freedom to a vector space. The vector itself can only move in the dimensionality of the space no matter how many vectors you add. They are not the same.

I'm aware energy projected falls under vectors, as I pointed out with Goku's energy projection having vectors. My main point about energy in its default state not caring about higher dimensions is that higher dimensions don't have some superior form of energy, nor more of it. It doesn't grant you more power. That's all.

Energy has dimensions. Energy needs to be higher dimensional in nature to affect higher dimensions. Scalar Quantities that are physical posses dimensions. You're going to argue length and area don't care about dimensions ? because thats what your scan indicates. Dimensionality is not ap related, we know.

Being "their own" dimension doesn't mean anything. The third dimension is its "own" dimension, but it's still comprised of lesser ones. If higher dimensions aren't extensions of lower ones, then we aren't talking about geometric dimensions at all anymore, as they are contingent on lower dimensions by pure necessity.

False equivalence. The 3rd dimension in reality is not it's own space or it's own structure. It's not its own space, it's just a measurement of space. Membranes are described as such, which is why actions that occur inside of lower dimensional membranes do not affect the entire bulk. Such embedded spacetimes can be mathmatically described, that's what Brane Cosmology is.

My point is that being higher-dimensional does not grant a power level. It doesn't "bypass durability" either. And I don't see why Goku can't just hit STTGL on a 3-D level. The fact others can see them already tells us they exist on some 3-D level as well.

How would a sword 2D in nature damage you if it only attacks in 2 dimensions and it's attack has 0 thickness in comparison to you ? It wouldn't. It wouldn't be able to interact with you. There are multiple sources I can provide that lower dimensional objects cannot influence with higher dimensions. This is basic stuff. STTGL could destroy Gokus reality while being unaffected, or attack him in the past present and future.

Where's Gokus Ap advantage