Zatanna vs Magik
The JLA's Zatanna
versus
The X-Men's Magik
the battle takes place in limbo..
Zatanna was mentioned to be the JLA's most powerful member..
Magik is the Sorceress Supreme of the Limbo Dimension..
who do you guys think would win this battle?
" @Zoom said:" Zatanna isn't the JLA's most powerful member. She's like their...9th most powerful member. "You're talking current or general? "
General, not counting very short lived members or JLI or JLE or any of that. At any given time, she's probably been as high as the 3rd most powerful member.
Currently, she is the 4th strongest after Green Lantern, Red Tornado and Firestorm assuming Firestorm is still around after the Blackest Night.
I guess if you went all time, she's weaker than Superman, Wonder Woman, three Green Lanterns, two Flashes, two Firestorms, the Red Tornado. 11th most powerful off the top of my head.
Of course, I don't think she could take the Atom or even Green Arrow/Batman on a good day but she does have more raw power.
if i'm not mistaken. Green arrow once stated that Zatanna was the most powerful member of the Justice League. Plus the idea that of all the magicians and sorcerers on the planet, the JLA always go to Zatanna when they need magical assistance.. oh yah, Magik's Soulsword can destroy mystical beings right? can it kill Zatanna who's a Homo Magi?
" if i'm not mistaken. Green arrow once stated that Zatanna was the most powerful member of the Justice League. Plus the idea that of all the magicians and sorcerers on the planet, the JLA always go to Zatanna when they need magical assistance.. oh yah, Magik's Soulsword can destroy mystical beings right? can it kill Zatanna who's a Homo Magi? "Yes, yes it could. It is specifically stated as physically being useless, but being a magic killer. If she stabs you or I with it, nothing. If she stabs a demon, sorcerer, or strangely enough Legion's personalities and other psionic beings...that is all she wrote. Now if she could manage to stab Zatanna, that remains to be seen. But the soulsword has always done what it is said to do. And that is kill magic. It kills things imbued with magic, magic spells themselves, and mystical beings.
" @lord_oraculous016 said:" if i'm not mistaken. Green arrow once stated that Zatanna was the most powerful member of the Justice League. Plus the idea that of all the magicians and sorcerers on the planet, the JLA always go to Zatanna when they need magical assistance.. oh yah, Magik's Soulsword can destroy mystical beings right? can it kill Zatanna who's a Homo Magi? "Yes, yes it could. It is specifically stated as physically being useless, but being a magic killer. If she stabs you or I with it, nothing. If she stabs a demon, sorcerer, or strangely enough Legion's personalities and other psionic beings...that is all she wrote. Now if she could manage to stab Zatanna, that remains to be seen. But the soulsword has always done what it is said to do. And that is kill magic. It kills things imbued with magic, magic spells themselves, and mystical beings. "
so now, since Zatanna is a Homo Magi (Half Human, Half Mystic Being or something), that means if she is stabed by the soulsword, it would kill her myctic part or herself in general? if its only her magical side, then she will lose all the powers right?
what is the battle takes place on Earth? will it change the outcome of the battle since Magik is weaker on Earth Dimension right?
"I don't think it's settled one way or another. But being on Earth doesn't affect the soulsword in the least. It only affects the rest of her magic.what is the battle takes place on Earth? will it change the outcome of the battle since Magik is weaker on Earth Dimension right?
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" @lord_oraculous016 said:"I don't think it's settled one way or another. But being on Earth doesn't affect the soulsword in the least. It only affects the rest of her magic. "what is the battle takes place on Earth? will it change the outcome of the battle since Magik is weaker on Earth Dimension right?
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i see.. thanks.. so Illyana Rasputina owns Zatanna Zatara.. sheeesh boy, do they have complicated names.. =P
" @AtPhantom said:Red Tornado for real? What's that about?" @Zoom said:General, not counting very short lived members or JLI or JLE or any of that. At any given time, she's probably been as high as the 3rd most powerful member. Currently, she is the 4th strongest after Green Lantern, Red Tornado and Firestorm assuming Firestorm is still around after the Blackest Night. "" Zatanna isn't the JLA's most powerful member. She's like their...9th most powerful member. "You're talking current or general? "
What if Zatanna doesn't even know what a soulsword is?"What is Zatanna says "enogeb drowsluos" at the start of the fight? "
And what makes you think she's powerful enough to make it disappear even if she did know what to say?
