Do I have to give a name?

Simple enough. If there's anything people in other countries do which are generally not done in yours, but you would like to see, then post them here. I'm just curious what kinds of answers people might post.

This could be cultural, political or even a style of entertainment or cookery. It's very much open to interpretation really.

For myself, I live in England and wish we had more automatic cars like America. I'm sure it would make driving easier for a lot of people and cause less accidents.

@those_eyes: Damn man. If it was a white guy writing that it would make me angry, but a black guy writing it makes me sad.

The woman who wrote that topic post is both incorrect and a f***%#g disgrace.

I wouldn't feel self conscious at all from what she said. What she wrote is infuriating, disgusting and probably stems from sheer ignorance.

But even in the thread alone, there were numerous posts that proved what she said to be prejudiced and bigoted BS.

It's true to say that everyone's got different preferences on what makes someone attractive. But her personality makes her damned ugly in my view.

@HeroUp2112:

"Don't let other people make you feel bad, self conscious, or bad about yourself. Be you, be confident, deal with whatever shit life throws at you, and YOU decide how to deal with it, you have to look at YOU in the mirror. The other people who criticize you won't be looking back at you."

/golfclap.

Alcohol and availability certainly help. 0_o

@hyiena:

Once the youngest is over 30 don't really think it matters anymore.

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This.

For me, she was 29 and I was 25.

#4 Posted by just_banter (4199 posts) - 29 seconds ago - Show Bio

If he got beaten up because he was "gay" and the aggressors hate gay people, then yeah. However, I don't like using term in the first place, a crime is a crime, that's all there is to it.

Agreed.

@jnr6lil: the only way people won't be able to understand each other is by ceasing to communicate. I didn't say it doesn't require empathy and even imagination. But if people stonewall each other, than even those qualities will not be enough.

As far as describing my experience with black people. Well bro like I've said all along that defeats the object. All I'll say is I've known many assholes, and many wonderful people. Some were black, some were white. Some were neither. But If I think of one of the ppl I don't like the reason I don't like them is never their colour. If you find that hard to believe then I'm afraid I just don't care anymore.

As far as the books I've read, again seems slightly off point to me but sure. I did a sociology a-level focused on Immigration from the West Indies throughout the 50's and 60's I received an A* for my work.

My ex was South African so she had me reading a bunch of stuff on apartheid including Mandelas autobiography. I also read a variety of stuff on the holocaust. And the catholic Protestant violence in Ireland, religion rather than race. But still the same root causes.

As far as American literature. Nothing from this century. I read diary of a slave girl and diary of an ex coloured man when I first got my kindle. But the latter was a novel rather than a real life account and the former is 150 years out of date. With that said I have watched many program's and read many articles on various elements of race.

What I would suggest, if you wish to show you're knowledge, is that you actually show your knowledge. If the Malcolm x autobiography makes a point that debunks someone else's, then raise that point. Just saying "you're wrong, I should know coz I read Malcolm x's autobiography" comes across as pea-cocking rather than as a meaningful dialogue.

The points you make around the school system certainly sound valid. And not too dissimilar from the two-tier system we have here (based on post/zip code rather than race.) I don't know enough about American schools to disagree so will take what you say at face value. If you were to start telling me about English, Scottish or Nigerian schools, which I do have first hand knowledge, then we may be In disagreement again. That's the difference over the last couple of pages.

We can all work hard and still fail. That's not exclusive to black people and all I'm saying is if a person never questions their failures beyond the level of "I never stood a chance" then they'll never get to a better place. And that's from a chronic underachiever.

We all are descended from Africa, or Asia depending which theory is correct. However (now I'm generalising) I have quite literally never come across a Jamaican who would consider themselves African anymore than I have a Scotsman who would call themselves welsh. Honestly it comes up a lot, the guys I know are quite violently opposed to the suggestion and would be insulted by it.

I just noticed you added a few points to your last post. Nvr heard of raven, but yea that is stupid. I'm not English instead of white, I'm both. You're not American instead of black. Your both. So is she.

But I still hold that it's only a defining aspect of who you are if you let it be.

Okay well I think perhaps you're at a disadvantage then. If your interactions are with 90% black people, the by extension less than 10% of the people you know are white (or anything else) that doesn't leave you with a very broad group to compare.

Myself I live in West London, born to Irish and English parents. Am In a Nigerians house as I type this on my phone and where I live no group has more than a 20% saturation. I suspect Me going to buy milk gives me more opportunity to mingle with different groups than going to work might for you.

This is long dude. I think we were right 2 pages back when we agreed to disagree. . .

We think differently. I don't think you're racist but question some of your thought processes. You clearly question some of mine too. But I doubt you really Think I'm racist unless you haven't been paying attention. Wanna call it a day?

@jnr6lil:

At this point just realized your extremely dense. It's futile explaining to a white man from London what it means to be a black man in Ameroca as he would never understand unless he was one himself.

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You assume people won't be able to understand you without you even trying to explain your point of view. You assume this because they're a different colour. Like It or not, that is a highly prejudiced view.

And I haven't told you a thing about America. I've spoken about other parts of the world and ASKED about America, you've refused to answer those questions and feigned integral knowledge of the thought processes of every other black person in the world

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@jnr6lil

But I forgot this was the Race Thread where white posters feel they are experts on black people just because they're white and have a few black friends.

As If I don't know more about being black by actually being black, growing up around AAs and Nigerians and actually having to deal with racism throughout my life let alone the time I spend reading articles and books such as the New Jim Crow, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, American Apartheid, etc

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You make (incorrect) assumptions about who I grew up with, who I associate with, what I've read, what I've studied. Basically jus a whole bunch of assumption based on my colour and location. That again is due to your prejudice.

Additionally you made a comment on the other page where you stated that "I say that as someone who has white friends."

Hypocrite.

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@jnr6lil

I can already tell that any black that has grievances with their conditions in America it's considered self poty and whining to you and that blacks can succeed if they just pull up their bootstraps.

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It sounds like self pity when you repeatedly fail to give a single example of how society is holding you back, but continue to insist that it is. Give me an example I can disagree with before telling me I definitely will. And yes racism is real. So is self pity.

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And being black does link you with every black person. It's called Pan Africanism.

Yeah, tell a Jamaican they're African. That always goes down well.

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@jnr6lil

A) Mentioning their few token black people that they know as examples of success so therefore their must be no systemic oppression if a few made it.

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I know many successful and unsuccessful people from many ethnicities. None on them made it through sitting on their backsides feeling sorry for themselves. Hence my point that success is more dependant on hard work than colour. That does not mean I don't think prejudice exists, or nepotism or sexism. Buy they are not the be all and end all.

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@jnr6lil

B) Dismiss anything that comes from one of the few black posters here about being black only because it hurts their feelings or accused them of being racist when not only am I black but know more blacks from all walks of life than more of this website.

Yes, like it or not declaring that an entire group I people does something solely because they're a certain colour. Yes that is racism.

Again, you have no way of knowing if you know more black people than I do. It's just more of your prejudice BS.

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@jnr6lil

C) Use the term non-white which basically means minorities that aren't black in their context.

No. It means non white, including black. It's easier than typing out every subgroup of people. There are after all more than 2 skin tones, you know?

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No. People saying something racist happened are not necessarily wrong. But If you ask them what happened And all they can say is you wouldn't understand coz I'm black and you're not. Well, that person is either a poor communicator, or they're talking s**t.

Of course you could prove me completely wrong by telling me all about the specific institutionalised racism you've experienced.

Otherwise this conversations over. As it stands right now, you have no credibility, not due to your colour. But due to the bias and small-mindedness you have shown.