How powerful is Dceu Supes?

MoS, BvS - large town/small city level

JL - city or large city level, still below mountain level

What is Themyscira classified as?

Zeus created the island near death.

Zeus fights with steppy

Diana fights Steppy

Clark is more powerful than Diana

reality warping != actual strength

Hmm so how powerful do you think he is🤔🤔

@darkthunder: zeus has the capability to create something that large in a dying state. Besides why reality warping and not simply matter manipulation? Reality warping implies time/ space shenanigans imo.

city level I'd guess

so? Even if its matter manipulation, its not in clarks powerset so the scaling doesn't work here

@darkthunder: sure it does because he had the strength to create said island. That means he could also destroy said island and if Steppy clashed with Zeus AND ares, you get the idea. I'm not into breaking feats down like that. Too complicated and you end up chasing your tail. Just factor in the amount of energy needed to create Themyscira in a near-death and rushed state, whatever that is. That would be Zeus' output and yes I think they scale.

nuh. Zeus' reality or matter manipulation cannot be translated to physical strength. It just doesn't make sense. We also do not know whether zeus can destroy an island, especially with his physical strength

20k Tonner( lifting)

City Block++(full powered bullrush)

City-Block+(regular bullrush)

Multi Building+ to City block(punches)

Multi-City Block++ Durability(blunt force) ko

Small Town Durability(energy)

Travel Speed Massively hypersonic+

Combat speed Massively Hypersonic

Overall i'd say he's Multi City Block level

Large city level, and he probably could destroy a country too. He wouldn't one-shot it, but he could do some serious damage.

@darkthunder: it translates to overall power

Room buster at best

City level.

Building level at best.

City level durability

city block to multi city block level AP/DC

whatever level it takes to move tectonic plates. That’s still a dumb feat to me. There is no way that should stop an earthquake. ( yes I know shifting tectonic plates itself is impossible but there is a limit to suspension of disbelief) that would make an earthquake worse.

Oh grwt. You accuses me of CW wank meanwhile you go all out with NLFs.

20k? Lowball. Massive lowball. He's comfortably in the 100k tonner category

HOW? Its a feat for Zeus' stamina or capacity, it cannot translate to physical strength

If supes was a comic book character or an anime character just one of his feats would earn him the spot in country buster.

Destroys the world engine. Admittedly unquantifiable but even low balked should be in small city large town range.

Destroys a decent portion of a mountain by accidentally flying into it.

Survives/resurrects after being nuked

Etc

How?

Small city at best, but only in durability.

Yet there are a few objectionable things imo

Yet there are a few objectionable things imo

a] Steppenwolf in flashback =/= Steppenwolf in recent time

b] Ares's flashbacks don't scale that way

c] Zeus only scales respective to ^

When has he lifted anywhere near that weight

His best feat is lifting the building in JL and moving at decent speeds with it overhead, said building weighs 5000 tons(give or take a few hundred tons) and the super strength destricption that states he can lift thousands of tons over and over without getting tired, he does'nt have a single feat that puts him anywhere close to a 100k tons

@yunobogoronhero: Don't you think CW Supergirl is country level?

@heatforce:

Hinds said he was old and tired.

Ares gained power thru conflict which reorients his scaling etc

Only notable thing the trident outside of the combat applicability issues doesn't scale either, Atlan never tapped into its power to that extent until that point

^^its starting

Think she is planet level.. Stop lowball what the guy/girl thinks of CW Supergirl..

Where did you get the 5000 ton number from?

Well if AA Thor is Large Planet because of tanking Spectrum blast ( but who _ _ _ _ _ _ _ cares about context where Billy tried his best to control the prism instead of letting Prism posessing him )

MCU Thanos with 6 gems to be casually universal since snap roasted him and only clapped half of living beings in finite cosmos ( what is only Large Planet lvl power ) with continent lighting up energy toward user aka at least building lvl power.

Just like constant assumptions with 0 context of Eson, IG etc.

Back to topic:

Still below AA high tiers, DCAU high tiers, CW high tiers

I used the Khrushevka model for square footage and got something above 3000k tons, can't remember the value, it would be more if it was stone/brick but it's a panel so RIP.

@nwname solos tho

Steppenwolf younger and less exhausted >

Ares was near death as well, Zeus nearly killed him with that blast, crippled him for millenia, etc, but still Steppenwolf could not stand against all the gods like Ares did, and Ares definitely gained power between the two flashbacks due to Wargod stuff etc

I mean yes but scaling is contingent on how that energy is utilized, think of what Mother Box would have to say tut tut

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@heatforce said:

@baalhaddad said:

@rajjarsalt said:

@darkthunder said:

@baalhaddad said:

20k Tonner( lifting)

City Block++(full powered bullrush)

City-Block+(regular bullrush)

Multi Building+ to City block(punches)

Multi-City Block++ Durability(blunt force) ko

Small Town Durability(energy)

Travel Speed Massively hypersonic+

Combat speed Massively Hypersonic

Overall i'd say he's Multi City Block level

20k? Lowball. Massive lowball. He's comfortably in the 100k tonner category

When has he lifted anywhere near that weight

His best feat is lifting the building in JL and moving at decent speeds with it overhead, said building weighs 5000 tons(give or take a few hundred tons) and the super strength destricption that states he can lift thousands of tons over and over without getting tired, he does'nt have a single feat that puts him anywhere close to a 100k tons

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@rajjarsalt: thanks for the MoS article based on a BvS feat 🤷‍♂️

Mcu wankers lie, lowball and travel in packs

Jorel tells his son to keep testing your limits

( muscles, skin, senses)

Daily planet is a pulizter prize winning newspaper that refused to run lois alien story because she had no proof

Lex who greatly studied superman refrences the tectonic plate feat

We dont know supermans limit

But its above mcu easily

Lulz the shock wave of his scream appears to be muticontinental or planetary in range so I imagine it would be less than or equal to krakatoa in power (300 dB in BvS m i rite 😏). It even traveled through the oceans depths to awaken the motherbox.

@byondeon: I was conparing it to other buildings of similar size

@rajjarsalt: Where did you find the weight of the building?

Not the weight directly, but a paper on the construction of that specific model of apartment Clark is lifting (Soviet khrushevka) and there were some metrics for mass per unit area

@rajjarsalt: Not to annoy but what size did you get? Length/Width/Height

IIRC a scaling shot was done to calc some stuff to supplement these dimensions, for maximum accuracy for like windows, balconies, etc

Here's the mass intensive stuff.

@rajjarsalt: What's the official number you got? I got 3785 tons