@Buckshot said:
Oh yeah. He's far faster, stronger and more durable than her. He can suck the air out of her lungs or rip the skin off her bones if he wanted to."Red Tornado for real? What's that about? "
There's a reason that Ivo sent the Tornado to destroy the entire league. There's a reason the anti monitor intended to use him to reshape earth. The guy is massively powerful.
@lord_oraculous016
said:"if i'm not mistaken. Green arrow once stated that Zatanna was the most powerful member of the Justice League. Plus the idea that of all the magicians and sorcerers on the planet, the JLA always go to Zatanna when they need magical assistance.. oh yah, Magik's Soulsword can destroy mystical beings right? can it kill Zatanna who's a Homo Magi? "
Well Green Arrow is a moron. ;) And yeah, the soulsword will kill Zatana rather easily.
" What is Zatanna says "enogeb drowsluos" at the start of the fight? "It probably wouldn't work considering that most spells have no effect on it. But you never know.
Like Zoom says, she'd have to know what it is and have to be powerful enough to effect it. And no Magik wouldn't brag about it. She'd walk up and probably stab her and then walk away. She's not known for messing around.
" This has been done to death and Zatanna stands zero chance. All spells and her life will be ended by the soulsword. "exactly, worse if they teleport to limbo Magic gets amped and beats zatana senseless
" magic power wont decide this, it really comes down to a melee... and one of them is wearing a magic soul sword and the other is wearing a top hat.This made me fall out of my chair. XD
i don't know what version of rock-paper-scissors you're playing, but magic soul sword beats top hat every time. "
" This has been done to death and Zatanna stands zero chance. All spells and her life will be ended by the soulsword. "When will people learn? :D
Magik.
Much better physicals, more ruthless can cancel and tank magical attacks. Not only is she a mage, she's a Warlord/Hell Lord and much better fighter. She tele-blitzes Z.
depowered and tortured she still tanks Amora's spell meant to kill her.
As a 7 year old girl first creates the Soul Sword and shatters the enchantments of a Hell Lord with absolute control of his realm. (she didn't even need to swing her sword)
They r in Limbo, it won't be a fight.. Zatanna stands a chance in a neutral zone.. and none of her spells would work on Magik due to her Soul Sword. It can nullify any magic..
Magik was always a support character and never got any attention from the writers like Wanda, Zatanna etc did...
Zatanna snaps Magik's neck
She has literally never done that to anyone lol.
In Limbo, Magik wins. Outside of Limbo, Zatanna wins.
@geekryan: Zantanna loses both rounds, have you been paying attention to the debate? This has also been done before with no victory for Zatanna.
@geekryan: Zantanna loses both rounds, have you been paying attention to the debate? This has also been done before with no victory for Zatanna.
Nothing presented has convinced me that Magik would win.
you left the fight unfair by letting the arena be in limbo and this is kind of silly, because you know that magik magic increases dramatically there and put the fight in that scenario. even though she is the most powerful member of the justice league, according to archer, she still has weaknesses and no durability (even more in enemy territory). it looks like you want magik to win.
if the battle was on earth, and it would have a greater chance and could even win, but as you put the battle in a place that is above it for her to lose, she would lose. she was shown to do super fast spells and even 'cheat' a user who had a fairy on her sword to get her to be manipulated by time (which she demonstrated to get practice with the spell quickly)
Magik can abosolute win no problem, especially since OP say they in Limbo that give magik advantage.
But who say Zatanna gots to play fair/stupid and stay in Limbo?
Since Zatanna can freeze time
and easy travel through dimensions like here when she no problem follow Klarion The Witch Boy through many dimensions
don't see why Zee can't just freeze time than go to another dimension away from Limbo to a battlefield more benefit Zatanna
Then I think it anybody fight to win
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