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@kidolio said:

Edit: I just searched it up so it kinda is considered canon emphasis on kinda so I’ll agree with you Nolan Batman wins

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@kidolio: Shattering concrete like glass should do it.

And I value authorial intent, and thus consider Gotham Knight to be set in the Nolanverse. He had a bunch of amazing speed feats there, such as moving almost as fast as bullets, punching bullets out of the air, looking like a blur, etc.

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@thatoneguy887: Nolan Bruce took punches from Bane. He isn't getting one-shotted. And Arkham Bruce would also have to deal with his counterpart's vastly superior speed.

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@devils_advocate: cuz they're blatantly inconsistent with the stuff that happens in the movies...why else?

@devils_advocate: He preforms feats that are massively inconsistent with his overall stats in the films. Punching bullets out of the air isn't something he can do or has done anywhere else, lol

First, Gotham Knight was confirmed to be canon. If you wish to argue inconsistency, that's perfectly fine, but you would have to look at feats case by case.

Second, you need actual counter-evidence. If a character performs a feat, you cannot argue it to be inconsistent if he never had the chance to perform it again. You would need examples of Bruce failing to perform feats not nearly as impressive as what he did in Gotham Knight, and those examples must outnumber the Gotham Knight showings.

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@arkhamasylum3: Not including Gotham Knights feats I don't honestly see how you can make an argument for them being more skilled but eh...

Also, Bucky had a knife facing Cap, and he used strength to catch the blade and then punch him. He's a good bit faster as well

Why not include half of Batman's showings?

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@_kingoflatveria: I obviously agree with you about Cap one-shotting them, but only if his attacks land, which is unlikely.

yea...no. Need reasons

  1. Numbers advantage
  2. Speed advantage
  3. Reach advantage

With the ability to hurt him, how can the team lose this?

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@devils_advocate said:
@arkhamasylum3 said:

One shotting is a bit far but yeah they lose badly here. No real way of putting Steve down.

Sword.

You do realise how strong Steve's shield is right?

And how thin those blades are?

They'll break against his shield lol.

What shield?

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Anyone confident enough in Cap's victory to do a short CaV? Bruce can be enough, otherwise same conditions.

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One shotting is a bit far but yeah they lose badly here. No real way of putting Steve down.

Sword.