TMNT vs Talon (William Cobb)

Teenage mutant ninja turtles vs William Cobb. The Court of Owls has sentenced the TMNT to death!!!

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battle takes place in the streets of Gotham, several places with dark shadows.

Cobb has the element of surprise.

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who wins?

Turtles win easily

@alakemega123: uh, how?

Turtles

@clark_el: well IIRC batman beat Cobb and the turtles can beat batman pretty easily so they win. They are stronger faster and better fighters than Cobb, there teamwork is also amazing.

@alakemega123: I'd say Batman is above the turtles. I'd put him around Splinter or Shredder level, especially with all his training and gadgets.

@clark_el: well unless we are talking about the turtles currently on tv, they have surpassed shredder and splinter also most people on the vine consider them above batman level

@alakemega123: I think Gregg Katzmandid a "Does Batman always win", on it, and they concluded that Batman wins so...

Well Cobb did stomp Nightwing whom I'd consider around the turtles' level even as a collective..I think his regen and lethality will be too much for them.

@clark_el: that battle was over a year ago though. The turtles have improved and have gotten more feats since then.

I'm thinking this.

TMNT wins.

Fan Votes is just that, a popularity contest :). the Mirage turtles would murder Batman as well the 2000s show. The current IDW can swing either way.

Also in a fan voted Deadpool vs TMNT thread, the turtles tied with him! Thats was a long time ago too :)

Any 2 Turtles can take him IMO.

Turtles.

@gojira2014 said:

@clark_el said:

@alakemega123: I think Gregg Katzman did a "Does Batman always win", on it, and they concluded that Batman wins so...

Fan Votes is just that, a popularity contest :). the Mirage turtles would murder Batman as well the 2000s show. The current IDW can swing either way.

Also in a fan voted Deadpool vs TMNT thread, the turtles tied with him! Thats was a long time ago too :)

It was Batman vs IDW turtles. And that took in consideration all of Pre new 52 Batman skill as cannon. So Batman could win. And the match was done before It became a popularity contest but It showed the opinion @k4tzm4n of the battle.

Turtles

@black_arrow: In alot of ways I think New 52>Pre 52 Batman. His suit and gadgets are a lot more high-tech and modern.

Turtles easily. Leo can solo, Raf can solo, would not be surprised if Don and Mikey would win 1 on 1 too. Why do people keep putting the whole team up against one individual?

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Talon can take this all depending. He was able to beat Nightwing and give Bruce a good fight. They're both top tiers in their verse. The turtles ain't no slouches, but they're not Batman level either.

Current IDW: Talon a small majority
Mirage: Turtles a majority
2002ish cartoon: Turtles definitely
2013ish cartoon: Talon a majority, but I haven't finished that one so could be wrong

He’s not beating any 2 of the IDW turtles, let alone all 4. They’ve come a long way since issue 20 (when Katz made those battles mentioned above), they are 100+ issues and have clearly gotten better feats and have leveled up in skill in their universe.